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Subject: Halo: Combat Evolved Known Botters List
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Most of the PC issues posted here are the result of PEBKAC.

I've been hearing about bots in Halo Custom Edition.

I thought there weren't any bots for it, and the ones for regular Halo crashed it.

So why am I hearing mention of bots in Halo CE?

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  • 07.06.2008 7:05 AM PDT
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Posted by: SP86
Why would I say something that obviously pissed you off, then get all worked up over your reply?

Because you're a troll, for all your vapid assurances that nothing matters, you're in a forum, professing that nothing matters, regarding a game you claim is meaningless.

Now either your life really is that shallow and hollow that you've turned to trolling forums, or you're being completely disingenuous.

In either event you should STFU.


If I'm a troll, ban me.

I never said nothing matters, I only said worrying about a problem that can't be solved is meaningless. You know nothing of my life so your claim that it is shallow and hollow is just as meaningless as worrying about cheaters in a video game. And if I am a troll, I'm the most long lived troll this forum has ever seen. Don't get your britches in a knot because you don't like my opinions. As long as I don't violate the forum rules I can post whatever the hell I want and there isn't much you can do about it except reply in your own vapid, disingenuous way.

  • 07.06.2008 8:31 AM PDT
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You're right, there's nothing I can do about you, its that sort of charity that allows trolls like you to operate. Botters on the other hand can be banned, their hashes spread around so your insistence that nothing can be done is patently false.

Oh, and if you get a moment page through your English to troll dictionary and look up inference.

  • 07.06.2008 9:17 AM PDT
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I invented the English to troll dictionary. Just like I invented the moon, chicken wings, and gravy.

BTW how does spreading around hash codes solve the problem? Unless every single person who runs a server in this game uses every single hash code that you and everyone else throws out on the internet. I doubt that'll ever happen. Unless Bungie or Gearbox decide to come out with another patch to specifically fix the problem. And I doubt that'll happen either.

You're such a funny guy, do you do stand up?

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  • 07.06.2008 9:20 AM PDT
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Sending botters hash codes to the servers you play in keeps said botters out of those servers, ergo the botting problem is significantly diminished.

And now a bit about human psychology, a rapid fire response like that tells me I've got you agitated, so I hit it pretty close to the mark didn't I?

  • 07.06.2008 11:10 AM PDT
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No not really, and pretending to know a bit about human psychology doesn't mean you're able to diagnose my emotional state through the internet Mr. Freud.

Just words on a screen little dude.

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  • 07.06.2008 11:43 AM PDT
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RP, bot? I have been in this clan for 2+ years I know what goes down. Botting, no. Botters we have had in our clan are banned or either use bots in private games as jokes. We don't bot. I don't know how you're getting your 'statistics' for this but I'm pretty sure you just threw some names out. Zilla, he doesn't bot. Atrox posted this thread on our forums and many members laughed at the claim. He doesn't bot. I am in the clan as -=>RP<=- Hydra on the forums and RP-Hydra on Halo PC. BD does not bot, and the clan name is Black Dragons, we aren't allies or anything but some of the members are close.

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  • 07.06.2008 11:44 AM PDT
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No list of hash codes will ever be accurate. I've been banned from many servers because they think I bot, they even claim to sightjack me. Thats what 10 sens and actually aiming gets for me. I play until I can only join a few decent servers, then I get a new cd key. I'm on my fourth...So I believe most the names on most lists of "botters" aren't really botters at all, unless they have recorded sj footage like on the knfr forums and even then, they don't have many hash codes, if any, listed, just names, so it really doesn't help.

Here is what you do: Play to have fun. If you are no longer having fun, go to a different server or stop playing the game. Let the kids bot, it really isn't harmful, all it will get them is an empty server to play in and whatever joy they get from cheating in a game.

  • 07.06.2008 12:22 PM PDT
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Posted by: new420
No list of hash codes will ever be accurate. I've been banned from many servers because they think I bot, they even claim to sightjack me. Thats what 10 sens and actually aiming gets for me. I play until I can only join a few decent servers, then I get a new cd key. I'm on my fourth...So I believe most the names on most lists of "botters" aren't really botters at all, unless they have recorded sj footage like on the knfr forums and even then, they don't have many hash codes, if any, listed, just names, so it really doesn't help.

Here is what you do: Play to have fun. If you are no longer having fun, go to a different server or stop playing the game. Let the kids bot, it really isn't harmful, all it will get them is an empty server to play in and whatever joy they get from cheating in a game.


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  • 07.06.2008 12:40 PM PDT
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Only because he agrees with you, I've gotta say though, typically the higher the sensitivity the worse the player.

  • 07.07.2008 4:36 AM PDT

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just want to say this some people have an game mouse like me(3200 dpi) and put there mouse speed to 10 so they can turn around and aim insanely fast.
that's still skills.
some people call me an botter cause of that but i don't even make head shots...
i know there are more people skilled like this.

so make sure the guy always makes headshots and he also uses pistole or sniper rifle as that are the real botter weapons other weapons don't work good with aimbot(like shotgun and ar)

btw shouldn't u make an ban list/hash key file so people can add this guys to there server so they are blocked.

update i found someone who meight be boting: np ferarix or something like that.


btw: wasn't there an program that blocked aimbots? halo anti cheat or something except its not supported any more maybe we can make an program like that again.

if you know how to make an program that scans memory etc pm me and i can help u with blocking the most used aimbots.



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  • 07.07.2008 5:37 AM PDT

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That's a darn shame. I used to be in [CC] too.

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Posted by: SP86
Only because he agrees with you, I've gotta say though, typically the higher the sensitivity the worse the player.

Your logic is on par with that of a potato.

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Nah I think potatos make more sense. Though halo isn't as twitchy as other games, you don't get punished for having a high sensitivity due to its bullet magnetism. As such, I think it's a tremendous advantage.

  • 07.07.2008 9:54 AM PDT

I don't find it a problem since I play Halo PC and Custom edition for 100% fun and no competativness, unless its friends from xfire.

  • 07.07.2008 8:21 PM PDT
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I'm sure that arouses you somehow but I have neither the time nor the inclination to indulge your particular food fetishes.

The sniper rifle has zero adjust, sure twitch kids who run around with rockets benefit a whole lot from 10 sensitivity but the moment you pick up a real weapon its worthless.

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Perhaps on a small resolution, but I use 2000 dpi, sensitivity 10 on my 1024x768 17 in, and I think I'm not too bad. If you had a ball mouse I'd understand, but optical or laser mice are precise enough to let you aim at that sensitivity. Also, I don't think arguing about this will change anything, simply ask what the best players have their sensitivity set to.

  • 07.08.2008 12:17 PM PDT
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Most of the PC issues posted here are the result of PEBKAC.

I used to use sensitivity 10, but I've gotten used to 3 recently and find that a bit easier to play with.

I thought it was easier with low senstivity anyways. At least that's what it was like in Counter-Strike.

  • 07.08.2008 12:42 PM PDT
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Posted by: SP86
The sniper rifle has zero adjust, sure twitch kids who run around with rockets benefit a whole lot from 10 sensitivity but the moment you pick up a real weapon its worthless.

People don't ban me from occasionally using rockets or frg, they ban me for killing them fast with pistol and sniper consistently. Say what you want, but I think my getting banned from a server almost every time I play speaks for itself.

edit: I almost never record, but I tried out Wegame in a 1v1 I did a while ago. Here's one of my 3sks that I got. http://files.filefront.com/3skwmv/;10979141;/fileinfo.html My other 3sks were strafe 3sks which are easy to do.

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Posted by: SP86
I'm sure that arouses you somehow but I have neither the time nor the inclination to indulge your particular food fetishes.
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I have a food fetish, I like to eat it.

My sensitivity is 9 and I do just fine. Just because a high sensitivity doesn't work for you doesn't mean it won't work for someone else.

  • 07.08.2008 4:43 PM PDT
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All this talk about high dpi mice and 10 sensitivity really doesn't mean much. If you have skill, then it doesn't matter what type of mouse you use (track-ball, optical, or laser), you will still be able to get kills. Sure "better" mice will allow you to be more accurate, but not enough to turn a bad player into a great one over night.
Those who think that spining around really fast is an aimbot are inexperenced at what an aimbot really is. While using sightjacker, someone who spins around and gets a hs might be called a botter. But truth be told, that person might not be botting.
You have to be experenced to use sightjacker correctly. It might be easy to spot someone locking onto others throught walls/hills but its alot harder to do it with someone who is trying to hide it.
Aimbots have a mechanical nature to them that people do not. When a person tracks a target in sj, its generally in a smooth motion. Aimbots on the other hand, genearlly tend to have a stutter to them while viewing through sj. Kinda like a robotic arm with bad motors.
But like said, the observations above are generalizations that are neither aimbot or human specific. It takes time to learn what is an aimbot and what isn't. When banning someone for botting, I suggest that you record lots of evidence. If the person is locking on through hills, you don't need that much. But if the person is being smart with it, you will need lots of footage that will probably have to be examined multiple times by several different people before you can come to a proper conclusion. (Thats what I do anyways).

Somethings I wanted to comment on:

NC Gijs007:"wasn't there an program that blocked aimbots?" -- Yes there have been several programs that have attempted to stop cheating in halo such as halobuster and haloanticheat. Both programs ran similar to punkbuster and required constant updating in order to stay ahead of cheaters. While each failed for specific reasons, one reason that they weren't widely accepted was due to each client having to install it (There really is no viable way to make a server side anti-cheat software with halo due to the way the game works) and most ppl simply didn't use it.

Pet0sh:"simply ask what the best players have their sensitivity set to" -- I use a Razer Copperhead running @ 800dpi. My Halo runs in 800x600 (for rec reasons) on a 17in LCD with mouse sensitivity @1.

new420 -- You say your getting banned from almost every halo server you play in. Im interested to know what name you play under and what clan your affiliated with. Not that im trying to recruit you for anything, just wanted to know.

  • 07.08.2008 4:45 PM PDT
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new420, do you have a favourite server where the admins are actually reasonable?

I've been having the same problem as of late... couple days ago I was tearing up xxx! and some dude came in (forgot his name), tk'd me, told me to "SIT", and before I could even type a response I'd been banned. The good people at Z11 have banned me as well. Getting kind of sick of it...

I still like the 'THE' servers (formerly lord) but they seem to be empty the majority of the time. "GF" and "DD" servers are pretty good ping-wise but full of children and the infinite grenades thing gets old quickly.

Prefer straight up CTF, preferably bloodgulch...

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Garniso - I used to be in MAW~ clan since it was made here on B.net until quite a few months back, I'm currently in BB (BigBad). As for names, I just use random ones unless I'm playing (LMAO s-c-r-i-m-m-i-n-g is -blam-ed out because of the word after the first two letters) with my clan, then I use bigbad420. I use a different one every time I play, according to how I feel. Sometimes I use song names, band names, and that kind of thing, but usually just random crap that comes to me spur of the moment.

okay player - No, I don't really have a favorite server. About the only servers I haven't been banned from are the knfr ones since those admins actually know how to catch botters, and I'm on their forum. But the type of players that go there detract from the experience (the elitists, whiners, plus most just constantly nade to try to keep up with the 1 or 2 good shooters who are in there.) When I look for a game to play, I just click on one that doesn't have an absolutely retarded name, check out the game type name and go in if it meets my standards, which is getting harder and harder to find, even with a fresh cd key. I usually play sniper ctf/ts, regular ctf, or ts with pistol starts. I also don't like overcrowded maps, so I skip the 16 man derelicts and such.

  • 07.08.2008 7:43 PM PDT
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OP: Simple solution to an empty server. Hog noob in it for about 5-10 minutes and people will come. ;)

The problem that I have about the whole "lets post our hash code" idea is most the hash code we've recieved are people who we know aren't botters but just really good. Or there are tons of people on these lists who have been banned for other reasons like making others in the server extremely uncomfortable etc.

As for over on The» servers I've seen many more wall hacks nowadays than actual botters. Usually it takes more footage to prove a wall hack than a botter because they don't always follow the arrows precisely. As far as bots go, we watch tracers, people who snap and headshot green arrows (not used alone as evidence), and a technique called telesnapping where the sj person watches as one of his buddies hides behind a teleporter. Once locked onto, the teleport person ports while the guy with sj tapes the whole snap.


Works like a charm in most cases ;)

  • 07.09.2008 7:37 AM PDT
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new420 - Ive seen the s-c-r-i-m-m-i-n-g name before, I just don't remember much more than that.

One thing I don't like about clans like The» who records their botters, is that once they record the person they don't do anything with it (at least not that I know of). [777] is another example since what they do is post the video on their forums but only for members/admins to see and not the public. In my opinion its a waste of time to do it at all if you really don't make all the vids public. But I guess its better than nothing. *Cough* Gk *Cough*

Lucian78 - Does dray get to play much halo these days? I know that everytime I go in ur servers under an alias he almost always ends up hiding some where while he sj's for several games (I know he is not afk b/c when someone goes for the flag he trys to shoot). I think he might need a hug.

  • 07.09.2008 3:03 PM PDT