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Subject: Current active competitive Halo PC Ladder/League

"'Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt."
-Abraham Lincoln

For the competitive players who are interested in participating in an organized/active league for daily battles. Read and understand the rules before you join the league, i'd suggest registering on the forums first.

HaloPC.org - Ladder/League.
HPTForum.com - League Forums / Halo PC Community.


By the way this was a post by Sodomist that I put up for him because he was having technical issues.

[Edited on 03.31.2008 8:26 PM PDT]

  • 03.30.2008 9:05 PM PDT

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Posted by: Iggwilv

*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

You said competitive halo PC, not scrub league with a bunchy of whiny cheaters. This thread does not deliver.

  • 03.30.2008 9:18 PM PDT
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Are you silly? I'm an League admin and have been for some time. If someone cheats, they always get caught and then banned for quite some time. In the league, everyone is required to record their matches and then upload/post them on the league forums IF requested by the opposing team. The league rules are strict and the majority follows them. Perhaps you think they hack because your on a lower level? There are alot of great players who play in the league, not necessarily cheats..

All are welcome to join and play for free

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  • 03.30.2008 10:38 PM PDT
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Puh-lease. I've seen a clickbot video, you probably have too, got it from someone in hpt, where the clickbot is pretty smooth and you can't tell he's cheating except on one sloppy shot. All of the other shots can be argued that they are legit, because they can be made by good players, you wouldn't ban anyone for that.

Edit: Oh also, I know a guy who has been cheating in that league for quite some time now and still hasn't been caught. He doesn't need to cheat, hes good by himself, he just does it to see how long he can get away with it because he believes the league is a joke, along with every halo player who isn't in hpt.

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You must be an idiot because that is not entirely true. Perhaps when HPT was ran by the ex HPT1/HPT0 before I stepped into the picture, then yeah.. otherwise you'd be naming him. Don't be so full of your self..are you really that bitter of people because your no where near the competitive level? If someone uploads a match video of them click botting it will be spotted..it has before and always will. Until you show some proof 'new420' please keep your mouth shut because nobody here asked for your negative input. If your going to state such degrading things about the league then ATLEAST back it up with evidence you peasant. The HPT administrative staff has been completely revised and is ran on a solid level now. As far as admin biasness and feeble ddos complaints, they are completely untrue and no other admin would stand for it.

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  • 03.30.2008 11:11 PM PDT
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Why would I name him? He still hasn't been caught.

I just love how you assume, just because I, and many others, find your hpt a pathetic joke of a competitive league, that I am bitter about not being as good as people who pour their lives into a game.

You say I'm full of myself and then you turn around and call me a peasant? You are the admin of a laughingstock of a league for a 7 year old game that "noobs" around the globe mock. Go outside.

  • 03.30.2008 11:33 PM PDT

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Posted by: Iggwilv

*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

Oh please, competitive halo pc has been a joke way back when you actually tried in KW. Even then it was full of people who thought they were much better than they were and ran around with a sniper trying to get clips for their 5th montage. Do I even dare mention the sportsmanship shown by MOST(not all) people?

Perhaps if these people played in a halfway decent league(CAL for example) it would humble some of these players. It's always great to beat people who are HPT players and then whine about how I am bad because I don't play there or want anything to do with it.

  • 03.31.2008 12:13 AM PDT
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Yeah. That's right. I don't have a 50 in H3. I never got Onyx in Reach. If a game sucks too much, I won't even bother trying for such trivial "accolades". Besides, I've done way more things that take far more skill and talent than anything that can be done in a video game.

Posted by: Sodomist
Perhaps you think they hack because your on a lower level? There are alot of great players who play in the league, not necessarily cheats..

Ummm, actually, yeah. If they don't cheat, then they have no life, and I honestly can't call anyone whose life revolves around Halo PC as a "great player." Either way, it's not something to be proud of.

Competitive HPC is a joke. The day the game receives a good Gearbox/Microsoft supported anti-cheat will be the day when competitive HPC becomes worthy of any sane person's time. But that'll be a cold day in Hell.

  • 03.31.2008 8:10 AM PDT
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Oh Gawd, another pissing contest started by a little league loving lame-ass. Lol @ alliteration.

Competitive gamers = losers with no real world skills.

On a brighter note, the snow finally melted from the roads. My baby's coming out of storage tonight!

Yamaha could kick MC's fuzzy white ass.

  • 03.31.2008 11:31 AM PDT
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http://files.filefront.com/clickbots+on+hangemhighwmv/;990165 6;/fileinfo.html

Which shots would you ban, other than the completely obvious one.

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  • 03.31.2008 1:28 PM PDT

Posted by: Nessy

The bungie.net community is the halo PC community that is renowned for being unbelieveably sucky.

^ this proves pretty easily that there is no definitive way to know who's cheating and who isn't. I've sightjacked people for 10 minutes or more before catching them make a mistake. No doubt I have missed many people who were in fact cheating. I caught someone two days ago cheating that looked legit.

Halo PC competitive play is dead beyond dead. When you have a game as easy to cheat at, people will find a way.

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Posted by: new420
http://files.filefront.com/clickbots+on+hangemhighwmv/;990165 6;/fileinfo.html

Which shots would you ban, other than the completely obvious one.


Wow, that looks really useful.

Sarcasm aside, anyone with half decent hand/eye coordination could defeat a bot. So I don't know why people waste their time complaining about it. Nearly every kill that video shows also show the player taking for, five, six, or even seven shots before he kills the target with the pistol. I eat botters for breakfast, then poop on their lawns.

  • 03.31.2008 4:50 PM PDT

Posted by: Nessy

The bungie.net community is the halo PC community that is renowned for being unbelieveably sucky.

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Posted by: new420
http://files.filefront.com/clickbots+on+hangemhighwmv/;990165 6;/fileinfo.html

Which shots would you ban, other than the completely obvious one.


Wow, that looks really useful.

Sarcasm aside, anyone with half decent hand/eye coordination could defeat a bot. So I don't know why people waste their time complaining about it. Nearly every kill that video shows also show the player taking for, five, six, or even seven shots before he kills the target with the pistol. I eat botters for breakfast, then poop on their lawns.


In the situation in the video, there is no way you are going to beat a good player aimbotting over time. The ability to know exactly where people are is a tremendous advantage, let alone perfect aim. Mr. Clickbot in the video is rapid fire, so he's missing some. Most people shoot like that, including aimbotters.
I believe that the best aimbotters also understand Halo pc pretty well, and how to get hits 99% of the time. Think of it this way, if a veteran can get mostly 5,4,3 shot/kills with the pistol, imagine that guy with an aimbot. They're definitely out there...the game is sooo old that people have pretty much mastered it without a bot, lol.
Back to the posted video... I don't think that a lot of people would be able to spot the cheating if you took out that one place almost exactly in the middle of the clip, where Clickbot tries to get a kill magically through the wall from across the map. At that point it's pretty obvious that he is botting, but even so some will miss it. Without the green arrows, it's tough to see people click onto others through walls, even though Clickbot is doing it the whole time! And I'm not even talking about when enemies are visible... sigh.
So, how to really spot is tough business, but I've learned one thing that remains true with bots and Halo pc across the board: Nobody, and I mean nobody has THAT steady of a hand when "clicked on" to another player. I'm talking about vertical sway up and down, or diagonal for that matter. Clicked on, amazing steady hand....other times, sloppy aim all over the place...does. not. compute. An easy way to notice this is if of course by watching where 100% of the shots go, to the head. :)

  • 03.31.2008 6:04 PM PDT
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I remember everyone claims that aimbots don't work when you duck or are in a vehicle. Is there any truth to this?

  • 03.31.2008 9:20 PM PDT
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Yeah. That's right. I don't have a 50 in H3. I never got Onyx in Reach. If a game sucks too much, I won't even bother trying for such trivial "accolades". Besides, I've done way more things that take far more skill and talent than anything that can be done in a video game.

Posted by: Pet0sh
I remember everyone claims that aimbots don't work when you duck or are in a vehicle. Is there any truth to this?

Vehicles, yes, you'ree immune to known aimbots. And if someone is locked on to you with bitterbanana's aimbot and you enter a vehicle, they will snap 180 degrees.

As far as crouching, there are aimbots out there that can be adjusted.

  • 04.01.2008 8:48 PM PDT

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Posted by: Pet0sh
I remember everyone claims that aimbots don't work when you duck or are in a vehicle. Is there any truth to this?

Vehicles, yes, you'ree immune to known aimbots. And if someone is locked on to you with bitterbanana's aimbot and you enter a vehicle, they will snap 180 degrees.

As far as crouching, there are aimbots out there that can be adjusted.
I obtained a stash of aimbots a few years ago, and I tested them with my now dead pal LordAndrew (Rest In Peace.). The vehicle theory is absolutely true and , from what I saw, does make you snap 180 degrees. However, there was one or two aimbot programs which did somehow achieve headshots even when the character being aimed at crouched. God knows how aimbots work now.

  • 04.01.2008 8:57 PM PDT

Posted by: Nessy

The bungie.net community is the halo PC community that is renowned for being unbelieveably sucky.

I've definitely seen an aimbot that works in vehicles. I believe Nessy also confirmed this (take with grain of salt). The guy I saw was "aimbot test" and was rapid-fire pwning everyone, including people in hogs. No question he was botting. When you think about it, it isn't surprising that some code monkey figured out how to do it. Thankfully, this bot is not common it seems.

As far as ducking, it only works if the aimbotter is a tool and has the height adjusted too high. I do not know if there are aimbots that will auto adjust to the height of the head, but I assumed no.

Then of course there is the old blue walling type of cheat similar to wireframeing. I've caught people doing this as well and they have admitted it. This is tough to spot because they aren't locking onto you of course, just able to see you through terrain.

  • 04.02.2008 11:59 AM PDT
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LordAndrew is dead?

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for the love of god do not go and play in sodomies -blam!- little league

u wanna know how he came to own a league? ill tell you

once upon a time there was a website running several leagues called clanwars.cc. one of these leagues was a halopc league called klanwars. sodomist managed to get himself banned permanently. in response he started to ddos (distributed denial of service, effectively sends a -blam!- load of packets at the target, taking them offline) clanwars.cc. in an attempt to get unbanned however KW-1 chose not to unban him (the only respectable decision he ever made) and said he was not gonna let him have his way. Then a league called HPT also on clanwars.cc came along and bit by bit people moved to this new league while klanwars went down bit by bit, helped along by sod persistently ddosing everything in site.

so now klanwars is gone and has been replaced by another -blam!- little league, but the story doesn't end there! oh no! you see -blam!- managed to get himself a position as admin in this league. thats right someone who has a history of directly ddosing was given a position as admin where he could see peoples ip, but hey it was better than the league getting ddosed. for a while the league went along smoothly and it all functioned...barely. behind the scenes admins were complaining about sodomies friends getting unbanned early and suchalike but the league still ran (i was an admin at this so i know). The one day pat(the owner of clanwars.cc) decided that he wanted to be sponsored by EA Sports. For this he wanted hits, hits his site was never gonna get so he went to someone that he apparently despised...sod. in return for ddosing clanwars.cc (each packet means a hit!) he would give hpt to sod. And there you have it, a league more corrupt than china.

I hope you enjoyed this weeks lesson on HaloPC and always remember "INTERNETZ IZ SERIUZ BIZNIZ"

also new420 i guess ur talking about busta right? cos if so everyone knows.




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  • 04.02.2008 1:22 PM PDT
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Wow good bit of history there. Not like anyone was taking this seriously though.

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Posted by: Anton P Nym
who says you have to be an ace to have fun?

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Stupid parents let their stupid children play games that are rated M when they should be playing Big Birds Spelling Adventures

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Also the AR is actually good in CQB now and no longer a glorified baseball bat.

How could anyone take a pervert with the name "sodomist" seriously anyways? :/

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Watch your -blam!-s boys and girls. And for the love of god, DON'T BEND OVER!

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Watch your -blam!-s boys and girls. And for the love of god, DON'T BEND OVER!


^Best post of this topic, hahaha. Nice one.^

  • 04.03.2008 6:39 AM PDT

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Posted by: Sodomist
You must be an idiot because that is not entirely true. Perhaps when HPT was ran by the ex HPT1/HPT0 before I stepped into the picture, then yeah.. otherwise you'd be naming him. Don't be so full of your self..are you really that bitter of people because your no where near the competitive level? If someone uploads a match video of them click botting it will be spotted..it has before and always will. Until you show some proof 'new420' please keep your mouth shut because nobody here asked for your negative input. If your going to state such degrading things about the league then ATLEAST back it up with evidence you peasant. The HPT administrative staff has been completely revised and is ran on a solid level now. As far as admin biasness and feeble ddos complaints, they are completely untrue and no other admin would stand for it.

Thanks~

I LIEK S0 NO U SUM WER. Did I see you perhaps in the retards corner of "those-people-that-think-competitive-games-that-are-dead -and-take-no-skill-are-going-to-get-you-somewhere-in-life&quo t;?

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  • 04.03.2008 1:44 PM PDT
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I like how he hasn't responded. I also like how he and u kno keep trying to add me to xfire. Just fyi kids, I'm not going to accept, so stop trying.

  • 04.03.2008 3:01 PM PDT

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