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Yes, I believe you have the right to know where and when you want to die. The samurai believed that by commiting seppuku, they were saving face, even if all was lost. They believed that rather than to die shamefully at the hands of their enemies, they would instead "save" themselves by preserving their honor. This applies to this man and article as well.

By the way, I was not implying that disembowling yourself was a good thing, or that killing yourself for stupid reasons is right. I was just making a comparison. Sorry if I offended anyone.

[Edited on 1/29/2005 4:27:33 PM]

  • 01.29.2005 3:17 PM PDT
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Posted by: Kendoboy
how is killing yourself wrong? Its your life you decide how you want it to go. Death is an answer and I personaly think that if you want to keep you dignity, honer, and respect you do what you want how you want.


Honor? Suicide has no honor with it. It is a cheap and cowardly way out. The honor comes from perservearing and working through your problems. Euthenasia(sp?) is different. I really don't know what to say about that. There are a lot of factors involved in that.

  • 01.29.2005 3:18 PM PDT
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Posted by: DaedalusMJ12
Yes, I believe you have the right to know where and when you want to die. The samurai believed that by commiting seppuku, they were saving face, even if all was lost. They believed that rather than to die shamefully at the hands of their enemies, they would instead "save" themselves by preserving their honor. This applies to this man and article as well.


Word for word on what I meant.

Thank you. You just made my day. : )

  • 01.29.2005 3:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: Kendoboy
how is killing yourself wrong? Its your life you decide how you want it to go. Death is an answer and I personaly think that if you want to keep you dignity, honer, and respect you do what you want how you want.


Honor? Suicide has no honor with it. It is a cheap and cowardly way out. The honor comes from perservearing and working through your problems. Euthenasia(sp?) is different. I really don't know what to say about that. There are a lot of factors involved in that.


i believe in justified suicide. when you commit suicide because your boyfriend left you or some dumass reason like that, your not justified. if your dieing of AID's or some other painful desease, your justified in what you do.

  • 01.29.2005 3:20 PM PDT
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Posted by: Xeroh
I think of Suicide as nothing more than an action, like walking or mas- nevermind.

Your going to be forgotten anyways.


Not realy if you achive something memorable then you will be remmebred. For example this guy that we're speeking of now. We remeber him dont we?

  • 01.29.2005 3:21 PM PDT
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That would fall more under the classification of euthinasia. Killing yourself because you are dieing anyway and want to end the pain. That I really don't know about. It is easy for someone who isn't experiencing something like that to say they can just deal with it, so I really don't know.

  • 01.29.2005 3:24 PM PDT
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Posted by: Xeroh
Posted by: Kendoboy
Posted by: Xeroh
I think of Suicide as nothing more than an action, like walking or mas- nevermind.

Your going to be forgotten anyways.


Not realy if you achive something memorable then you will be remmebred. For example this guy that we're speeking of now. We remeber him dont we?

Were all going to be forgotten if you know what I mean.


At one point or another but being remembered for hundres of years isnt exactly bad. Look at Homer and the oddesy, Cicearo, Galileo, Darwin, and many others.

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Posted by: Xeroh
Posted by: Kendoboy
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I think of Suicide as nothing more than an action, like walking or mas- nevermind.

Your going to be forgotten anyways.


Not realy if you achive something memorable then you will be remmebred. For example this guy that we're speeking of now. We remeber him dont we?

Were all going to be forgotten if you know what I mean.


thats a scary thought. even the most famous people will be forgotten. but then again, who cares? life isnt about becoming remembered, its about fulfilling your own wishes. im probably going to be famous when i grow up, but thats because my wish is to make a band and inspire people with music. if i can inspire someone, who will inspire someone else, who will inspire someone else, then my wish will be fulfilled.

thats why i crack up when people ask "whats the meaning of life?" because if they cant figure that out, they're gunna live a boring life (IE a buisness man).


but w/e.

  • 01.29.2005 3:33 PM PDT
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I see what she's saying. We, as in us in this conversation right now, will not be remembered. And she is right to an extent. We will not be famous or have our names remembered for generations, but we will all be remembered by our friends and family.

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There are reasons why it should be legal and why not. It's a stalemate. It would lead to awkward headlines like "Man Kills Wife Because She Said She Wanted To Die" and someone could kill someone and say they wanted to die. Sure, they could make papers but there's forgery. It should be aloud because it's our life and supposedly a "free country. It's hard to decide weither or not to allow it.

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Oregon or something I think.

  • 01.29.2005 3:41 PM PDT
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Which state? (I live in Canada.)

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Posted by: Jo Mama
There are reasons why it should be legal and why not. It's a stalemate. It would lead to awkward headlines like "Man Kills Wife Because She Said She Wanted To Die" and someone could kill someone and say they wanted to die. Sure, they could make papers but there's forgery. It should be aloud because it's our life and supposedly a "free country. It's hard to decide weither or not to allow it.


ya, that would be considered murder. but if you take the precautions (tell people you know your doing it) then it should be ok.

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Heh. I think it should be alowed but only in a hospital (with a doctor so you die with the least possible amount of pain.) or with a proffesional samuri. I would personaly like to go with sepaku when i die. Then have my ashes spread across the ocean. My mind might change as I get older but for now those are my wishes.

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No. Active euthanesia is wrong. So is suicide. Passive euthanesia is okay in my opinion, and as far as I know, it is legal. But active euthanasia and suicide are big no-no's.

And who the hell said you wanted to commit sppuku? That has got to be the stupidest thing I have ever heard. It has got to be one of the more painful ways to die... Have fun disembowling yourself!

This is when it becomes painfully obvious that the forums are populated by a bunch of kids. I find it disgusting that you entertain such romantic notions about suicide. Suicidal behavior is indicative of serious mental illness. Thats all I have to say for now.

  • 01.29.2005 4:22 PM PDT
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Umm Tex I know what im saying. Pluss without my head I wouldnt feal much.

  • 01.29.2005 4:25 PM PDT
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Yay Tex! Someone agrees with me.

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I always thought of it as if you're dying then you have a right then and only then for suicide. Suicide for any other reason is just stupid and hurts everyone around you. I myself would rather die of natural causes even if I had terminal cancer. I'd rather stick it out in life as long as I can before it ends.

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Posted by: Texas Ben
No. Active euthanesia is wrong. So is suicide. Passive euthanesia is okay in my opinion, and as far as I know, it is legal. But active euthanasia and suicide are big no-no's.

And who the hell said you wanted to commit sppuku? That has got to be the stupidest thing I have ever heard. It has got to be one of the more painful ways to die... Have fun disembowling yourself!

This is when it becomes painfully obvious that the forums are populated by a bunch of kids. I find it disgusting that you entertain such romantic notions about suicide. Suicidal behavior is indicative of serious mental illness. Thats all I have to say for now.


i dont think that man dieing has any serious mental illness's. he just doesnt want to die slowly in front of his family.

  • 01.29.2005 4:30 PM PDT
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Tex im sorry but maybe your the childish one? Possibly not ruling out I could be the childish one.

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Posted by: Texas Ben
No. Active euthanesia is wrong. So is suicide. Passive euthanesia is okay in my opinion, and as far as I know, it is legal. But active euthanasia and suicide are big no-no's.

And who the hell said you wanted to commit sppuku? That has got to be the stupidest thing I have ever heard. It has got to be one of the more painful ways to die... Have fun disembowling yourself!

This is when it becomes painfully obvious that the forums are populated by a bunch of kids. I find it disgusting that you entertain such romantic notions about suicide. Suicidal behavior is indicative of serious mental illness. Thats all I have to say for now.
yeah suicide is wrong and so is active euthenesia its just a waste of a life.

  • 01.29.2005 4:36 PM PDT