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Posted by: Kendoboy
Tex im sorry but maybe your the childish one? Possibly not ruling out I could be the childish one.


not childish, mislead. you cant understand pain unless youve felt it.

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I am against any form of euthinasia or suicide, unless the person being euthanized has no hope of survival and no reason to stay alive. Meaning the persons family even wants them to do it, because they are in so much pain.

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Posted by: Kendoboy
Tex im sorry but maybe your the childish one? Possibly not ruling out I could be the childish one.


not childish, mislead. you cant understand pain unless youve felt it.


Heh Ive experiance a lot of pain of all sorts. But what kind of pain? I can take phisycal pain I always could when I barke bones I dont even cringe just accept it.

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Posted by: Kendoboy
Tex im sorry but maybe your the childish one? Possibly not ruling out I could be the childish one.


I never said I wasn't childish, but saying you want to commit suicide is certainly childish. I am very childish in many ways, but this is not one of them.

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Posted by: Texas Ben
Posted by: Kendoboy
Tex im sorry but maybe your the childish one? Possibly not ruling out I could be the childish one.


I never said I wasn't childish, but saying you want to commit suicide is certainly childish. I am very childish in many ways, but this is not one of them.


suicide is childish from the spectators eyes, just as murder is evil. not all murder is evil. if someone takes everything you have, kills everyone you love, and gets away, murder sint evil.

suicide is about taking the pain away. any kind of pain, phycological or physical. sometimes, yes, its very very childish, but there are times when its justified. the man in question is justified. thats the end of it.

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Posted by: RandomlyIssued
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Posted by: Kendoboy
Tex im sorry but maybe your the childish one? Possibly not ruling out I could be the childish one.


I never said I wasn't childish, but saying you want to commit suicide is certainly childish. I am very childish in many ways, but this is not one of them.


suicide is childish from the spectators eyes, just as murder is evil. not all murder is evil. if someone takes everything you have, kills everyone you love, and gets away, murder sint evil.

suicide is about taking the pain away. any kind of pain, phycological or physical. sometimes, yes, its very very childish, but there are times when its justified. the man in question is justified. thats the end of it.
eh commiting suicide cause of psychological pain isnt justified its just a waste of a life and its very childish.

[Edited on 1/29/2005 6:08:37 PM]

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Posted by: Texas Ben
All your invisios are belong to us.
for great justice take off every zig!!

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Posted by: gamingfreak200
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Tex im sorry but maybe your the childish one? Possibly not ruling out I could be the childish one.


I never said I wasn't childish, but saying you want to commit suicide is certainly childish. I am very childish in many ways, but this is not one of them.


suicide is childish from the spectators eyes, just as murder is evil. not all murder is evil. if someone takes everything you have, kills everyone you love, and gets away, murder sint evil.

suicide is about taking the pain away. any kind of pain, phycological or physical. sometimes, yes, its very very childish, but there are times when its justified. the man in question is justified. thats the end of it.
eh commiing suicide cause of psychological pain isnt justified its just a waste of a life and its very childish.


Im sorry freak200, but you are arogent, deluded, and foolish. You realy are. My opinion.

[Edited on 1/29/2005 5:18:21 PM]

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Posted by: RandomlyIssued

suicide is childish from the spectators eyes, just as murder is evil. not all murder is evil. if someone takes everything you have, kills everyone you love, and gets away, murder sint evil.

suicide is about taking the pain away. any kind of pain, phycological or physical. sometimes, yes, its very very childish, but there are times when its justified. the man in question is justified. thats the end of it.


All murder is wrong. Just like all suicide is wrong. Neither is justifiable. Murder in circumstances is explainable, but not justifiable. Just because they wronged you does not mean you should compromise your moral values to inflict pain on them.

Suicide is never justified. But like I said, I think that passive eutenasia is okay, seeing as it isn't really suicide.

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Posted by: Kendoboy
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Posted by: Kendoboy
Tex im sorry but maybe your the childish one? Possibly not ruling out I could be the childish one.


I never said I wasn't childish, but saying you want to commit suicide is certainly childish. I am very childish in many ways, but this is not one of them.


suicide is childish from the spectators eyes, just as murder is evil. not all murder is evil. if someone takes everything you have, kills everyone you love, and gets away, murder sint evil.

suicide is about taking the pain away. any kind of pain, phycological or physical. sometimes, yes, its very very childish, but there are times when its justified. the man in question is justified. thats the end of it.
eh commiing suicide cause of psychological pain isnt justified its just a waste of a life and its very childish.


Im sorry but you are arogent and foolish. You realy are. My opinion.
you dont need to say that its your opinion cause thats dumb, we can all tell that its your opinion because your name is right above what you stated....secondly suicide is stupid and if your going to commit suicide do this:choke yourself to death all you need is two hands,now place your hands on your neck and choke yourself, if you are reading this then you have failed.

[Edited on 1/29/2005 5:22:17 PM]

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Posted by: Kendoboy
Im sorry freak200, but you are arogent, deluded, and foolish. You realy are. My opinion.


I know you weren't talking to or about me, but if you think seppuku is a good way to go out, you should not be calling anyone deluded. To romanticize suicide in any way shape or form is very naive.

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Heh did I ever tell you guys ingnoring stupid people keeps you alive?

Im willing to do it when im old dying of old age is just boring life should always be intresting no?

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I support anything that kills invisi-posts however, even if it means suicide.

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aaaaaauuuughh inviso-posts

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Posted by: Kendoboy
Im willing to do it when im old dying of old age is just boring life should always be intresting no?

We'll see what you think when your old.

Old people like boring.

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Posted by: Texas Ben
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suicide is childish from the spectators eyes, just as murder is evil. not all murder is evil. if someone takes everything you have, kills everyone you love, and gets away, murder sint evil.

suicide is about taking the pain away. any kind of pain, phycological or physical. sometimes, yes, its very very childish, but there are times when its justified. the man in question is justified. thats the end of it.


All murder is wrong. Just like all suicide is wrong. Neither is justifiable. Murder in circumstances is explainable, but not justifiable. Just because they wronged you does not mean you should compromise your moral values to inflict pain on them.

Suicide is never justified. But like I said, I think that passive eutenasia is okay, seeing as it isn't really suicide.


textbook answer. unfortunatly, life isnt a text book. there are things in life people experience that is unexplanable. it will drive them to suicide. it only happens to few, but it does happen. you and i cannot understand what it is, for we havent experienced it. so please, stop blatently stating death is all bad and evil.

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Thats why i said my mind might change.

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Posted by: Texas Ben
Posted by: Kendoboy
Im sorry freak200, but you are arogent, deluded, and foolish. You realy are. My opinion.


I know you weren't talking to or about me, but if you think seppuku is a good way to go out, you should not be calling anyone deluded. To romanticize suicide in any way shape or form is very naive.


you left out the part where thats an opinion, not a fact.

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You know, I just wrote a 3000 char reply for this, then hit delete to fix a spelling mistake and it went back... I lost my whole post aaaaaaargh.

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If someone doesn't want to live why make them? It's their life let them decide what they want to do with it.

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TSP

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yes you should. under any surcumstances.

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It doesn't matter how, it doesn't matter why. Anyone should have the right to do with their life as they wish, including end it. As I said before, the only exception should be those deemed mentally ill and unable to reason. As far as assisted suicide goes, I agree with it, but it would have to be done the right way. For example, it would have to be carried out by a designated person by the authorities after talking to the suicidal person.

My life is my own; I have the right to do with it as I please. So long as my thinking is not impaired and I have some reasonable state of consciousness I should legally be able to take my life if I so please. I am in no way suicidal, and I do not in any form approve, it's a coward’s way out. With that said, however, I think it's not my place, or anyone else’s place to tell someone they can't kill themselves if they want.

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OK *sigh* here we go again. (written in Notepad this time :D a bit shorter though)

For The Right to Die
Our life is our own, we belong to ourselves, we have free will, and if that free will extends to taking our own life then so be it. Also, many people who commit suicide or ar Euthenased would die painfully, but instead have a relatively painless death. Some conditions not only cause you to suffer, but others around you, so you are doing them a favour. Also, hospital beds are expensive, and you are a burden to society while you are alive.

Against The Right to Die
What kind of society kills off those in need, or allows them to die needlessly. We should care for them! In England we have hostels (sp?) where people who would otherwise be dead can live out their days in a nice environment where visitors are welcome and pain killers are ready whenever you like (a hostel (sp?) is like a specialised hospital that is run by charity).

The "slippery slope" argument. Today suicde/euthenaisa could be legal for the terminally ill, tomorrow the disabled, day after tomorrow the elderly, and after that, who knows?

If you are a Christian, you would be worried about your soul. It is blatantly obvious that killing is considered wrong, whether it is you or your patient, so in fact suicidal people and active euthenasers are in fact sinners. Beware unless you think you have a REALLY good excuse.

Middle Ground
Some doctors will administer pain killers, knowing that they will shorten the patients lifespan, but are primarily to relieve pain.

I suppose that if I had to choose, I would be against, leaning towards the middle ground.

  • 01.29.2005 5:52 PM PDT