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Subject: the scientific and technological aspect of halo and halo 2
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does anyone wish to have a civilised debate on the science behind halo? for example: how fast would halo have to spin to create sufficient forces to simulate typical earth gravity?

  • 06.19.2004 1:41 PM PDT
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no
your a super
dumb -BLAM!-

  • 06.19.2004 1:42 PM PDT
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indeed, but presuming the forerunners used artificial gravity to keep the atmosphere in place, surely after millions of years the atmosphere would slowly dissipate into the surrounding space? however, if the ring world does spin, then surely the forces created by the spin to simulate gravity would then subsequently rip halo apart

  • 06.19.2004 2:00 PM PDT
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I know this is off-subject, but what is astrophysical genetics?

It's in Super Nerd's signature, just in case you're wondering.

[Edited on 6/19/2004 2:10:58 PM]

  • 06.19.2004 2:07 PM PDT
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halo is a cirlce ()

  • 06.19.2004 2:13 PM PDT
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ah, yes, that is a very valid point. and Geronimo: i dont know what astrophysical genetics is. i made it up. however, theoreticaly, it could be the combined studies of astronomy, physics and genetics?

  • 06.19.2004 2:13 PM PDT
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3+2=5

  • 06.19.2004 2:16 PM PDT
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Sort of an odd topic to start espicially in this forum. Why would the artificial gravity not work? Were talking about the forerunners. They are probably either pumping out atmosphere all the time, or the gravity keeps it in. Either way its a sci-fi first person shooter. So why would anybody even care?

  • 06.19.2004 2:22 PM PDT
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I care, it is an interesting topic...

The gravity of earth is 9.8, I forgot the units...

I took basic physics this year...

Although I had a crappy teacher, it was an interesting class...

  • 06.19.2004 2:28 PM PDT
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The ring is probably able able to maintain just enough atmosphere for life, but not enough for life through the center of the ring...

  • 06.19.2004 2:30 PM PDT
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I believe that a falling object on Earth falls at a rate of 9.8 Newtons per second squared.

EDIT: No wait that's wrong. The Newton is a measure of weight, not distance. The Earth's gravitational pull is 9.8 Newtons. I don't know what the rate of a falling object is.

[Edited on 6/19/2004 2:42:50 PM]

  • 06.19.2004 2:31 PM PDT
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well "pistol pete", while some of the more common types such as yourself may not worry your little minds about complicated things like astrophysical genetics, there are more civilised and cultured individuals such as myself that have the brainpower to think about things like that. In addition, I dont think you'll be laughing when I attain my degrees in the advanced sciences and astrogenetics!

  • 06.19.2004 2:36 PM PDT
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Too....much...nerd...cannot...survive.....

  • 06.19.2004 2:39 PM PDT
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NERDS ARE THE BUILDING BLOCKS OF SOCIETY- DO NOT MOCK US OR FEEL THE WRATH OF OUR AWESOME BRAINPOWER!

  • 06.19.2004 2:44 PM PDT
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just to say nerd dude you miss spelled civilized, its kinda a z not an S, where's all the brain power for your first language???

  • 06.19.2004 2:48 PM PDT
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It's the centripital force that would simulate the gravity of Earth (not centrifical, there is a difference).

On Earth, the average free-fall acceleration is -9.81 meters per second squared.

If someone can tell me the radius or the diameter of the halo, I might be able to calculate the speed needed.

  • 06.19.2004 2:59 PM PDT
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That's quite obvious, he is using all brainpower to unravel the mysteries of the universe and so like Einstien he regularly forgets mundane things like if he's wearing pants or how to tie his shoes

BTW: isn't it called centrifugal force?

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  • 06.19.2004 3:00 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sky Knight
just to say nerd dude you miss spelled civilized, its kinda a z not an S, where's all the brain power for your first language???


Haha, I was going to say the same thing. If you ask me though, this guy is just a fake, desperately seeking attention by trying to act smart. Even though he acts like a super-genius, he still manages to misspell words...

  • 06.19.2004 3:04 PM PDT
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Oh come on, a bunch of smartasses in one room and they don't even know the rate of a falling object?

It's 9.8 m/second^2.


-_Edit_-

My bad. Some other nerd said it before.

Too much text you know

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Posted by: super nerd89
indeed, but presuming the forerunners used artificial gravity to keep the atmosphere in place, surely after millions of years the atmosphere would slowly dissipate into the surrounding space? however, if the ring world does spin, then surely the forces created by the spin to simulate gravity would then subsequently rip halo apart


The mass of the Earth is responsible for its gravitational pull, not it's spinning.

The spinning would create a force that could simulate gravity for all objects on the halo that are spinning with it. I don't know if it would have an effect on the air in the atmosphere, as I am not sure that the air would be carried with it.

  • 06.19.2004 3:05 PM PDT
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Halo is roughly 10,000 kilometres in diameter and 22.3 km thick

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http://halo.bungie.org/theories/smith.techtheories.html

  • 06.19.2004 3:11 PM PDT
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I'm getting that the halo would need to spin at roughly 7000 m/s to simulate earth's gravitational effect on the objects that are spinning with it.

(If the diameter is 10000 km)

[Edited on 6/19/2004 3:14:40 PM]

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