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Subject: If you could kill one person...
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If you could kill one person who and when would it be? It could be Mr Hitler, but I think we've all played command and conquer - red alert. It could also be me before I posted this thread.

Personally, I'd probably go and kill Hitler a long time before he assumed power in Germany.

Who would you guys kill?

  • 02.02.2005 6:43 AM PDT
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I would go back in time and kill my mom so I can cease to exist

  • 02.02.2005 6:46 AM PDT
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i should probably have stated that paradoxes aren't allowed.

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I would go back in time and kill your mom so you cease to exist, therefore making this thread not exist, which in turn makes my not come up with the idea to make myself not exist, therefore no paradoxes are created

  • 02.02.2005 6:51 AM PDT

But then, even your scenario could be paradoxical. If you went back to kill Hitler, then the -blam!-s wouldn't have come to power, and then you would never feel the need to kill Hitler, and so you wouldn't go back in time to kill Hitler, and then the -blam!-s would come to power....

Since backwards time travel in the conventional sense (ie, to change one's own history) is theoretically impossible, anyway, I think worrying about paradoxes in time travel hypotheticals is pointless in any case.

- Reiginko

  • 02.02.2005 6:53 AM PDT
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hmm... i suppose so.

  • 02.02.2005 6:55 AM PDT
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Posted by: Reiginko

Since backwards time travel in the conventional sense (ie, to change one's own history) is theoretically impossible, anyway, I think worrying about paradoxes in time travel hypotheticals is pointless in any case.

- Reiginko


True, but that's just in the convetional sense. Give me a moment to gather my thoughts...

  • 02.02.2005 7:03 AM PDT
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It's a shame that political discussions aren't allowed.

I would probably kill some sort of rapist or paedophile. Not that anyone deserves to die (the right to life?), but if I had to...

  • 02.02.2005 7:06 AM PDT
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But time travel into the future is theoretically possible in the sense that it doesn't have the same paradoxes as traveling into the past. Of couse you could travel into the past and if you don't alter you future in anyway that wouldn't be a paradox

  • 02.02.2005 7:08 AM PDT
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I would kill anyone who says soccer is a sport for pansys and -blam!-s.

  • 02.02.2005 7:11 AM PDT

Posted by: Metal Nutz
But time travel into the future is theoretically possible in the sense that it doesn't have the same paradoxes as traveling into the past. Of couse you could travel into the past and if you don't alter you future in anyway that wouldn't be a paradox


Of course forwards time travel is possible - you do it constantly, at a rate depending on your state of motion. The only way to avoid travelling forwards through time is to move at the speed of light through space.

- Reiginko

  • 02.02.2005 7:15 AM PDT
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BUSH (obviously)

  • 02.02.2005 7:19 AM PDT
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Posted by: Reiginko
The only way to avoid travelling forwards through time is to move at the speed of light through space.

- Reiginko

So then instead of travelling through time at all, you would be stuck at one point in time. I guess that means that you could get to the future at the same age as when you started travelling at light speed.

  • 02.02.2005 7:25 AM PDT
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That's if you believe Einstein was correct though. I'm doing relativity next year in my physics degree, so I may believe him then. in my currently uneducated opinion, i think having the speed of light as a boundary for the speed of travel is silly... especially when quantum physics says things can travel faster than that.

EDIT - its just occured to me that I have an Einstein quote as my signature. he was correct about some things.

[Edited on 2/2/2005 8:15:48 AM]

  • 02.02.2005 8:14 AM PDT

It's pretty hard to disagree with Einstein on most counts, considering that Relativity is one of the most successful theories ever conceived.

Of course, quantum mechanics is the most successful theory we have, but neither of them can be right.

What you think is "silly" is basically neither here nor there, unfortunately. Common sense is sort of pushed out the window when it comes to relativity or especially quantum mechanics.

- Reiginko

  • 02.02.2005 8:18 AM PDT
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Posted by: Reiginko
It's pretty hard to disagree with Einstein on most counts, considering that Relativity is one of the most successful theories ever conceived.

Of course, quantum mechanics is the most successful theory we have, but neither of them can be right.

What you think is "silly" is basically neither here nor there, unfortunately. Common sense is sort of pushed out the window when it comes to relativity or especially quantum mechanics.

- Reiginko


The theory of relativity is just that, a theory. It hasn't been proven or disproven

  • 02.02.2005 8:37 AM PDT
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Posted by: Metal Nutz
Posted by: Reiginko
It's pretty hard to disagree with Einstein on most counts, considering that Relativity is one of the most successful theories ever conceived.

Of course, quantum mechanics is the most successful theory we have, but neither of them can be right.

What you think is "silly" is basically neither here nor there, unfortunately. Common sense is sort of pushed out the window when it comes to relativity or especially quantum mechanics.

- Reiginko


The theory of relativity is just that, a theory. It hasn't been proven or disproven


actually you are wrong most of the theory of relativity applies to everyday things like airplane travel satellite navigation and like a billion other things.

  • 02.02.2005 10:08 AM PDT

-S

I hate time travel.

  • 02.02.2005 10:32 AM PDT
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Posted by: Metal Nutz
Posted by: Reiginko
It's pretty hard to disagree with Einstein on most counts, considering that Relativity is one of the most successful theories ever conceived.

Of course, quantum mechanics is the most successful theory we have, but neither of them can be right.

What you think is "silly" is basically neither here nor there, unfortunately. Common sense is sort of pushed out the window when it comes to relativity or especially quantum mechanics.

- Reiginko


The theory of relativity is just that, a theory. It hasn't been proven or disproven


actually you are wrong most of the theory of relativity applies to everyday things like airplane travel satellite navigation and like a billion other things.


E=MC2 has only been proven on paper not in practice

  • 02.02.2005 10:43 AM PDT
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The vast majority of science is a theory, but are theories that fit with observations that have been made. We dont know whether anything we assume is correct, but we cant live life like that so we live it according to what we think we know, including scientific theories. This continues until we find an explanation that better fits what we experience.

BTW what if time travel into the past is possible, but all you could do is make what has happened happen, ie, that in our past we have people from the future who have affected our past and present and have just made their history come true?

And say we could change the past without patradox problems, how would we know thw world would be better off with or without certain things happening?


BTW if I could kill anyone, I would avoid time travel paradoxes and kill either some nasty contemporary dictator, or Bush (not comparing him to a dictator, just dont like him).

[Edited on 2/2/2005 11:00:38 AM]

  • 02.02.2005 10:59 AM PDT
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someone said to me a while ago that he believed in time travel, but everything that could be changed has already been changed.

as for the science, at my university my lecturers are starting to develop common phrases such as "the best guess" and "as far as we know". my favourite was when we were introduced to quantum mechanics as "a guess at a theory that happens to work quite well".

*sigh* if only newton was actually correct. how easy my life would be.

  • 02.02.2005 11:15 AM PDT
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I would kill my neighbor's fetus.

  • 02.02.2005 11:17 AM PDT
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Posted by: Socialist
The vast majority of science is a theory, but are theories that fit with observations that have been made. We dont know whether anything we assume is correct, but we cant live life like that so we live it according to what we think we know, including scientific theories. This continues until we find an explanation that better fits what we experience.

BTW what if time travel into the past is possible, but all you could do is make what has happened happen, ie, that in our past we have people from the future who have affected our past and present and have just made their history come true?

And say we could change the past without patradox problems, how would we know thw world would be better off with or without certain things happening?


BTW if I could kill anyone, I would avoid time travel paradoxes and kill either some nasty contemporary dictator, or Bush (not comparing him to a dictator, just dont like him).


This is why I'm skeptic and doubt everything including my own existence.

  • 02.02.2005 11:21 AM PDT
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Well MEtal Nutz.... No one really cares about you and your theories. You go to hell. You go to hell and you die....~Mr Garrison

  • 02.02.2005 11:34 AM PDT
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I'd kill your mom.

I'm sorry, it just had to be said.

  • 02.02.2005 11:37 AM PDT

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