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The flood didnt let themselves out in Halo 2. They were all kept together in the Quarantine zone if you remember. Somehow they got their hands on In Amber Clad and got to High Charity.

Just a couple of questions I have been pondering over - 1.On the level called 100,000 year's war, when you are the Arbiter on Halo trying to retrive the Holy Icon (index), you jump out of a tunnel of some sorts and some Elites in drop pods come down. If you look up at the Sky near the Middle of that really big building, you will see two structures up in the air. Some sort of projectile is fired at one of them and it gets hit and starts to list to one side.
What is it?

2. Why is the level called 100,000 year's war? What war is it referring to? The war between the Covenant and Flood? Or the Reclaimers war against the flood? I didn't think the Covenant had even come into contact with flood at that time.

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I agree, the Flood couldn't have let themselves out, cause they'd need to feed off of something that would eventually form Gravemind.

I can't remember that part from the game, I'll have to play it again and check that out.

As for why its called the 100,000 Year's War, I'm not entirely sure. I'd imagine its the continued war against the containment of the Flood. Or it could be the Covenant and the Flood. Sure the Covenant hasn't been around for 100,000 years, but the Prophets sure have been. Why did the Prophets eventually leave their home planet? Could they have accidentally released the Flood?

Hmmm, troubling.

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lol the heritics and the sentinals let them out play the game and see

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hmmm thats a puzzler maby they have been at war for a thousand years but they were contained in energy fields like holding cells so the sentinals didn't need to shoot them and thats why there were some left when the covies arived

and as for grave mind i think that mabey he was already like that from feeding on forerunners? and just hibernated?

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I think theres something about the Quarantine Zone that we dont know of. I may not make some sense right now but thats just cause my head is full of a bunch of ideas that im just gonna type about.

1000 Year war
I think thats either about the Covenant and the Flood or the Sentinels and the Flood. I think it mentions somewhere about the Flood and the Covenant fighting for quite a while and the Covenant do seem to have alot of information on the Flood. I think the flood must have been realeased by something,it seems like they have a good hold on the Quarintne Zone so maybe when the Forerunners screwed up on Delta Halo they were set free.

Also back to the QUarantine Zone i think theres mysteries about that place. The tunnels and networks must lead to the research zones and where the flood were held. I just think theres something about that place that will be found out in Halo 3. Also i dont know if you have noticed but i think the object that was shot was the Phantom that was controlled by some Elites. I was looking around one day and i heard the noise of a Phantom i looked down and i saw a phantom. I also saw the flashes of Plasma shots. I ran down the little tube like thing and i fell down into a flood area. I saw Elite bodies at the edge of the Lift and some Elite bodies were right near me. I know this must have been for looks but right when i landed I saw the Phantom start going backwards shooting until it went around a corner. Sure the bodies are there for maybe looks but I think they must have been trying to do something. Why would a Phantom send Elites into the wall?

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Posted by: joexxx55
lol the heritics and the sentinals let them out play the game and see


We're talking about Installation 05, not the Threshold that was near Installation 04. There were no Heretics aboard Installation 05.

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1000 Year war
I think thats either about the Covenant and the Flood or the Sentinels and the Flood. I think it mentions somewhere about the Flood and the Covenant fighting for quite a while and the Covenant do seem to have alot of information on the Flood. I think the flood must have been realeased by something,it seems like they have a good hold on the Quarintne Zone so maybe when the Forerunners screwed up on Delta Halo they were set free.


That is interesting, maybe the Forerunner didn't completely seal off the Flood on each installation. They managed to seal them in on Installation 04, but on Installation 05, maybe they were overtaken before they could fight them into a submission and hold them there.

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Posted by: Elite 44
The flood didnt let themselves out in Halo 2. They were all kept together in the Quarantine zone if you remember. Somehow they got their hands on In Amber Clad and got to High Charity.

Just a couple of questions I have been pondering over - 1.On the level called 100,000 year's war, when you are the Arbiter on Halo trying to retrive the Holy Icon (index), you jump out of a tunnel of some sorts and some Elites in drop pods come down. If you look up at the Sky near the Middle of that really big building, you will see two structures up in the air. Some sort of projectile is fired at one of them and it gets hit and starts to list to one side.
What is it?


Intersting. Also, once the Arbitor broke into the Quarentine zone he shut down the shield unit, allowing the flood to enter.. and escape I believe. I may be wrong.
It was my thought that the "Ship" that was shot down over the Quarantine Zone was In Amber Clad. I didn't think it could be anything else. It crashed into the Quarantine Zone and the flood repaired it, much like they tried to repair The Pillar of Automn on Instillation 4. Which explains how they got the ship and reached High Charity.


2. Why is the level called 100,000 year's war? What war is it referring to? The war between the Covenant and Flood? Or the Reclaimers war against the flood? I didn't think the Covenant had even come into contact with flood at that time.


I think they were referencing the fact 'of' the 100,000 year war. Since the flood can't be destroyed, the sentinals have been trying to control the outbreak of flood infection forms.... or maybe there is a hidden meaning. something does seem missing.
Which comes first: The carrier form or Infection form?

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Subject: Halo Fanfic: The End of a War

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This whole Flood release and Halo discovery is really too much. My bain actually hurts from reading all your guy's posts. Despite that, i'll make my own summation.

The Covenant must have found Installation 04 before the Pillar of Autumn did. As for Installation 05, I think the Covenant might have stumbled onto it when the Prophet of Regret somehow found it. I'm thinking that what Clark said makes sense, about the Forerunner not being able to contain the Flood on Installation 05, making the line 'The 100,000 Years War' kind of easily understandable.

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My views:

The Flood were out in their ranks as Combat Forums when the Arbiter lowered the shielding in the wall. Therefore it's safe to assume that the Arbiter shutting down the shield didn't release them, because they were already out and infecting. HOW they got out is a complete mystery to me, but I'm not buying the "They were already out before anyone even got there" theory. It's just so unlikely the Forerunners would make a mistake in sealing them in, and there would have been signs of them on the Regret assasination levels. I believe the "100,000 years War" is just a reference to the containment of the Flood, and how long they have been there. I also believe that the Covenant found the location of 05 on Earth, (the same way as to how they found the location to 04 from that Rock on Sigma Octanus IV) and went on from there.

Mr_Clark: Loving the story, the "history lessons" are fantastic material, but I want to ask you something. I wasn't lucky enough to get a Limited Edition Copy of Halo 2 (I will be soon, providing I can find one). Anyway, I'm assuming you found all the information on the Nine Ages of the Covenant through the Extras of the LE copy? If not, can you show me where I can read up on it? Cheers.

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Ok this doesnt have alot to do with the story but can i just comment on how truly awesum Mr Clarke actually is.
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He takes the time to read practically every other fanfic on these forums

You rock man and your story is insanely good.

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My views:

The Flood were out in their ranks as Combat Forums when the Arbiter lowered the shielding in the wall. Therefore it's safe to assume that the Arbiter shutting down the shield didn't release them, because they were already out and infecting. HOW they got out is a complete mystery to me, but I'm not buying the "They were already out before anyone even got there" theory. It's just so unlikely the Forerunners would make a mistake in sealing them in, and there would have been signs of them on the Regret assasination levels. I believe the "100,000 years War" is just a reference to the containment of the Flood, and how long they have been there. I also believe that the Covenant found the location of 05 on Earth, (the same way as to how they found the location to 04 from that Rock on Sigma Octanus IV) and went on from there.


Why would it seem unlikely that the forerunners would have all of them sealed in? I mean, if they could control all of them then why would they fire the halos in the first place? Wasn't the whole reason they fired the halos was as a last resort because they couldn't contain them? Maybe the reason they aren't on the Regret level is because Regret had just arrived.

I also tend to believe that Gravemind has been around since or before the activation on the halos by the foreruners. This would give credence to what Gravemind said about listening through rock and time (or whatever). That may also have something to do with what Cortana said about the lake not being a natural phenomenon. Maybe it was supposed to be some kind of prison for Gravemind.? - LE

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Maybe there was a small error.
You know, maybe the Sentinels were maintaining the containment areas and then they accidentally let out the Flood.

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Why would it seem unlikely that the forerunners would have all of them sealed in? I mean, if they could control all of them then why would they fire the halos in the first place? Wasn't the whole reason they fired the halos was as a last resort because they couldn't contain them? Maybe the reason they aren't on the Regret level is because Regret had just arrived.
The Forerunners were clearly technological geniuses (sp?). Indeed, I quote 'Halo: The Flood':

"Aware of the extreme danger the Flood posed, and their captivity to multiply exponentially as well as take over even advanced life forms, the ancient ones constructed the walls of their prison with great care, and trained their guards well. With nothing to feed upon, and nowhere to go the Flood lay dormant for more than a hundred thousand years."

Ok, granted, this was installation 04, but the Forerunners didn't do anything by half. The Forerunners had contained the Flood, the Halos were designed to stop them spreading in the event they were broken out.

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Posted by: DaViEsW
Ok, granted, this was installation 04, but the Forerunners didn't do anything by half. The Forerunners had contained the Flood, the Halos were designed to stop them spreading in the event they were broken out.

Just for the sake of continuing the discussion, answer one quesiton? Why did the forerunners activate the Halo's? - LE

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Good question, and I have no answer. I think that ties in with the Ark/Earth. I think that if the Forerunners failed to contain the Flood, then they'd still be out there, free before the story began.

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Posted by: DaViEsW
Good question, and I have no answer. I think that ties in with the Ark/Earth. I think that if the Forerunners failed to contain the Flood, then they'd still be out there, free before the story began.

But that's my point. Maybe they were free on some of the installations before the story began, just not on installation 04, hence the outbreak on 05 and the 100,000 years war. But it would also seem that if the flood was over running the forerunner then there would be flood in other places then just the halos. There are a lot of theories out there as to why the forerunners activated the halos but another question to ask would be, if the forerunners managed to contain the flood to the halos why would they still activate them? Another thought/theory, what if the forerunners did turn the tide against the flood and the flood in a desperate attempt to keep from getting eradicated activated the halos themselves.? That might be "pulling straws" though, because I think Penitent Tangent (sp?) stated that the forerunners were the one who activated them. But of course this in only speculation on my part. - LE

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I think the Forerunners activated the Rings because they had no other strategic option (Guilty Spark)
The Flood was upon them so they thought it best to activate the rings.

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wow... deep stuff... anywho, keep the chapters coming mr. c, and keep the discussion going guys, it's very engaging...

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Posted by: DaViEsW
Mr_Clark: Loving the story, the "history lessons" are fantastic material, but I want to ask you something. I wasn't lucky enough to get a Limited Edition Copy of Halo 2 (I will be soon, providing I can find one). Anyway, I'm assuming you found all the information on the Nine Ages of the Covenant through the Extras of the LE copy? If not, can you show me where I can read up on it? Cheers.


There are, in truth, only Seven Ages of the Covenant. Halo 2 is in the 9th Age of Reclamation because each Age carries with it a specific number of individual Ages. Like chapter 12, it was in the Second Age of Abandonment.

The only real information a person could gleam off of the Collector's Disc about the Covenant Ages is seven tablets that have pictures depicting different ages of the Covenant. The first one shows an Elite and a Prophet locked in mortal combat, and also a picture of a Forerunner structure with several Prophets standing before it. You can tell where I got some of the base ideas for Chapter 12 just by looking at the picture. Even if you don't have the Collector's Disc, you can look at HBO for the pictures of the tablets.

The site I use mostly just for general information, and what is expected to have happened in each Age is this site .

There isn't too much information on the Ages, but that's kind of good, cause it lets my twisted mind run free while writing.

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Wow, all good points from my veiw. Gotta agree with LE here, but DaVIEsw you have a strong point. The forerunners where TECH GODS, and perhaps that was there downfall. They thought too much of themselves and the flood "Found" a way escape. On installation 04, the Covenant "ALMOST" freed the flood, but it was Captain Keys that fully released the outbreak. It didn't take long for the flood to spread.
On Installation 05, we aren't as clear as to "who/what" let the flood escape.
What we do know is that:
A) Gravemind may have tiped the scale and
B) The flood seemed to only be focused in the Quarentine zone.
(I even had to make an adjustment in my story LOL).

But the Rings were fired because the Forerunners were "out of options". Perhaps things were worse on installations 1,2,3,6, and 7 ???

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this thing, this flood spreads everywhere...

Ok, had this theory on other poll(humans were on deltahalo before H2)

i think that when Cpt miranda broke in QZ she might have accidentally broke some flood cells. or force's that miranda send before him to reach index and secure area, mayby opened them. i dont think that had any open doors of any kind, so miranda would possible have few shots from frigatte to break wall and take pelicans to beachhead, 'cause of this flood would have freed themselves by breaking shot weakened doors. or beachhead is where forces advanced trough wall till other side where they were attacked by flood freed by them.

OR...

from last war against forerunners some infectionforms laid stasis, waiting possible host's to come close enough to be infected, by this way would have combatforms battling so quickly.

have ever watched what happen on the other side of tunnel where u first time encounter humanflood's and weapons?

its when u start hearing those comm-link speeches. 1tunnel there is 2marines battling against flood when they say somthing like (suppresin fire or smthing like that)

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The other thing to think about is, the Flood might not have just been on the Halo Installations. We saw in Halo 2 that where the Heretics had set up base in Threshold, that the Flood were inside and they released them.

But isnt this new group just the_ark all over again?

This is in regards to Master_Chief's new group, dedicated simply for fanfiction.

I don't think this will just be like the Ark, since this Group is dedicated for all the Bungie.net fanfiction, and not just one persons. So, if you have a story you think we'd like, join that group and post it, and you'll get some good insight from fellow writers.

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I also tend to believe that Gravemind has been around since or before the activation on the halos by the foreruners. This would give credence to what Gravemind said about listening through rock and time (or whatever). That may also have something to do with what Cortana said about the lake not being a natural phenomenon. Maybe it was supposed to be some kind of prison for Gravemind.? - LE


I agree with you on that point LE. No matter how powerful the Forerunner were, they must have feared what Gravemind was capable of. Trapping him in that lake limited his movements, that is, until the Covenant and In Amber Clad came by and gave him a means to an end.

Despite his imprisonment, Gravemind was still capable of capturing Penitent Tangent, for who knows how many thousands of years. The amount of information he managed to gleam off of the monitor must be truly mind-boggling.

Edit: Wow, a lot of people have been writing new chapters to their stuff. For everyone that sent me a PM to notify me, as soon as I have a free moment, I'll stop by your threads and read your newest additions.

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Well, Mr_C, I don't think that the base where the Heretics were originally held any Flood at all.
I think those Heretics were growing them to attack the Prophets.
I could be wrong but on the level 'The Arbiter' one Elite says: "those heretic fools! What have they done!"
I think the Heretics were planning an attack against High Charity.

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hey everybody been readin what you have been sayin and boy is that thought provoking stuff. well heres what i make of it. humans definetley have a link with the halos and forerunners as why didnt 343 take a worthy covenant on installation 04 to the library? or what are the chances that two humans have both been reclaimers? not very likely. also if the flood have been out for a 100,000 why were they not on other parts of delta halo? probally cos they were on released once humans had stepped on to a halo. oh and the 100,000 years war is the battle between the flood and sentinels/forerunners defenses (trying to get out of the prison) and here is my thesis on that gravemind is a forerunner who got attacked by the flood and then mutated in to the being that we see now. oh and just one more question where the hell did the forerunners come up with the names for the monitors? i mean 343 guilty spark and 2401 penitent tangent are just plain weird names. oh well thanks for readin.

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