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Subject: Ideas and Restrictions on Covenant vs UNSC Multiplayer
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Okay then I've seen alot of talk of Cove vs Human MP and here are some of my ideas.

I've heard alot about people being foolish and saying that the Covenant should be able to use human equipment. Honestly that goes against everything the Covenant stand for. Read the good books (Fall of Reach and First Strike) and you'll see what I mean, but back to what I was getting at.

I believe that you should be able to use the following stuff when you are the Covenant.
If it is Covenant, it's fair grabs, if it's human you won't even touch the stuff. That goes for the vehicles/ pick ups as well.

The UNSC however has some what less restrictions. Meaning they can use all UNSC equipement, the Ghost, plasma rifle, needler, plasma pistol, plasma grenades(if they are a Spartan that is), all power ups excluding Covenant health packs( if they are a Spartan), and the Banshee(if they are a Spartan). Other than that all other Covenant stuff is restricted.

Now my saying "only if they are a Spartan" leads me to my next thing. I believe we should also be able to play as more then Elites and Spartans. We should also be able to play as Grunts, Jackals, Elites, Regular Marines, Orbital Drop Shock Troopers, and Spartans. Each of which is rather balanced. Also the unit's strength will be based after that of Legendary mode, for fairness sake.

Now some may also say that the humans have the sniper rifle, Warthogs, and other advantages over the Covenant players. Well last I remember from one of the weekly updates there was mention of a scoped Covie weapon. That implies " can hit at long distances " and thus sniper weapon. Also they are getting the Shadow, the equivalent to a Warthog. Plus I'm sure Bungie will make plenty of new Covenant advantages. I've also noticed that the Jackals can use plasma rifles and now God and Bungie only know what else the different units can use as well.

I do have an idea for a ranking system where a player starts low in level and gains/ loses rank through kills/deaths. mainly for a CTF game, but that is a diiferent thread all together.

If you have any other ideas it would be appreciated. I'll post more ass well as they come to me.

  • 04.18.2004 12:55 PM PDT
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hmm i think u have good ideas but i think each teamcould use any gun on the field because some players playing covie might get mad and not like covie weps and want to use human weps. and no one wants to play as a grunt.

  • 04.18.2004 1:01 PM PDT
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The average Blue Elite is approximately 40 percent stronger than the Master Chief, which I'm sure I've told you Hikaru, what would make me want to be a Spartan over an Elite? =)

(Rough estimation that I am still working on, my numbers are on a different computer at the moment)

  • 04.18.2004 1:02 PM PDT
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I don't really like the idea of being able to be grunts and jackals and marines, I just don't think classes would work to good in this game, its just not Halo. Elites against Spartans makes sense, becasue they will both have the exact same abilities, just different skins. And I think you should be able to use whichever weapon you want, regardless of which species created it.

  • 04.18.2004 1:05 PM PDT
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i dont think that all the units are really necessary. i mean really, do you think people are going to be going 'oh man, lets get some MP goin, i cant wait to be a grunt!' ?

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Blue Elite, yes it's stronger, but the Chief received shield upgrades, plus I think the different skins could work. Some just get a shield, others don't.

Plus I want to play as a Grunt. I know I'd be good at it. I'm short and I can piss you off. Very few people have faced me without my shields when I have a plasma pistol and all that have hate my trigger finger(God bless shooting in real life for that).

And honestly it would mix things up a little. On top of that there would be a limit as to who could be what, if the server so chooses anyways, and things can be junked around.

Also if someone does not like Covie weapons then maybe they shouldn't play as the Covenant. Wow what a concept.

That is my current defense against you people.

[Edited on 4/18/2004 1:12:44 PM]

  • 04.18.2004 1:11 PM PDT
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Think of how bad you would feel after getting your ass handed to you by a 5-foot tall orange dog...

  • 04.18.2004 1:12 PM PDT
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Like -blam!- -blam!-ed -blam!- Now which words were blam and which were not?

  • 04.18.2004 1:14 PM PDT
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To be honest I would be a grunt anyday, as long as there is a covie sniper weapon. Well this is because Im a sniper whore, and no one would be able to see me. Smaller body, smaller hiding places, more headshots...

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Starwind you are a smart person. I am glad to see someone agrees with me. plus I'm pretty sure there will be a Covenant sniper. Maybe like the one on the Flagship that attacked Reach perhaps.

[Edited on 4/18/2004 1:16:07 PM]

  • 04.18.2004 1:15 PM PDT
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Honestly, will headshots make a difference with the Covie sniper? I can only see the Covie sniper being very similar to the overcharged plasma pistol... lower shields no matter what, even if it splashes your toe.

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Ouch, the weapons on the flagships are... scary. *shudders*

[Edited on 4/18/2004 1:18:04 PM]

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I think there will be penetration of the Shields doing some physical damage. Heck it may become the only Covenant weapon(other than the FRG) that can kill you with a head shot or less.

  • 04.18.2004 1:17 PM PDT
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FRG cannot kill you in one hit Hikky-poo. =) It takes 3-4 hits.

  • 04.18.2004 1:18 PM PDT
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Hey I don't care, I figure out a way to make it work. But still, if you have read "The fall of reach" There was a ship in there that used some new type of plasma weapon. It was fast and acurrate. It could be something like that. Oh yeah, an FYI I haven't read the other books so don't jump my ass about not knowing.

  • 04.18.2004 1:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sgt -blam!-t
FRG cannot kill you in one hit Hikky-poo. =) It takes 3-4 hits.


Do I own Halo PC? You know the answer. NO! I am refering to the FRG on other units/equipment from the Xbox. I was also refering to a head shot, not the body. That will kill you in one. Trust me, I did it last night with a Banshee on Co-op.

  • 04.18.2004 1:23 PM PDT
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Well, you don't own Halo PC, but I know you have it on your 'puter. =)

...but... uhh... the FRG for the Banshee only lowers your shields, I swear.

  • 04.18.2004 1:28 PM PDT
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It's been taken off to save space. And trust me Sarge. It will, but let's not argue about the damn FRG anyways. I'm just saying I expect one head or upper body shot from a Covenant sniper weapon will take out your shields plus damage you possibly even kill you. That is what would most likely happen. Or it'll bring to the edge of death, like 2 bars left.

  • 04.18.2004 1:30 PM PDT
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Yeah, Starwind, that is the weapon on the flagships we were talking about. It's frightening.

Yeah, that would make sense Hikky... why make a sniper rifle if it takes 85 shots to kill?

  • 04.18.2004 1:33 PM PDT
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I would like that if it was for the bots. Two commanders of the teams one covenant and the other human. So one spartan and one elite that are controlled by players. Then you could have a squad of bots that correspond with what side you are one. Marines with the spartan and covenant with the elite. I think it would be very fair because we have all seen marines get taken down by grunts and jackals. Then it would be the same rules except for commanders. So a commander can take weapon, vehicles of the opposite side.

  • 04.18.2004 1:38 PM PDT
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Sounds interesting as an extra mode for those with/out Xbox live.

  • 04.18.2004 1:44 PM PDT
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That would be awsome if if you can use covenant and UNSC troopers in MP mode. You would be able to pick what kind of person {alien} you could play with like sgt. Johnson or a grunt.

  • 04.18.2004 1:45 PM PDT
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You see that is what I am going for. Some people who honestly want to play around as other people. Becuase I'll tell you, there have been so many times when I've gone, " Man it'd be great to be a Jackal for once. " and stuff like that. Want I'm going for is different things you can play as, that's all....well maybe more, but um... yeah.

  • 04.18.2004 1:48 PM PDT
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When you play MP mode you should be able to pick up power ups like a jackals shield or an covenant plasma sword. When you play MP mode you should have teams like you are the MC and you can create a team of six to twenty soilders for both teams.So you can have a challenge.

  • 04.18.2004 2:00 PM PDT
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Another great idea!

  • 04.18.2004 2:00 PM PDT

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