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Humanity shares a common desire: To explore. And as the cosmos will, without a doubt be the last frontier of exploration, I begin to wonder what will become of our solar system once efficient space travel has been established. As population continues to grow rapidly on earth, scientists will likely focus on stabilizing Mars' atmosphere in order to sustain human life. But whats next?

[Edited on 2/4/2005 5:20:07 PM]

  • 02.04.2005 5:09 PM PDT

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Ever read the Foundation series?

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Posted by: Kingcream
Humanity shares a common desire: To explore. And, as the cosmos will be, without a doubt the last frontier of exploration, I begin to wonder what will become of our solar system once efficient space travel has been established. As population continues to grow rapidly on earth, scientists will likely focus on stabilizing Mars' atmosphere in order to sustain human life. But whats next?


We're gonna explore the galaxy in the year 7667 and find life on other planets and they'll follow us to earth and kill us all and make us slaves of their alien race.. But after destroying each planet on the way.

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Posted by: MCs Brother
Ever read the Foundation series?


Yup....

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Posted by: Kingcream
Humanity shares a common desire: To explore. And, as the cosmos will be, without a doubt the last frontier of exploration, I begin to wonder what will become of our solar system once efficient space travel has been established. As population continues to grow rapidly on earth, scientists will likely focus on stabilizing Mars' atmosphere in order to sustain human life. But whats next?


We're gonna explore the galaxy in the year 7667 and find life on other planets and they'll follow us to earth and kill us all and make us slaves of their alien race.. But after destroying each planet on the way.


meaningfull words............very meaningfull

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[quote]Posted by: Kingcream
Humanity shares a common desire: To explore. And, as the cosmos will be, without a doubt the last frontier of exploration, I begin to wonder what will become of our solar system once efficient space travel has been established. As population continues to grow rapidly on earth, scientists will likely focus on stabilizing Mars' atmosphere in order to sustain human life. But whats next?


We're gonna explore the galaxy in the year 7667 and find life on other planets and they'll follow us to earth and kill us all and make us slaves of their alien race.. But after destroying each planet on the way.


It's just a joke......... I'm not that stupid or weird.



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I suppose Mars is not the only planet that could potentially sustain human life.
Observe Venus:
The entire planet is ravaged by volcanic activity, due to the thick atmosphere (which traps heat). As we speak, anyone standing within it would literally fry. But suppose we depleted a degree of Venus' atmosphere, and reached the desired point of heat intake. What then? Would it be possible to incorporate Ozone, Nitrogen, Carbon Dioxide, Oxygen etc....?

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The russians intend to visit in 2014 and the usa in 2030 but to permanently colonise? Technology has a way to go yet.

  • 02.04.2005 6:11 PM PDT

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The Wheel, I don't know my history, Colonize the US, Industrial Revolution, Computers, The Internet, Mars/Moon Colonization. Sounds good to me. I'd love to live on Mars, or the Moon - It would have a better view.

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being overrun by covenent forces?the hell with that im just gonna go find the masta chief to take those aliens on

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Posted by: Color Printer
Posted by: MCs Brother
Ever read the Foundation series?


Yup....

You know, I heard that the mods were robots...

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Posted by: HaloFREAK99635
Posted by: Kingcream
Humanity shares a common desire: To explore. And, as the cosmos will be, without a doubt the last frontier of exploration, I begin to wonder what will become of our solar system once efficient space travel has been established. As population continues to grow rapidly on earth, scientists will likely focus on stabilizing Mars' atmosphere in order to sustain human life. But whats next?


We're gonna explore the galaxy in the year 7667 and find life on other planets and they'll follow us to earth and kill us all and make us slaves of their alien race.. But after destroying each planet on the way.


I don't think humans will survive that long. Take a look at population growth patterns, increasing waste and water and air pollution. Scientists say that in about 20 years, polar bears in the Arctic will start dying because of Global Warming.Humans are selfish. We kill other animals for our needs and drive them out of their habitats for stupid reaons such as money. What will happen to us in the next 100 years?

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Posted by: Kingcream
Humanity shares a common desire: To explore. And, as the cosmos will be, without a doubt the last frontier of exploration, I begin to wonder what will become of our solar system once efficient space travel has been established. As population continues to grow rapidly on earth, scientists will likely focus on stabilizing Mars' atmosphere in order to sustain human life. But whats next?


We're gonna explore the galaxy in the year 7667 and find life on other planets and they'll follow us to earth and kill us all and make us slaves of their alien race.. But after destroying each planet on the way.


I don't think humans will survive that long. Take a look at population growth patterns, increasing waste and water and air pollution. Scientists say that in about 20 years, polar bears in the Arctic will start dying because of Global Warming.Humans are selfish. We kill other animals for our needs and drive them out of their habitats for stupid reaons such as money. What will happen to us in the next 100 years?


You'll never know though. We could survive THAT long only though if we stop polluting the air and dumping wastesin ocean and pollution in large numbers. THe ozone layer is getting killed and if only we can survive that long, we can discover the true meaning of life and earth and pollution. Not killing each other. Stopping extensive amounts of pollution and dumping is a distint dream land........

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Damn invisios. They're getting more annoying by the second.

  • 02.04.2005 7:06 PM PDT

Twelve Large ²

An army of sheep led by a lion would defeat an army of lions led by a sheep.

Posted by: MJOLNIR MARK V
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Posted by: Kingcream
Humanity shares a common desire: To explore. And, as the cosmos will be, without a doubt the last frontier of exploration, I begin to wonder what will become of our solar system once efficient space travel has been established. As population continues to grow rapidly on earth, scientists will likely focus on stabilizing Mars' atmosphere in order to sustain human life. But whats next?


We're gonna explore the galaxy in the year 7667 and find life on other planets and they'll follow us to earth and kill us all and make us slaves of their alien race.. But after destroying each planet on the way.


I don't think humans will survive that long. Take a look at population growth patterns, increasing waste and water and air pollution. Scientists say that in about 20 years, polar bears in the Arctic will start dying because of Global Warming.Humans are selfish. We kill other animals for our needs and drive them out of their habitats for stupid reaons such as money. What will happen to us in the next 100 years?


We'll do what we do best. Destroy -blam!-.. Flood Style.

  • 02.04.2005 7:43 PM PDT

Posted by: MJOLNIR MARK V
I don't think humans will survive that long. Take a look at population growth patterns, increasing waste and water and air pollution. Scientists say that in about 20 years, polar bears in the Arctic will start dying because of Global Warming. Humans are selfish. We kill other animals for our needs and drive them out of their habitats for stupid reaons such as money. What will happen to us in the next 100 years?


I have no doubt that humanity as we know it will be gone within the next 500 years at this rate. Just look at how much has happened in the last hundred years, so much destruction in the name of progress.

That being said, Global warming is a hoax. A mere tale used to frighten children at night. Ironically enough, in the 80s a single volcanic eruption put more pollutants into the air than man has in ALL of his time on earth. We had not part in this event, but it just happened- it's the way nature has always been. Just look at the ice ages, for example. There have been (last I heard) around a dozen ice ages during earth's history. Did man cause them? Of course not. Did man cause the destruction of the dinosaurs? No, he didn't, and he didn't cause any of Earth's other cataclysmic events, either. They just happened. Nature is anything but a picturesque place, almost all life on Earth has been destroyed many times (at one point 95% of all life was dead, and this was even before the demise of the dinosaurs). Every single time, life has continued, no matter how horrific the damage to earth.

Alright, to the point. Man has only inhabited Earth for a fraction of a second relatively speaking. We could be gone tomorrow and we'd be forgotten, Earth would rebuild as it always has throughout history. It's going to happen eventually, so why worry about it in the first place? Just accept it and move on with your life, because it's out of your hands.

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Here are my views. The Earth and humanity on Earth were a sort of experiment. We started off with nothing, evolved, and learned to look after ourselves. However, often things have been invented and have been great at the time, but after 20 years have been found out to be lethel. Take coal power for example. It is relatively cheap, and provides sufficient energy for whole towns. In the 40s it was great, and just about every nation (including the 3rd world nations) heavily invested in it. But now, in the 21st century, we clearly see that it is extremely damaging to the atmoshpere. It is also very hard to change to different power sources now (such as nuclear power, probably the most green and efficient source there is) because most countries rely on it. Of course, rich nations that can afford to change will, but compared to the amount of 3rd world countries using it, 1 country coverting makes little difference.

And so, as we slowly eat up our resources and unknowingly plan our own destruction, our only option is to make it the next time. You see, the problem with our world is that we didn't know. We had no idea how bad coal was, and we didn't realise that nuclear power could have been our savior. (Before you all start you anti nuclear power speak, let me say this. For the cost of 40 grams worth of substance an entire town can be supplied, without gases being emitted. The only thing left to do is dispose of nuclear waste, which, in our advanced society, is no problem anymore.) We didn't know about asbestos, and didn't think ahead about car emissions. This is why our escape route should be planned sooner than later.

Colonising Mars would be the first step. Large space stations would have to be constructed in orbit around earth, by sending up large NP rockets full of supplies up. This would take many years, but once the platform has been built, then it could be filled with the future occupants of Mars. Colonising would be difficult. The platform would stay in orbit for months while building robots would construct the habitat for the colonialists. They would then move down to the surface, and commence improving the habitat. They would need air aids to survive at first, but after the first few yaers they would have to commence the construction of Air and carbon dioxide producing factories. The supplies would be arriving all the time, as similar platforms would have left shortly after the first. These factories would chemically react substances to produce vast amounts of Oxygen and carbon dioxide, to strengthen the atmosphere.

In the end, there would be 2 layers of gas. The carbon dioxide would have sunk to the bottom, while the oxgygen would be on top. This would call for high raised skyscrapers to tower above into the air rich environment. Vegetation would be housed in the lower sections of the buildings to use the carbon dioxide up and produce more air. Once the cities have been established then more humans may arrive.

The new human society on Mars would eliminate all of the mistakes made in the past. It would be mainly solar powered at first, but then nuclear PPs would be established, and there would be an abundance of power.

Mars would be a stepping stone to colonise other worlds as well, as the low gravity environment would easily propel enormous ships into space. And so, by eliminating the mistakes of the past, we could make a fresh start on the red planet.

In case you are wondering where I got this from, I did a high school science project on the subject, so most of this stuff is copied and pasted. mmkay? mmkay.

  • 02.04.2005 9:27 PM PDT

quit trying to act smart king you might get a headach from trying to think

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Mars is definitely the best choice for colonization at this point. Create a genetically engineered algae or bacteria and give it a couple centuries to spread and convert the Martian atmosphere and we'll have another Earth, albeit without vegetation or liquid water.

To all you environmentalists: the Earth's magnetosphere is going to flip in 50-100 years, and when it does all your plants and animals (and us) are going to be bathed in solar radiation... Earth will suddenly look a lot like Mars and everything will die. So screw the environment.

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And yet, no planets will ever house human life as efficiently as earth. Venus is a far-fetched theory. Though it may be possible, we are looking at another 100 years before humanity has the technology to alter its atmosphere. As for Mars, the red planet still remains vastly hostile. With temperatures ranging from -137 to 37 degrees Celcius, we would only survive in the regions closer to the equator. Soil fertility would be another major issue. Mars is nothing but rock, ice, and rust. It would take years of hard work before trees could ever be planted. Observe any one of the volcanic islands in the Atlantic Ocean (ie. St. Helena, Ascension, Cape Verde etc....). Even with the right climate, it can take decades for volcanic rock to loosen and adapt for denser vegetation to thrive. The same is for Mars.

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Emm... No one has yet come up with a viable way to get rid of nuclear waste by the way, not even in America or Europe. The only way anyone knows is to bury it underground and leave it for a few thousand years, while all the time it leaves a potentially lethal mix relativley acessible to disaster, or terrorist attack. I personally dont want a cloud of atomised (as in turned into tiny particles in the air, not actually reduced to it atoms) nuclear waste anywhere near me. The other way top despose of it is using it in DU (depleted uranium) ammunition, but when used they atomise, causing a smaller scale but similar problem. Look at the increased rate of cancer in Iraq in the areas that DU was used. Also Nuclear is totally economically unsound. The only reason they survive is due to government subsidies, as they cost so -blam!- much to run. If they competed openly with wind, for instance, wind would be cheaper (though gas and possibly coal are cheaper than renewables), and the companies running the things would go down. Basically it possibly might provide a stop gap to cut emissions, but it can only be that, as there are inherant problems with fission power.

Global Warming a hoax? And who told you that? The vast majority of respectable climatologists say it is occuring, the mainstream debate being about how soon until it is too late to change much. There are those that disagree but frequenly they have alterior motives to their research (such as funding from groups such as Esso), though it is possible they are right, but surely it is better to act then find out it was unneccessary than not to act and find out its too late. The point about the volcano I am not sure about, as I dont know where your sources have come from, but it *may* be true, though I think highly unlikely, though they do ahve the ability to spew out large amounts of gases, but also have led to the cooling of the planet (dust into the atmosphere blocking sun slightly) and are in fact one of thoeries of what contributed to the extinction of dinosaurs. Btw if our planet should be doing anything climate wise, it should be cooling down, as we are still in the middle os an ice age, though a warm spell of it (and and it is meant to go cold again before it ends properly), so therefore the fact we are warming up is not according to what should happen. True, life will survive almost no matter what happens (unless we humans actually phisically destroy it), but I think I am fairly comfortable with the climate as it is a the mo, and so therefore any change would be uncomfortable for me (though if at all, it wouldnt affect me for long due to the time scale involved) and future generations.

And BTW the magnetic field is not going to flip in 50-100 years. It is true that it does this, but it doesnt leave us bear to solar radiation, as otherwise earth would be a lifeless deseart, as it has happened before. Also it is not due for a long time, we will get warning signs before it happens, and none suggest one is due so soon. There certainly be higher levels of radiation during the switching period, as it is severly weakened, but life on earth would survive, and we have the inginuity to survive through it too.


Hmm... I am a bit tired at the mo, so if some of the logic is not well explained or some of the stuff isnt right, or the spelling etc, its due to tiredness.

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Posted by: MJOLNIR MARK V
Posted by: HaloFREAK99635
Posted by: Kingcream
Humanity shares a common desire: To explore. And, as the cosmos will be, without a doubt the last frontier of exploration, I begin to wonder what will become of our solar system once efficient space travel has been established. As population continues to grow rapidly on earth, scientists will likely focus on stabilizing Mars' atmosphere in order to sustain human life. But whats next?


We're gonna explore the galaxy in the year 7667 and find life on other planets and they'll follow us to earth and kill us all and make us slaves of their alien race.. But after destroying each planet on the way.


I don't think humans will survive that long. Take a look at population growth patterns, increasing waste and water and air pollution. Scientists say that in about 20 years, polar bears in the Arctic will start dying because of Global Warming.Humans are selfish. We kill other animals for our needs and drive them out of their habitats for stupid reaons such as money. What will happen to us in the next 100 years?


Your right we'll probably get in a big war and kill our selfs

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Ever read the Foundation series?


Yup....

You know, I heard that the mods were robots...

Bahahahaha... Someone else was there for that bander between goweb and I... I thought they'd all forgotten *tear comes to eye*

Tristan ;-)

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