Halo 1 & 2 for PC
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Subject: No Halo 2 for PC!
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geeze u guys are all sayin that u thinnk i know nothing about computers, geeze i have know the specs for the xbox for years, i know the highest specs you can get for a computer, maybe this will make it clearer, halo on xbox used barely any of its power, now when they ported it for it to run at its best you needed some reletively high specs, now for halo 2 which uses everything the xbox can muster, it would make the best specs for halo pc look like the 1950's (and geeze for all you concused trolls who would take that seriously, it was a joke) so basically when the ported halo 1, the best specs were hight, if they port halo 2, the specs would be huge.

true some of the better computers could run it, but not at its best, thus, it wouldnt look as good as the xbox cause its not at its best.

and, who said they will amke tons of money, halo pc only sold a little over half the amount that was sold on the xbox. ive already posted about that topic so go dig it up.

  • 02.05.2005 1:42 PM PDT
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Sorry to bust your idea about Halo 1 being too demanding for PC. Ask Darthbob. He has a Radeon 9200 with some other average specs, and he runs Halo better than XBox. A 9200 card is like 4 years old right now.

If you've played Halo PC on a MEDIOCRE PC at 640x480, it will run at about 50+ frames per second. That's much better than xbox, because xbox runs at about half that resolution with a cap of 30 frames per second. Sad how a low end Dell can beat the XBox, huh?

In addition, true some of the better computers could run it, but not at its best, thus, it wouldnt look as good as the xbox cause its not at its best.

Are you on crack? The best computers out there, like mine, run games like Half Life 2 and Doom 3, which are way more graphically intense than Halo 2, at 1200x1600 resolution with max graphics, and still get close to 80 frames per second. Note that the port for Doom 3 from PC to XBox involves making the graphics less intense and removing bump mapping many textures, as well as inferior shaders. what does that tell you? XBox is weaker than PC, so the games must get toned down.


All you are asking for is to be laughed at. You don't even have evidence to back up what you say. You said you know some stuff about computers. Great, so do I, and I just proved to you why many PC's are better than XBox. Even an average PC beats the XBox. You know nothing about the PC if you happen to believe otherwise....especially if you believe that a top-end PC, which is over 6 times faster than XBox, cannot handle Halo 2 in the same, and even better way. I mean, come on, the XBox is already 4 years old.

Well, actually, that whole paragraph was pointless. *sigh*, the XBox fanboys will never hear the 7ru7h.

[Edited on 2/5/2005 3:04:09 PM]

  • 02.05.2005 2:59 PM PDT
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Oh, they 'hear' it, but they can't accept it. Though I think I am in a minority here since I have an Xbox sitting about 3 feet away from me as I type this, and two PS2s in my living room.

Fact is, Halo PC is still on many Top 10 sales lists from the various magazines, not bad for a 4 year old game; it seems to have the same longevity as StarCraft or the original half life and it's add ons.

Given that it took about 2 years to see Halo PC after it was released with the Xbox launch, it will probably take at least that long (maybe less) to see it on the PC.

And tell me, what exactly will change once it is released? Will Xboxes around the world suddenly explode or stop working? Will your copy of Halo 2 suddenly become less special? Or could it be that you fanboys suddenly will have one less thing to brag about- as if bragging about it means anything, since I'm betting that a lot of people who come here already have an Xbox and Halo 2, just a hunch, can't prove it tho'.

  • 02.05.2005 3:41 PM PDT
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question: If you lock the frame rate to 30 fps, would it stay at that even if you had a crappy video card? Or does that mean that it will never exceed 30 fps?

  • 02.05.2005 4:03 PM PDT
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The best things come to those who wait
Patience daniel son

  • 02.05.2005 4:09 PM PDT
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Posted by: GreenxPanda
question: If you lock the frame rate to 30 fps, would it stay at that even if you had a crappy video card? Or does that mean that it will never exceed 30 fps?

The latter. It's an upper-boundary not a lower one, sorry if that disappoints you. Press Ctrl + F12 in game to see your FPS. It's the fluctating number, the static one if your refresh rate.

And about what that other guy said... using Windows Task Manager, I was able to monitor my system resources while playing Halo. Running at 1152x864 windowed mode (nearly double xbox res) and with everything on full (thus making it look a great deal better than xbox) it used approximately 22% of my CPU out of combat, and 40% when lots of stuff was happening. It also used 448 MB of my 1024 MB of RAM, less than half, and it would've been a lot less if I was in fullscreen mode. Considering my CPU is about 4-6 times more powerful than the Xbox's, and that I have 8 times as much ram, 4 times larger graphics card with a much faster GPU, what in God's name makes you think your little toy can run Halo 2 faster than my PC?

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  • 02.05.2005 5:43 PM PDT
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Posted by: Kier Nimmion
I'm betting that a lot of people who come here already have an Xbox and Halo 2, just a hunch, can't prove it tho'.


I have Halo 2 and XBox. I don't play XBL that much, not as much as Halo PC.

  • 02.05.2005 6:22 PM PDT
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skipppy, they're computer illiterate morons. all your efforts in comparing ram and speeds, are wasted on them.
let's try this; thinking it out:
what is an xbox?
it's a gaming system like no other. Why? because Microsoft made it unlike any other. they built it like a computer. so, essientaly, an xbox is a computer, but with a crap OS that lets it do nothing but play games, music and DVD's, all of which can be don on a computer, by the way.
true, microsoft made the xbox top of the line, and it is a pretty sweet gaming console.
however, this was all quite a few years ago (about 5; i forget how many).
however, computer hardware is updated about once every month, making everything before it outdated. since there are 12 months in a year, and 5 years since the xbox came out, why, the xbox is....crap...by today's standards.
so a top of the line computer today could easily outstrip it. in fact, a crap computer (can be bought for $500 with no prior building exprence) could outstrip it. true, that's $200 more than an xbox, but with a computer, you can do all you can with an xbox, PLUS reashearch, write, print, buy crap, and loads of other stuff.

  • 02.05.2005 6:55 PM PDT
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Posted by: Iamwhie
Since there are 12 months in a year, and 5 years since the xbox came out, why, the xbox is....crap.

Best maths lesson EVER. I was expecting some sort of quantitative result of your little date calculation but no, you summed it up Perfectly. Here have a cookie.

And yeah, you're right, they probably wouldn't understand anything of what I said. Anyone who does is already smart enough not to need telling. Pretty cool though, how Halo only uses 20-40% of my comp, I'm quite impressed. Well it makes me feel better about being penniless anyway, lol. Worth it though. The only game I have issues with is X2: The Threat, but to be fair, that's just graphic-extreme. I can run it smooth enough 1280x1024 with AA and BM's but cinematics are a bit demanding with all the particle effects, shadows, bump-maps, anti-aliasing... lol. In the benchmark I'm able to get 49fps average at those settings, 57fps at 1024x768, or 51fps at 1280x1024 with no AA. And for those of you who're thinking 'What's the point?'... well it looks god-damn gorgeous. X2 is the most beautiful space sim EVER.

  • 02.05.2005 7:20 PM PDT
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The world would have to be stupid to actual believe that the XBox graphics are better than the average PC. Seriously, the average PC cost about $500. An Xbox cost about $125. The average Dell comes with Pentium 4, way faster than Xbox's slow crappy CPU. The PC has got more powerful graphics cards than the Xbox's outdated junk. PC has more solid controls, better aiming, which leads to better gameplay, better visuals, better performance, better games! Screw the Xbox. If Microsoft doesn't make a Halo2 for PC they're just dumb. They did release a graphics update for HaloPC though. Giving it better textures.

  • 02.05.2005 8:43 PM PDT
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The Xbox uses a modified GeForce 3, (IMO, it's more like a GeFore 2.5), not a crappy card, just older. The 'Box does very well for itself- I haven't seen anything modded that much since the Amiga. Hell, you can even get it chipped out with a 1.4 Ghz CPU and 128 MB of RAM, called the 'DreamBox', kinda cool, if expensive, if you asked me.

In the long run, I'd pretty much always go for a PC Game than a console, though not so much lately- I liked both Doom 3 and Half Life 2, but they didn't rock my world.,

Personally, I like my Xbox- it's a cool green box, and built way better than my PS2. (Note to Sony: Step up the build quality, guys!)

  • 02.06.2005 12:47 PM PDT
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I read in a mag any way that halo 2 most likley gonna come out this year for pc. And i really dont see why not bungie would be rolling in even more money

  • 02.06.2005 1:11 PM PDT
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Yep, it's inevitable that Halo 2 will hit the PC. NOTHING CAN STOP IT!!!11!!111!Shift+1!!!

  • 02.06.2005 2:13 PM PDT
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i got two thngs to sum up the xbox vs pc discusion
1.http://nikon.bungie.org/misc/stuntmutt.html?month=09&year =2004&image=37
2.http://nikon.bungie.org/misc/stuntmutt.html?month=09&year =2004&image=38

  • 02.06.2005 4:53 PM PDT
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^^^^ :D

  • 02.06.2005 5:40 PM PDT
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Those Master chiefs looked funny.

  • 02.06.2005 7:21 PM PDT
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Heyyo,

If they made HaloPC to PC standards, not enhanced $box standards then yes HaloPC would run a lot better. Half Life 2 looks incredible, plays incredible, and overall is just incredible. New game, better graphics, better framerate than HaloPC??? why? HaloPC port turned out like junk.

Project Torlan will make Halo to the UT2k4 engine. There's some talented and dedicated people working on that mod. They're gonna have it all, PC standard tetures that look high quality, bump mapping, specular lighting with fast shanders (and doesn't bog down your computer to death..), and up to 32 players (FINALLY!), and you can be any character you want. from little flood dudes, to marines, to hunters. This'll definately be a fun mod. Give it time, it'll blow HaloPC away. The controls for it are already better than HaloPC. The banshee has a much more advanced and harder control system, so dogfights will be less of spinning around eachother, and more actually shooting eachother. They also plan to add the Pelican dropship, which'll be hella sweet, and other vehicles. I already bought UT2k4 to prepare to play this mod, and from the packs they released? I'm already loving this. :)

google it: Project Torlan

read up, check the new pics posted on the forum, and know this's the future of Halo gaming on the PC since Halo2PC will take forever to come to PC.

  • 02.07.2005 12:53 PM PDT
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ThE_MarD, now that mod is really bad@$$, I've been playing it since after I dumped Halo PC and Halo CE. Until Bungie gets their stuff together, Halo PC is probably be in the trash can and since they pretty much abandon the PC community, no use in buying their games.

  • 02.07.2005 2:13 PM PDT
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holy sweet! that the best mod i've ever seen.
great... now i have to buy UT2K4. anyone have a spare 50 bucks?
(ps i realy like the playing as infection form part)

  • 02.07.2005 3:14 PM PDT
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I saw that mod in it's earliest of stages, and I wasn't too impressed. I just checked back and spent the last 3 hours browsing their site, downloading a watching stuff... my mouth frequently dropping open and me swearing in disbelief of how blamming awesome it's going to be. We talking every good thing about Halo has, without the cr4p bits, with more options and possibilties than you can shake a very large Bungie-shaped stick at. HUT has the potential to not only be better than Halo but better than Halo 2 should it ever come to PC. The mod already has up to date graphics like bump-mapping, they're making the textures better, you can play as ANYTHING from Halo 1/2 like flood, covenant (all races), marines, even FoeHammer, aswell as variations of the MC and Female MC. Yes, Female MC. Add to this Pelicans in multiplayer, new maps, loads more gametypes like flood invasion (see how long you can survive kind-o-thing) and better vehicle control (using WASD with mouse for independant turret control). Halo UT looks set to totally out-stage the game from which it is inspired. There's also talk of them extracting Halo 2's xbox content, updating it and making a Halo 2 UT mod, at this rate before Halo 2 PC comes out. IF that happens then I really, really won't care what Bungie want to do about Halo 2 PC.

  • 02.07.2005 6:50 PM PDT
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i know that this is the wrong place to post this but since no one read my post and helped hear it is again: I cant get my installer to work... any ideas please help! (i have my cd and my code)

  • 02.07.2005 6:52 PM PDT
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I dont care about H2 for PC anymore cause iam just going to get an Xbox.

  • 02.07.2005 7:05 PM PDT

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