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Subject: Half-Life 2 graphics compared to Halo 2
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With the videos and information we've been given about Halo 2 it's truly hard to tell what the enviroments and animations will finally look like and also how the physics will work. After reading some things in the OXM article and from watching videos from both, Half-Life 2 seems to look better with small details definitley accenting environments, of course Halo/Halo 2 is in it's own league as far as replay value and HL2 really can't touch it, and HL2's graphics are entirely finished. In my opinion the current Halo 2 videos are just a tip of the iceberg, and the visuals will come very close if not meet HL2. It's not like it's ever gonna be better than Halo, you just can't touch the Master Chief.

  • 06.20.2004 12:46 PM PDT
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Halo is so much more than graphics.

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Posted by: BoZo_
Halo is so much more than graphics.


I agree completely, I'm just wondering what Bungie has up it's sleeve. If you've seen HL2 though it is beautiful, I think Bungie will equal it. Like I said HL2 will never be close to competing with the multiplayer or replay value of Halo 2.

  • 06.20.2004 12:52 PM PDT
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Half Life 2 Story line is Booooooring. ANd Im sure itll continuie to be so.

  • 06.20.2004 12:58 PM PDT

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Half Life 2 I would say is more visually appealing due to its graphical effects and havoc engine (i think its havoc). Anyway, Halo IS much more than graphics I agree. Its about having fun in a balanced game where skill prevails. Its also about brilliant battles where your the star and about fragging your friends and laughing in their faces.

Thats why I think Halo2 will be better than Half Life 2. Sure HalfLife is cool with all its strategic gameplay and neat features but Halo2s more about having fun rather than planning your way through each level.

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And halo's Co-op mode was alot better. Lol

Seriously. I'm sick of Nintendo fanboys who play computer games saying "half life is so much better than Halo or Halo 2."

Man I hate it. I'm sure that both games will be fun to play. (well.... maybe...) but I am looking forward to Halo 2, not Half life. Half life can keep the better graphics. I could care less.

  • 06.20.2004 1:27 PM PDT
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Graphics: Not Comparable Between the two. Halo 2 Owns.

  • 06.20.2004 1:28 PM PDT

Each game runs on completely different hardware. This gives HL2 a leg up on any game running on older hardware (Xbox); therefore, we can't really judge which one has the "best" graphics because it isn't a level playing field. If you look at the games as if they are art or paintings, then I would have to say that Halo 2 is in a league of it's own. No other gaming company has the quality artist that Bungie does, and it shows in their products. Bungie goes beyond a graphics engine by adding personal touches to the look of the game. I know, I know, every company adds their personal look/touch to their game, but Bungie's artist have come up with something that surpases the "look" of the game. It really is timeless. I still see the first Halo as one of the best looking games out their, and I don't think that will change over time:)

[Edited on 6/20/2004 2:00:38 PM]

  • 06.20.2004 1:59 PM PDT
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Posted by: Final Spartan
And halo's Co-op mode was alot better. Lol

Seriously. I'm sick of Nintendo fanboys who play computer games saying "half life is so much better than Halo or Halo 2."

Man I hate it. I'm sure that both games will be fun to play. (well.... maybe...) but I am looking forward to Halo 2, not Half life. Half life can keep the better graphics. I could care less.


Im a Nintendo fanboy, I love Nintendo, but I don't like Half-Life, the first one, and I really don't think I'll bother playing the second one unless I get it for free for something. Doom 3 will be awsome though. But of course, we all know what the best First Person Shooter is, it will be interesting once all three games come out, which ones will rise to the top. Halo2, Half-Life 2, or Doom3. Im sure my favorite will be Halo2.

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see the only thing that my life has to do with Half Life is i play DoD, thats it..and Half Life's story on PC is just so -blam!-, ugh...frikin horrible, but Doom was the and still is the Father of all FPSs...i meen cmon, it just is..and Doom 3 will own, ive seen badass trailors on it...but NOTHING COMPARES TO H2...like yall said, the replay value even for Halo CE was awesome, pple still hook up and play Sys Link, or XBconnect or GameSpy..after 3 years of it being out, its still the best game out...so awesome...and i can only imagine how long H2 will last..snce it is the last..lol

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Posted by: ash55
Half Life 2 I would say is more visually appealing due to its graphical effects and havoc engine (i think its havoc). Anyway, Halo IS much more than graphics I agree. Its about having fun in a balanced game where skill prevails. Its also about brilliant battles where your the star and about fragging your friends and laughing in their faces.

Thats why I think Halo2 will be better than Half Life 2. Sure HalfLife is cool with all its strategic gameplay and neat features but Halo2s more about having fun rather than planning your way through each level.


I believe that it is the Source engine.

  • 06.20.2004 2:27 PM PDT

SB-117

Oky doky.

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Silly question.... :D

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It will be interesting to see how the two games compare once HL2 is ported to the XBOX, when the 2 are on a level playing field in terms of technology.

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Half-Life doesnt make a lick of sense! How can a nerdy scientist with a ponytail take on:
1:The United States Military
2:The CIA,FBI, and assasins with silenced 9mm pistols
3:An entire race of wierd ass aliens

I mean COME ON! That's just a LITTLE unrealistic don't you think?
We actually KNOW why the Master Cheif can kick everyone's ass:

1:He has near perfect genes
2:He was kidnapped at age 6 and trained in the military until he was 14
3:He was outfitted with a dozen cybernetic implants
4:Trained even more in the most impossible missions the military could imagine
5:Given the Mark V Mjolnir Armor

MC could kick nerdy scientist ass all day. =)

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i dont like HL2's graphics at all..

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Bozos got it down. Halo is so much more than graphics. And if you don't understand that then you are truley playing halo for all the wrong reasons and should get the hell out of the U.S.A.

  • 06.20.2004 6:27 PM PDT
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Half Life 2 will be sweet. I hate Doom, but just my opinion. Halo 2 will be cool. You have to give Half Life some props though, i mean its one of the most played multiplayer games on teh PC...

  • 06.20.2004 6:35 PM PDT
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Posted by: Halo_Prodigy
With the videos and information we've been given about Halo 2 it's truly hard to tell what the enviroments and animations will finally look like and also how the physics will work. After reading some things in the OXM article and from watching videos from both, Half-Life 2 seems to look better with small details definitley accenting environments, of course Halo/Halo 2 is in it's own league as far as replay value and HL2 really can't touch it, and HL2's graphics are entirely finished. In my opinion the current Halo 2 videos are just a tip of the iceberg, and the visuals will come very close if not meet HL2. It's not like it's ever gonna be better than Halo, you just can't touch the Master Chief.


Not to be mean, nasty or anything like that. We have not seen what Halo2's Single player will be like in true movie fasion. We have only seen screenies and renders since E3 2003. So we have no real hard core graphics view of SP. As well bungie has said the they "toned down" the graphics in MP.As much as I would hate ot say HL2 is gonna out do Halo2 I don't know. Also the only reson I will even consider getting HL2 will be for Counter- Strike 2.

Spout as much crap as you want about HL being a great game. Realy the only ppl who play it any more in any great number are CS players and Team fortess players. And those will be what make ppl buy HL2. Is to play those game. Sorry Valve but you got shot out of the air.

  • 06.20.2004 6:43 PM PDT
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halo 2 has AMAZING graphics for a CONSOLE, but for a PC? For a PC, Halo 2 hasnt scratched the surface...

  • 06.20.2004 6:47 PM PDT
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Posted by: DrumBum213
Half Life 2 will be sweet. I hate Doom, but just my opinion. Halo 2 will be cool. You have to give Half Life some props though, i mean its one of the most played multiplayer games on teh PC...

Half-Life isnt the most played game on the PC... Its MODS are! HL would be nothing without its mods! And its sad. PC games truely depend on their mods to be a good game, while console games depend on the game itself.

People on other forums say HL2 will kill Halo 2 because it will have Counter-Strike, and all other mods running on the Source Engine.... I will bet $10000000 that the ACTUAL game itself wont touch Halo 2. They're all like "but HL2 will have tons of mods and H2 wont have any!!" Well, h2 doesnt need mods to be a great game, unlike HL2...

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i dont like HL2's graphics at all..

lol they are really good, what do u have against them?

Xbox and PC cant be compared graphics wise, of course PC is going to win because it has alot more options and better hardware.

Also, why are HL2 and Halo 2 competing? They are coming for both the PC and Xbox. Buy both! The only competition which matters is Xbox game vs. PS2 game.

  • 06.20.2004 6:56 PM PDT
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Posted by: Mr Homicide
Half-Life doesnt make a lick of sense! How can a nerdy scientist with a ponytail take on:
1:The United States Military
2:The CIA,FBI, and assasins with silenced 9mm pistols
3:An entire race of wierd ass aliens

I mean COME ON! That's just a LITTLE unrealistic don't you think?
We actually KNOW why the Master Cheif can kick everyone's ass:

1:He has near perfect genes
2:He was kidnapped at age 6 and trained in the military until he was 14
3:He was outfitted with a dozen cybernetic implants
4:Trained even more in the most impossible missions the military could imagine
5:Given the Mark V Mjolnir Armor

MC could kick nerdy scientist ass all day. =)





Excelent. graphics? screw graphics. halo is depth and the graphics will still be kick ass good even if they arent exactly the same as HL2. Halo2 will kick ass

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One might add that sex with one individual repeatedly gets tedious and boring.

Sex with more than one...is a rather a more scintillating experiance.

We live our lives by experiances. Some experiances have a more profound effect on ourselves than others. We hope to be enriched with everything we experiance. I speak for all of us here, (namely because of the effort you all made to post/read this forum) that Halo 2 is an experiance we would love to have. I know Halo has, and forever will, have a profound impact on my life. It introduced concepts higher than the Combat Evolved, and gave me a different perspective into stories and captivation.

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Posted by: Final Spartan
And halo's Co-op mode was alot better. Lol

Seriously. I'm sick of Nintendo fanboys who play computer games saying "half life is so much better than Halo or Halo 2."

Man I hate it. I'm sure that both games will be fun to play. (well.... maybe...) but I am looking forward to Halo 2, not Half life. Half life can keep the better graphics. I could care less.


Nintendo....computer games....nintendo....computer games......

they dont mix...

  • 06.20.2004 8:20 PM PDT

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