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Subject: Half-Life 2 graphics compared to Halo 2
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because they run on different hardware, pc and xbox, they are different. if you put hl2 on the xbox it would probobly have the same graphics as halo 2 (or worse), same as if you put halo 2 on the pc, yep...

  • 06.20.2004 8:23 PM PDT
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You guys do realize that xbox has a 256mb graphics card right, and that is the most amount of graphics available, even on a pc. And the processor may only be 800mhz, but thats is more than enough to run any game considering thats all its doing, rather than you pc, which is running a thousand programs at once.

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  • 06.20.2004 8:28 PM PDT
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basically halo 2's graphics are better then half-life 2's but half-life 2 has the super realistic physics engine

  • 06.20.2004 9:08 PM PDT
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also the reason why that x-box has lower system specs then your average PC but runs high graphic games fast is because you have NOTHING RUNNING ON IT BUT GAMES. on the PC you got over a hundred megabytes of 3rd party programs running in the backround

  • 06.20.2004 9:09 PM PDT
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Posted by: Raider_TAW
also the reason why that x-box has lower system specs then your average PC but runs high graphic games fast is because you have NOTHING RUNNING ON IT BUT GAMES. on the PC you got over a hundred megabytes of 3rd party programs running in the backround


Ya, I agree, but isnt that almost exactly what I just said.

  • 06.20.2004 9:46 PM PDT
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Posted by: Pvt Caboose
Posted by: Raider_TAW
also the reason why that x-box has lower system specs then your average PC but runs high graphic games fast is because you have NOTHING RUNNING ON IT BUT GAMES. on the PC you got over a hundred megabytes of 3rd party programs running in the backround


Ya, I agree, but isnt that almost exactly what I just said.


pvt caboose, you said it first and you get all the credit from me, but can you jack cars in half life 2 from opposing players, are there your favorite covonant, can you cut somebody up with a plasma sword, no, no, no, ect. Graphics in games are one of the first things I look at, and half life 2 may be close to that of halo 2 but when it comes down to it, it doesn't really matter to me.

  • 06.20.2004 9:52 PM PDT
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The real reason why Xbox games look so much better is that the resolution on tv is made to be fuzzy. on a pc the monitor is so Highdef that aliasing, jagged edges, and so many other things come into play.

Also, the xbox is one set of hardware. Desiging for one set of hardware is so much easier than trying to get compatability for so many different types of hardware. To break it down, lets say I have a honda civic, I have a part that I made specifically for it. It was a helluva lot easier to make it just for the civic rather than making it so it fit on every single car ever made. That is the difference between PC games and console games. You have more limited choices on hardware, thus increasing the productovity on the work towards actual gameplay.

  • 06.20.2004 9:57 PM PDT
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behold the unbiased opinions of people on a Halo forum -sarcasm-. Half-Life 2 has much better graphics did any of you see the e3 2003 tech demo? It uses the same techniques as the freaking pixar movies it has the best lip synching ever and the best physics ever concevied in a Video Game. Bungie is doing a great job with the Xbox hardware and it shows Halo 2 a fantastic looking game so no direspect to Bungie but Half-Life 2 although i'm not into Half-Life at all is graphically better but in the gameplay department is not half as good.

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  • 06.20.2004 9:58 PM PDT
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you can't compare the graphics becuase they are on different systems. Of course the computer is always going to have better graphical capabilities than the xbox becuase they are more powerful. If you had to compare them halo 2 would win hands down neway.

  • 06.20.2004 10:26 PM PDT
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Well.....from what i know half life 2 is pretty damn boring as far as storyline goes. I mean graphics have some very cool shader effects in hl 2 so they are better. But halo 2 still looks incredible.

In the end i really think halo 2 will be on top, the storyline seems so much better, and the epic feel will certainly win people over trudging through towns and sewers.

Bungie has always said they want to create an aweosme story, and judging from the trailers id say it certainly looks awesome.

  • 06.21.2004 1:30 AM PDT
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as much as i like halo

half life's graphics are better

  • 06.21.2004 1:42 AM PDT
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Honestly, in comparison, Valve is the most horrible game developer ever to walk the face of this earth. They have nothing but laggardly procrastinators on their team. They whine and complain. They point fingers. They shout out HEY EVERYBODY LOOK AT ME all the time. Their support for games like CS and CZ has been nothing but abismal. I can honestly see the first ten minutes of Half Life 2 being completely bad ass, and then the rest turning into a side scroller with graphics rivaling the art shown in the Bungie Update cartoons.

We all know that graphics is not everything. Although it does allow the artists to tell his story in a much better way, the story has to be good for the graphics to complement it. Half Life 2 is not going to post a kicker in the story line section.

  • 06.21.2004 1:49 AM PDT
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i agree, nor is it going to score any points for originality which halo and halo 2 is packed with.

  • 06.21.2004 2:02 AM PDT
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Ok, first of all, you can't compare these games, why?........ well........

1- They have totally different Graphics, physics engines.

2- They have totally diferent storylines, halo is about war, HL is about survival.

3- Yes, halo haves the best replay value of all games i've seen. But Half-life haves the "extra" of creating your own mods of the game, wich means replay value. I mean, i still play HL mods online and i think that's a damn good thing for a 6 y/o game.

4- CS sucks!. There are better mods in HL.

5- They run in completly diferent platforms. I mean, halo was developed for Xbox, and HL for PC. Yes, i know, HL2 is coming out for Xbox too, but it is origynally meant for PC.

6- Both games are fun to play and will be.

7- both games revolutioned FPS games forever, and the way people thought about them, pointless alien/monster killing. Both games involved you in awesome stories, taking you through scary lonely stages to full non-stop action ones. I mean, remember how the freakin headcrabs jumped to your face in those dark tunnels and air ducts in HL1?, or when flood warriors did the same in 343GS?.

8- Both games have some freaking twists in their stories, Remember when you first saw the soldiers in "we/ve got hostiles" in HL1 and you found out that they were there to wipe all living entities in black mesa?, yeah, you were at the top of their list, or when you find out 343GS wanted to wipe out all life in the galaxy?.

So, here are my final notes:

Halo 2 as Half-life 2 will be the best games for a few years to come. Halo 2 will rule on Xbox untill the final days of the console or Halo 3 comes out, whatever happens first. Half-life 2 will rule FPS games in the PC for as long as people keep doing mods and developing their own stuff for the game (see number 3). So for my final note i'll just say that IF you are a true gamer you will recognize the beauty of both games and enjoy them ass well. So don't be such a fanboys and be true gamers.

Peace!.

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  • 06.21.2004 2:35 AM PDT
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I've preordered/paid for both games and to be honest Halo 2 does look like it's going to kick half-life 2's ass. The only way half-life 2 would beat halo 2 in any sense would be the modding part.

  • 06.21.2004 12:24 PM PDT
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HOW DARE YOU COMPARE HALO 2 TO THE PUNY half life2, U ARE CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 06.21.2004 12:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: ThermalZeal
One might add that sex with one individual repeatedly gets tedious and boring.

Sex with more than one...is a rather a more scintillating experiance.

We live our lives by experiances. Some experiances have a more profound effect on ourselves than others. We hope to be enriched with everything we experiance. I speak for all of us here, (namely because of the effort you all made to post/read this forum) that Halo 2 is an experiance we would love to have. I know Halo has, and forever will, have a profound impact on my life. It introduced concepts higher than the Combat Evolved, and gave me a different perspective into stories and captivation.



First of all, what in the hell are you talking about. Next, Halo 2 will own HL2, even though i want both, but am only gonna get H2 because my computer SUCKS!!!

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  • 06.22.2004 1:00 AM PDT
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OMFG if you dont mind me to speak franckly

you people are idiots they are both going to be the best games ever (i mostly agree with the bloke who made all of the bullet points on this post earlier) i also agree with the fact that h2 has the graphics to be a good contender against hl2. And why are you all saying that hl2 will have no replay-ability you know nothing about the game and the fact is that in some hl2 forum they are having the same conversation but on different terms. They both have some of the best storylines ever and will not for time have to compete against each other for time as they are on different formats

also nintendos are great fun for when you and your mates have 30min to waste
thanks for listening to my thoughts

  • 06.22.2004 1:25 AM PDT
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Although Half-Life 2 is technically more advanced, Halo 2 still holds up against Half-Life 2. The latest videos and screens reflect multiplayer graphics, which are toned down. I saw a screen shot in OXM of a single-player level. It was amazing, to say the least. The lighting in Halo 2 is really powerful. It is, technically, more superior than Splinter Cell, which says a lot. The screen showed off the Elite and Jackal models, which were unbelievable. By the architecture, I realized they were on a ring. While Half-Life 2 may be technically more advanced, it won't come close to capturing such an epic and immersive feel. Plus, the gameplay in Halo 2 is far more engaging

  • 06.22.2004 2:02 AM PDT
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Well, graphics wise

HL2 > Doom 3 > H2

Just beacuse they have that much more power on new pc hardware. And they have much higher rez.

Now gameplay value, from what i have... *cough cough * "seen"

H2 > Half Life 2 > Doom 3

Although I havn't played H2, Half-Life 2 was fun for the graphics, and with doom 3, you can find near those graphics in far cry, so doom has nothing special anymore.

How the games will sell in the first year.

H2 = HL2 > Doom 3

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  • 06.22.2004 3:46 AM PDT
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Half-Life 2 has THE most realistic graphics ever! I actually thought it was real life. Personaly I think HL2's graphics r way better than halo 2's (my opinion).

  • 06.22.2004 3:54 AM PDT
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as a game on its own halo 2 will win but when mods are placed in then half life 2 will win

these two games are the only games on my wishlist halo 2 on xbox and half life 2 on PC

  • 06.22.2004 3:55 AM PDT
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Posted by: jamesmacgregor
Half-Life 2 has THE most realistic graphics ever! I actually thought it was real life. Personaly I think HL2's graphics r way better than halo 2's (my opinion).


I agree. HL2 has the best/most realistic graphics. But halo/halo 2 has a better art direction, which is why I like halo so much. When the graphics are like they are right now, ill take art direction over graphics almost all the time.

  • 06.22.2004 8:23 AM PDT

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Half Life 2 has better effects and a tiny bit more graphic than halo.from what we've seen,but half life is boring,and it's one of those pointless games wich u have to play a level 2545374 times to able to complete it and be satisfied.in the other hand.halo offers multiple types of difficulties,more things to do.more fun as the documentary explained it.."if you don't nail those 30 seconds of fun..you won't have a great game"<<half life 2 doesn't have that..but it's still a great game,but come on guys,compraring a game to halo 2?only halo can match it,hehe.

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