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Subject: Forge Update - you like?

I don't play much anymore.

90 degree snap button
Forge Glue
A button making objects float (instead of glitching stuff to float)

No to these three. I don't want losers who suck at Forge to be able to make things that the people who are 'Good' can. That just puts the people who suck, up with the people who are good.

  • 07.23.2008 7:20 PM PDT

Was chosen to be on Bungie favs by Bungie employees, not a group....no big deal or anything

I would pay for it, there are a few things i dont like in there but i would love to have a delete all choice, i cant stand deleting everything, thats why i usually dont make maps on standoff lol.

  • 07.23.2008 7:24 PM PDT
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Time of Day Filter: This Filter could be used for times of day such as dawn, dusk, day, evening, night, midnight. When you spawn the filter the default will be day, you can switch it to witchever time of day you want it to be. You can set it for repsawn times along with respawn at start, and a new option: cycle. The cycle option will allow the ToD (Time of Day) Filter to cycle around all the times of day, making the game much more enjoyable, starting at the selected ToD.

Weather Modifier: This is probably my favorite idea here, I would love to add rain affects on Guardian, it would seem appropriate and it would be great for Machinima. You should also be able to add Thunder and Lightning affects to come from clouds or no where (your choice). Putting snow on Snowbound would also be really cool. The best thing about rain affects is that you could use it on any map, it could come with clouds (to cover up the whole map for the gloomy affects) or it could come without clouds (like on Guardian, there would be no need for clouds).

  • 07.23.2008 7:37 PM PDT

It might be tough to convince Bungie to add a bunch of new objects, but I definitely think that they should consider the UI imporvements you mentioned, specifically: the 90 degree snap, undo, and delete all features.

They should really try to get those into the game.

  • 07.23.2008 8:04 PM PDT
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Sounds like a whole new disc.

  • 07.23.2008 8:05 PM PDT

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I would pay 1600 for all of that.

But why are you asking us?

  • 07.23.2008 8:05 PM PDT
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I like the update, but it should be free. The delete all button should have been there in the first place! It also needs better building tools. I cant ever make anything without something falling over. Forge is a great tool but not that user friendly.

  • 07.23.2008 8:10 PM PDT

Posted by: Sir Brane Damuj
I would pay 1600 for all of that.

But why are you asking us?
I am asking you guys because nobody else has, and a lot of these are my ideas. Why shouldn't I be asking you?

  • 07.23.2008 8:35 PM PDT
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YEAH I WOULD PAY 800 MS POINTS. WHO WOULDNT. I THINK U HAVE A GREAT MIND. I HOPE BUNGIE WILL LOOK INTO THIS. AND DO US ALL A FAVOR.

  • 07.23.2008 8:39 PM PDT

the only problem is that if everyone didn't buy the update, that would pose problems for the people who don't have it because they most likely wouldn't be able to interact with a forged map

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This is a flame on the topic. I apologize for any offense. Just pointing out all flaws, but I wish you luck on your quest for a new forge. Even though it's unlikely.

- Gaurdians (spawn them and size them like a koth hill or a respawn area) - Can't do, would have to release a whole new disc for, those "Guardians" would have to be new models which aren't installed in the game and having them indestructable would also be an issue. Putting them in all levels would make the maps look retarded and as if Bungie is trying to HIDE something. Which they aren't.
- A "Delete All Items" button - Good idea, but a major issue is the fact it is known that it could cause many glitches as to overloading the map.
- 90 degree snap button - Great idea, but not that smart mainly because it could cause instant lag, or if someone is stand next to it, they could either go through a wall and get out the map, or go through the ground and die. Etc.
- An Undo button (don't you hate when you delete something on accident?) - Great idea, but all the buttons are already in use.
- Openable and closable doors/gates (like the ones on standoff, but closable) Good idea, but having a guy spam open/close over and over would make the map lag like a mofo to everyone and would eventually overload the map.
- Destructable Walls (like a wall from foundry, but it would crack and eventually break when damaged like a barrier) - Great idea, let's do this. Oh wait... you'd have to resend out the copies of halo because you would have to put in more models of the broken walls. This would really cause more work for the texture designers.
- Trees - Trees? Let's put trees in foundry. In the pit, in narrows, sandtrap, blackout, construct, snowbound, avalanche, cold storage, epitaph, guardian, and rats nest. the only maps they would even slightly work on is valhalla, standoff, last resort, high ground, isolation and ghost town. Of course, they'd have to release a new game because the forge records of the trees are not installed into the original game, meaning if they wanted to, they couldnt give you trees. sorry guys.
- Dead characters such as marines, elites, brutes, etc. - Dead corpses would require model recreation and reissuing of the game. Meaning, new entries and models for forge. Requires a new GAME. They would disappear anyways over time... like if you hit the body once.
- Wrecked Pelicans and Phantoms (maybe like 1 per map) - you would have to have invisible barriers to show the wreckage around it, and it would have to be movable and spreadable which would require LOTS of work and could cause many glitches and through-the-map errors. Meaning, you could walk over these invisible barriers, so if you through a grenade at the blown up phantom and a piece lands on top of a say.... hornet. that hornet would be able to fly high into the air, causing the invisible barrier to increasingly spread, making you walk on air if you wanted to.
- The ability to change the time of day (an object very similar to a filter) - no flaws. congrats on your first.
- Ladders - did you see how the spartans and elites climb in tsavo highway the campaign level? you look stupid and it'd make the game look stupid. would require a newly leased game to fix the models.
- Shade Turrets - no flaws, maybe bungie will someday use.
- Jackal Sniper Towers - no flaws, maybe bungie will someday use.
- AA Wraiths - no point, same as the regular basically. Waste of bungie's time.
- Troop Warthogs - No point. Seriously. Just go on the pit and look at the ones outside the map if you want to see them.
- Choice of skin on vehicles (iced or normal) - requires a new feature, which would require a new forge or interface section, which only available through a new game.
- Choice of color for containers on maps like Avalanche, Blackout, Rats Nest... - wtf? containers?
- A second custom powerup (edit it seperatly from the main yellow one) - no point, they won't do it.
- Red and Blue banners for marking the red and blue sides of maps - why? you're just stupid if you don't know where to go.
- More signs than just A and B - maybe, but then again that was only for a map where you can forge anything on the map.
- Non - detachable machine gun turrets + plasma cannons - its called warthogs.
- Sizable Filters - [b]say whaaaa
- Breakable glass windows (remember the ones on good old fashioned Zanzibar?) new models, which would require the new updated version of the old maps which would be too much for them. no. go break a windshield.
- Floors/larger walls - grow up. rofl.
- Roads for racing maps - heres a road, tsavo highway!
- A "Position Lock" button which would allow you to make sure an object could not move - wow. new interface. new game.
- "Forge Glue" - seriously? new installation and blah blah blah too much work.
- A button making objects float (instead of glitching stuff to float) OH YEAH. LETS PUT A WARTHOG HIGHEST IN THE SKY ON SANDTRAP. LETS TRY AND GET IT! QUICK, LAUNCH ROCKS AT IT!
- Snowmen on snow covered maps for laughs (not default placed, just forgable) - pointless. you have soccer balls. have fun.
- Some sort of weather modifier (again, an object similar to a filter) - meow.

  • 07.23.2008 9:43 PM PDT

yes I would pay that or even more.

  • 07.23.2008 9:54 PM PDT
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i'd pay much more than that

  • 07.23.2008 9:54 PM PDT

dude if bungie can make new objects why couldnt they put thoes changes on new map and dont just say that they would have to make a new game because thats bs.

  • 07.23.2008 10:03 PM PDT

Sure, why not. =P Only problem would be that only people who have the update would be able to load and play maps that contain that stuff.

  • 07.23.2008 10:11 PM PDT

Some seriously great ideas man. I definitely need an undo button

  • 07.23.2008 10:14 PM PDT
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What we need is an option in the object properties menu that lets you select whether or not you would like physics aplied to an object.

  • 07.23.2008 10:20 PM PDT

I like all these idea's, but I highly doubt bungie will do this. They didn't make the game's programing flexible enough for changes like that. Kinda the same reason we haven't seen any new armor. Hopefully when we see Halo 4 (pending title) lol, they'll add all these great customization ideas. Long live creativity!!

  • 07.23.2008 10:35 PM PDT

Famous LAN parties

this would take all day to download,so yes it would be on a disc w/ special features and patches(maybe) but what your saying is that you want more structural interaction and props, like in movies, basically...

  • 07.23.2008 10:47 PM PDT

Photographers are sexy.

They also need to add back and record options for Campaign replays...

And I would definitely buy this.

  • 07.23.2008 10:54 PM PDT
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This is my flame on your flame. Also, I mean nobody any offensive, except for my comments towards the end of the post, which are only directed at RUSSIAN TORPEDO.

Posted by: RUSSIAN TORPEDO
This is a flame on the topic. I apologize for any offense. Just pointing out all flaws, but I wish you luck on your quest for a new forge. Even though it's unlikely.

- Gaurdians (spawn them and size them like a koth hill or a respawn area) - Can't do, would have to release a whole new disc for, those "Guardians" would have to be new models which aren't installed in the game and having them indestructable would also be an issue. Putting them in all levels would make the maps look retarded and as if Bungie is trying to HIDE something. Which they aren't. You misunderstand. He simply is suggesting areas (like a hill) where the guardians will automaticly kill you. No character models are needed at all.
- A "Delete All Items" button - Good idea, but a major issue is the fact it is known that it could cause many glitches as to overloading the map. Wait, what? How will it overload the map? It would not be that difficult for them to create a program individualy deletes each object in sequence.
- 90 degree snap button - Great idea, but not that smart mainly because it could cause instant lag, or if someone is stand next to it, they could either go through a wall and get out the map, or go through the ground and die. Etc. [Have it simply apply physics to an object in the same way that picking up an object does. It would simply rotate very quickly 90 degrees in said direction [/i]
- An Undo button (don't you hate when you delete something on accident?) - Great idea, but all the buttons are already in use. Wtf, my B button does nothing when I am in moniter mode.
- Openable and closable doors/gates (like the ones on standoff, but closable) Good idea, but having a guy spam open/close over and over would make the map lag like a mofo to everyone and would eventually overload the map. Just set a time limit between how often the object will be able to open/close. It could even be an option in the item properties menu.
- Destructable Walls (like a wall from foundry, but it would crack and eventually break when damaged like a barrier) - Great idea, let's do this. Oh wait... you'd have to resend out the copies of halo because you would have to put in more models of the broken walls. This would really cause more work for the texture designers. What the hell are you talking about with these new models? The foundry walls were not on the disk, and we didnt need a new copy to get those. You make no sense in this regard.
- Trees - Trees? Let's put trees in foundry. In the pit, in narrows, sandtrap, blackout, construct, snowbound, avalanche, cold storage, epitaph, guardian, and rats nest. the only maps they would even slightly work on is valhalla, standoff, last resort, high ground, isolation and ghost town. Of course, they'd have to release a new game because the forge records of the trees are not installed into the original game, meaning if they wanted to, they couldnt give you trees. sorry guys. And shield doors were a forge item initially? No, but they are now. And they wouldn't put them in maps that trees would be stupid in.
- Dead characters such as marines, elites, brutes, etc. - Dead corpses would require model recreation and reissuing of the game. Meaning, new entries and models for forge. Requires a new GAME. They would disappear anyways over time... like if you hit the body once. And crates are any diffrent? This would be easy enough if you took the existing model for a corpse and modified it to work as a forge item.
- Wrecked Pelicans and Phantoms (maybe like 1 per map) - you would have to have invisible barriers to show the wreckage around it, and it would have to be movable and spreadable which would require LOTS of work and could cause many glitches and through-the-map errors. Meaning, you could walk over these invisible barriers, so if you through a grenade at the blown up phantom and a piece lands on top of a say.... hornet. that hornet would be able to fly high into the air, causing the invisible barrier to increasingly spread, making you walk on air if you wanted to. This time, I agree. This is stupid. I am ready to have my mind changed, but this is not that great. Although, in the spirit of argument, I am going to say that your argument against them was stupid and illegible.
- The ability to change the time of day (an object very similar to a filter) - no flaws. congrats on your first. [/i] Yeah, more filters would be nice. I agree with you this time. [/i]
- Ladders - did you see how the spartans and elites climb in tsavo highway the campaign level? you look stupid and it'd make the game look stupid. would require a newly leased game to fix the models. Ladders are -blam!-. If you know how to grenade jump there is no reason for them.
- Shade Turrets - no flaws, maybe bungie will someday use. Agreed
- Jackal Sniper Towers - no flaws, maybe bungie will someday use. Agreed
- AA Wraiths - no point, same as the regular basically. Waste of bungie's time. And Shade Turrets aren't a bad idea by this logic...? AA Wraith = Kewl
- Troop Warthogs - No point. Seriously. Just go on the pit and look at the ones outside the map if you want to see them. Spartans/Elites cant ride in the back so that is why they are not in.
- Choice of skin on vehicles (iced or normal) - requires a new feature, which would require a new forge or interface section, which only available through a new game. This would be easy to implement. You clearly do not understand how an update works. Look at WoW patchs, they make major changes to the way the game works.
- Choice of color for containers on maps like Avalanche, Blackout, Rats Nest... - wtf? containers? He means, Double Boxs and Single Boxs. This is a good idea. You must never forge or be stupid to not understand what he ment.
- A second custom powerup (edit it seperatly from the main yellow one) - no point, they won't do it. The number of times I have needed a second custom power up... This is something that should already be in the game
- Red and Blue banners for marking the red and blue sides of maps - why? you're just stupid if you don't know where to go. Ever respawn outside your base on a new map? Ever get completely lost? This would be very helpful for those without a good sense of direction
- More signs than just A and B - maybe, but then again that was only for a map where you can forge anything on the map. Just change the colour of A and I would be happy. We could always use more signs.
- Non - detachable machine gun turrets + plasma cannons - its called warthogs. Those are hard to place, and are time consuming to stop from being able to be moved.
- Sizable Filters - say whaaaa That is what I wanted from the beginning.
- Breakable glass windows (remember the ones on good old fashioned Zanzibar?) new models, which would require the new updated version of the old maps which would be too much for them. no. go break a windshield. Are you retarded? Do you understand anything that goes into making a game? They spit out new models all the time.
- Floors/larger walls - grow up. rofl. Lol, if you don't anything logical to say, keep your mouth shut.
- Roads for racing maps - heres a road, tsavo highway! See above comment
- A "Position Lock" button which would allow you to make sure an object could not move - wow. new interface. new game. Not really. You clearly have a poor grasp of the way programs work.
- "Forge Glue" - seriously? new installation and blah blah blah too much work. You are freaking stupid. Really. The more I go down this page to explain/flame things, the more I am able to grasp how ridiculusly low your IQ is. Maybe you are just ignorant, I don't know. Either way, this is something that could be done.
- A button making objects float (instead of glitching stuff to float) OH YEAH. LETS PUT A WARTHOG HIGHEST IN THE SKY ON SANDTRAP. LETS TRY AND GET IT! QUICK, LAUNCH ROCKS AT IT! See above comment
- Snowmen on snow covered maps for laughs (not default placed, just forgable) - pointless. you have soccer balls. have fun. You are just looking for ways to seem smart. You are failing.
- Some sort of weather modifier (again, an object similar to a filter) - meow. Woof

  • 07.23.2008 10:56 PM PDT
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hells yes

  • 07.23.2008 11:04 PM PDT

"There is no time for peace. No respite. No forgiveness. There is only WAR!"

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Sounds like a whole new disc.


During E3 microsoft announced that with the fall update would come full disc to hardrive coppies, with the disc in the drive to still paly, but come this fall

space on the disc is no longer a problem

  • 07.23.2008 11:09 PM PDT

i think a new forge would be great but i dont want all that crap that is listed on the OP.

all i want is a forge that has no ceiling or at least a higher one, more room, and be able to place more objects. I want to be able to forge in a an area that is about the size of avalanche but without the panicila of land in the middle. Just a big open Square with a floor. Maybe even make that floor change-able. Like make it snow, sand, grass, metal, tile, ect... (not all those at once, just pic one then build on it.)

If this could be made possible then please, bungie, look into it for the forging community. All we want is a bigger map. We don't need fancy junk like the OP posted. All we need is a larger area to place the items we already have. Oh and let us put more of one thing. Like set the number available higher.

  • 07.23.2008 11:13 PM PDT

Someone get the ghost. I call warthog driver. We need someone to get the laser before the other team does. I need a gunner. . . . . No wait- . . . . I NEED A GUNNER . . . . oh . . never mind. I'll just splatter people. <"SPLATTER SPREE">

bushes would be nice. And fog.

  • 07.24.2008 6:27 PM PDT