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This is my flame on your flame. Also, I mean nobody any offensive, except for my comments towards the end of the post, which are only directed at RUSSIAN TORPEDO.
Posted by: RUSSIAN TORPEDO
This is a flame on the topic. I apologize for any offense. Just pointing out all flaws, but I wish you luck on your quest for a new forge. Even though it's unlikely.
- Gaurdians (spawn them and size them like a koth hill or a respawn area) - Can't do, would have to release a whole new disc for, those "Guardians" would have to be new models which aren't installed in the game and having them indestructable would also be an issue. Putting them in all levels would make the maps look retarded and as if Bungie is trying to HIDE something. Which they aren't. You misunderstand. He simply is suggesting areas (like a hill) where the guardians will automaticly kill you. No character models are needed at all.
- A "Delete All Items" button - Good idea, but a major issue is the fact it is known that it could cause many glitches as to overloading the map. Wait, what? How will it overload the map? It would not be that difficult for them to create a program individualy deletes each object in sequence.
- 90 degree snap button - Great idea, but not that smart mainly because it could cause instant lag, or if someone is stand next to it, they could either go through a wall and get out the map, or go through the ground and die. Etc. [Have it simply apply physics to an object in the same way that picking up an object does. It would simply rotate very quickly 90 degrees in said direction [/i]
- An Undo button (don't you hate when you delete something on accident?) - Great idea, but all the buttons are already in use. Wtf, my B button does nothing when I am in moniter mode.
- Openable and closable doors/gates (like the ones on standoff, but closable) Good idea, but having a guy spam open/close over and over would make the map lag like a mofo to everyone and would eventually overload the map. Just set a time limit between how often the object will be able to open/close. It could even be an option in the item properties menu.
- Destructable Walls (like a wall from foundry, but it would crack and eventually break when damaged like a barrier) - Great idea, let's do this. Oh wait... you'd have to resend out the copies of halo because you would have to put in more models of the broken walls. This would really cause more work for the texture designers. What the hell are you talking about with these new models? The foundry walls were not on the disk, and we didnt need a new copy to get those. You make no sense in this regard.
- Trees - Trees? Let's put trees in foundry. In the pit, in narrows, sandtrap, blackout, construct, snowbound, avalanche, cold storage, epitaph, guardian, and rats nest. the only maps they would even slightly work on is valhalla, standoff, last resort, high ground, isolation and ghost town. Of course, they'd have to release a new game because the forge records of the trees are not installed into the original game, meaning if they wanted to, they couldnt give you trees. sorry guys. And shield doors were a forge item initially? No, but they are now. And they wouldn't put them in maps that trees would be stupid in.
- Dead characters such as marines, elites, brutes, etc. - Dead corpses would require model recreation and reissuing of the game. Meaning, new entries and models for forge. Requires a new GAME. They would disappear anyways over time... like if you hit the body once. And crates are any diffrent? This would be easy enough if you took the existing model for a corpse and modified it to work as a forge item.
- Wrecked Pelicans and Phantoms (maybe like 1 per map) - you would have to have invisible barriers to show the wreckage around it, and it would have to be movable and spreadable which would require LOTS of work and could cause many glitches and through-the-map errors. Meaning, you could walk over these invisible barriers, so if you through a grenade at the blown up phantom and a piece lands on top of a say.... hornet. that hornet would be able to fly high into the air, causing the invisible barrier to increasingly spread, making you walk on air if you wanted to. This time, I agree. This is stupid. I am ready to have my mind changed, but this is not that great. Although, in the spirit of argument, I am going to say that your argument against them was stupid and illegible.
- The ability to change the time of day (an object very similar to a filter) - no flaws. congrats on your first. [/i] Yeah, more filters would be nice. I agree with you this time. [/i]
- Ladders - did you see how the spartans and elites climb in tsavo highway the campaign level? you look stupid and it'd make the game look stupid. would require a newly leased game to fix the models. Ladders are -blam!-. If you know how to grenade jump there is no reason for them.
- Shade Turrets - no flaws, maybe bungie will someday use. Agreed
- Jackal Sniper Towers - no flaws, maybe bungie will someday use. Agreed
- AA Wraiths - no point, same as the regular basically. Waste of bungie's time. And Shade Turrets aren't a bad idea by this logic...? AA Wraith = Kewl
- Troop Warthogs - No point. Seriously. Just go on the pit and look at the ones outside the map if you want to see them. Spartans/Elites cant ride in the back so that is why they are not in.
- Choice of skin on vehicles (iced or normal) - requires a new feature, which would require a new forge or interface section, which only available through a new game. This would be easy to implement. You clearly do not understand how an update works. Look at WoW patchs, they make major changes to the way the game works.
- Choice of color for containers on maps like Avalanche, Blackout, Rats Nest... - wtf? containers? He means, Double Boxs and Single Boxs. This is a good idea. You must never forge or be stupid to not understand what he ment.
- A second custom powerup (edit it seperatly from the main yellow one) - no point, they won't do it. The number of times I have needed a second custom power up... This is something that should already be in the game
- Red and Blue banners for marking the red and blue sides of maps - why? you're just stupid if you don't know where to go. Ever respawn outside your base on a new map? Ever get completely lost? This would be very helpful for those without a good sense of direction
- More signs than just A and B - maybe, but then again that was only for a map where you can forge anything on the map. Just change the colour of A and I would be happy. We could always use more signs.
- Non - detachable machine gun turrets + plasma cannons - its called warthogs. Those are hard to place, and are time consuming to stop from being able to be moved.
- Sizable Filters - say whaaaa That is what I wanted from the beginning.
- Breakable glass windows (remember the ones on good old fashioned Zanzibar?) new models, which would require the new updated version of the old maps which would be too much for them. no. go break a windshield. Are you retarded? Do you understand anything that goes into making a game? They spit out new models all the time.
- Floors/larger walls - grow up. rofl. Lol, if you don't anything logical to say, keep your mouth shut.
- Roads for racing maps - heres a road, tsavo highway! See above comment
- A "Position Lock" button which would allow you to make sure an object could not move - wow. new interface. new game. Not really. You clearly have a poor grasp of the way programs work.
- "Forge Glue" - seriously? new installation and blah blah blah too much work. You are freaking stupid. Really. The more I go down this page to explain/flame things, the more I am able to grasp how ridiculusly low your IQ is. Maybe you are just ignorant, I don't know. Either way, this is something that could be done.
- A button making objects float (instead of glitching stuff to float) OH YEAH. LETS PUT A WARTHOG HIGHEST IN THE SKY ON SANDTRAP. LETS TRY AND GET IT! QUICK, LAUNCH ROCKS AT IT! See above comment
- Snowmen on snow covered maps for laughs (not default placed, just forgable) - pointless. you have soccer balls. have fun. You are just looking for ways to seem smart. You are failing.
- Some sort of weather modifier (again, an object similar to a filter) - meow. Woof