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Posted by: Draerden
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the Library to the best of my knowledge is simply a facility made to contain or quarantine the flood. The index on the other hand seems to be more or less an ignition key for the halo.


There's no way they'd call it the Library then. They'd call it the Laboratory or the containment facility or something like that. The Library's definition is on the Library forum header if you want to check it out.

Further, we don't know the Index is a firing key. It was only a requirment that the Index be retrieved before firing the Halos. It could have been procedure to retrieve the Index first. After all, Cortana and the Cheif have to go and disable the the Phase Pulse Generators because Corana knows that 343 can trigger Halo. Thus, the index is not necessary to fire it.

So, now, if the Index is not needed to fire the Halo, if an Index is defined as either a system or key to information and while a "library" stores information then what is that information that must be preserved before the Halo is fired?


The reason the Phase Pulse Generators were disabled is because Cortana was afraid that the Monitor might find a way to activate Halo without the Index, which she had.

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the body has to be just the right size to infect also cant have plasma traces. thats why sgt johnson survived. he got hit with plasms and the flood rejected him.

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Posted by: TwinkieMaster
The reason the Phase Pulse Generators were disabled is because Cortana was afraid that the Monitor might find a way to activate Halo without the Index, which she had.

Yes, but do you know that you are correct on that. You feel that way but can you substantiate your claims?

What I'm pointing out is that there is not enough evidence to say for certain that the Index is a firing key. It could be one of many steps required before firing, including batting down the hatches and making sure the twinkies are in the fridge :)

There is something greater, a larger puzzzel, there are signs that there is something "more" going on.

  • 06.21.2004 10:15 AM PDT
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Posted by: Masta Chief 99
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I want to see a Flood Grunt and why didn't we see any Flood Grunts or Jackals what is so good about Humans and Elites I want to see a small flood Grunt a Flood Jackal and maybe a Flood Shark or Bird if there is animals in Halo 2 which I really hope there is.


there weren't any grunt/jackal flood forms in Halo because the Flood infection forms couldn't make them into combat forms for some unknown reason, so they made them into carriers


They didnt make them carriers. They couoldnt because jackals and grunts are too small and weak.

This is how it goes. Infection makes combat. Combat after a while evolves into carrier. Carrier turns into 3, or 4(not sure) infection

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Posted by: J 117
ok n00bs, i will give you the facts about flood straight:
- There are flood grunts, they are the carrier forms.
- there are 2 forms of combat form, one is an elite and the other one is a human.

You guys need to research halo more often


Errr your wrong what i said before this is right

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Posted by: ThermalZeal
The flood, unlike a Half life creature, do not take over a host organisim and adapt it to its own.

The flood are a race, as you can see in Halo 1 they never, pardon my french, screw a dead covie to turn into something of a melange. The Flood are a species, they feed on living biomatter, more appropriately, anything that's got blood. They spawn and reproduce in an asymbiotic way. Therefore, I highly doubt you will see any cross breeds between covenant and flood.


The bigger combat forms(the taller fatter ones) are elite combats. The smaller combats are human combats

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And those who didnt know, the flood are DEFINITELY BACK. Bungie said so in a magazine somewhere

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Alright, time to set the facts straight.

The flood is a omni-parasitic organism which takes over suitable hosts by tapping into the spinal chord and the host's central nervous system (CNS). Combat forms turn into a carrier form when it becomes too injured to continue it's duties. Grunts and Jackals are also turned into carrier forms, most likely due to the host's natural weakness. Hunters are not infected, either due to their lack of cognitive capability or some natural resilience.

So humans, elites, jackals, and grunts become carrier forms. However, in Halo we only see 1 type of carrier form: humans.

Sarge. Johnson was unable to be infected by the flood due to boron's syndrome, caused by exposure to high-yield plasma, which messed up the electrical impulses in his nervous system, so the flood couldn't possess him.



I reckon it would be quite cool if you could see people being taken over by the flood in Halo 2, so that when they become infected, they turn against you (if friendly), and if you leave them alone for long enough, they turn into a flood form.

  • 06.21.2004 10:40 AM PDT

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Correct me if i'm wrong:

The Flood is really the little Popcornhead that jiggles accros the floor and all the other forms you encounter in Halo are infected by these air heads. The Carrier-Forms used to be Grunts, look at their wiggly little arms and short stubby legs, there's no mistake about that. The Elite and Human Combat-Flood forms are even easier to recognize. I think the Jackals were to skinny and unsuited for combat for the flood to use. The Hunters armor was too thick to penetrate and the stabbig didn't realy work so it was dead before the infestation-forms could take control over it. Think about the scene where you try to get back into the Cov.Cruiser you just jumped from and you look trough your sniper-scope and see several flood knawing on a Hunter, without any visual effect, until the Hunter falls dead on the ground

I think the Library is simply where the Forerunner stored their knowledge about the Flood and all other important data. It's in the first installation you visit, where they are held captive. Thats where you first encounter them and thats where you're sent to stop the captain from doing something terribly wrong(like free the flood) The Covenant had worked pretty hard to seal the doors of the facility, to keep something in(the flood).

The Index is a storage file that contains data the Forerunner designated as important. So it would probably contain an index(log) that states the locations of other Halos, Forerunner Facilities and gatherd data from the Flood study.

If indeed we visit other Halo's in Halo 2, why would we only find Covenant-Flood infections. There's a pretty big chance that creatures from other worlds have been infected on these Halos.

So i don't think there will be Hunter-Flood in Halo 2 since they weren't in Halo:CE but there is a big chance we will find other forms.

  • 06.21.2004 11:03 AM PDT

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Posted by: AHaloPlayer
Alright, time to set the facts straight.

The flood is a omni-parasitic organism which takes over suitable hosts by tapping into the spinal chord and the host's central nervous system (CNS). Combat forms turn into a carrier form when it becomes too injured to continue it's duties. Grunts and Jackals are also turned into carrier forms, most likely due to the host's natural weakness. Hunters are not infected, either due to their lack of cognitive capability or some natural resilience.

So humans, elites, jackals, and grunts become carrier forms. However, in Halo we only see 1 type of carrier form: humans.

Sarge. Johnson was unable to be infected by the flood due to boron's syndrome, caused by exposure to high-yield plasma, which messed up the electrical impulses in his nervous system, so the flood couldn't possess him.



I reckon it would be quite cool if you could see people being taken over by the flood in Halo 2, so that when they become infected, they turn against you (if friendly), and if you leave them alone for long enough, they turn into a flood form.



How do you mean: " in Halo we only see 1 type of carrier form: humans." You just said there are elites and grunts and jackals too and aren't the elites and humans then combat forms.

And how about the "Captain of the ship-form", you know the one with the spungiehead. How is he a carier

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All this proves is that no one knows where the Flood came from, nor is anyone sure how it's vectored exactly.

I personally thought the infection forms latched onto their target and injected them with spores, (A spore is a single celled organism capable of becoming a new organism) that subsequently rewrite the victim's DNA, transforming it into a Flood.

My substantiation of this hypothesis lies within the game itself:

Monitor: "You can see how the body's been transformed by the genetic re-structuring of the Flood infection. The small creatures carry spores that cause a host to mutate. The mutated host then produces spores that can pass the Flood to others. It is insidious and elegant."

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Combat Evolved

I rest my case

[Edited on 6/21/2004 11:23:48 AM]

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Posted by: BlueReaper
How do you mean: " in Halo we only see 1 type of carrier form: humans." You just said there are elites and grunts and jackals too and aren't the elites and humans then combat forms.

And how about the "Captain of the ship-form", you know the one with the spungiehead. How is he a carier


he carries Keyes' body

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