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Subject: Personal theory about Forerunners
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I've already posted this on HBO, but I thought some of you guys here could be interested.
Imagine the Forerunners, their culture and their society. A race that uses extremely advanced technology and has colonies all around the galaxy, and possibly on other galaxies. Now lets look at them handling the "flood" situation, thousands of worlds contaminated, they can take care of them using their advanced technology and weaponry, but there's just too many of them, and for every "flood" infected forerunner they kill, two forerunners are infected in some part of the galaxy. Loss seems inevitable. In a desperate measure, some scientists propose the construction of the massive rings to contain the flood and to wipe out all existing life with enough biomass to sustain the flood. Now suppose that the forerunner society is based upon democracy, like ours. Surely there is no democratic society in which everyone has the same opinion about any subject, and some groups would pronounce themselves saying that the Haloes would also wipe them all out because against that type of weapons there is no physical protection to keep them safe, and would eventually oppose to the construction of such weapons, but the situation requires these desperate measures, so the Haloes are started due to the larger cuantity of votes that approve their construction.
The opposing groups realize that their own technology is going to be used to destroy their race, and decide to start a colony in the outer rim of the galaxy, far away from flood infection forms and from the Haloes. This colony would be very special because everything on it would be placed specifically to avoid the settlers from dicovering their real origins and from being corrupted by technology. There would be false evidence of evolution from apes and lots more of false evidence lying around.
Finally, the Haloes would be triggered, and the Forerunner race would be practicaly extinct, excepting the "human" colony and a small bunch of survivors from the triggering of the Haloes. These last ones would hate themselves for being so blind, and in their madness they would blame the opposing groups because they didn't try hard enough to stop the Forerunner leaders from using the Haloes. In order to survive they would create their own species of alien beings to serve them, and the Forerunners would become the gods of those species that would eventually unite forming The Covenant. The Forerunners, using their alien "tools" would discover evidence of the "human" settlers created by the opposing groups on other planets, and their madness would rise again, sending their Covenant "tools" against the "humans" in the most ferocious of wars.
If you see any mistakes and errors or you just want some further explanations, I beg you to reply with your questions. Thanks.

  • 06.21.2004 11:37 AM PDT
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[color=gold]I believe since Halo had flood in it, and has containment protocols, that any surviving forrunner stayed on the ring as it was blasted. Anything inside the ring would not be destroyed, while anything outside the ring would.

This would explain why the flood was contained, because, at the time, it was everywhere. The flood outside died, while the flood inside was contained.[/color]

  • 06.21.2004 11:42 AM PDT
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[color=lime]I don't know where the forrunner went, maybe they ended up on earth and decided to start over, since everything else in the galaxy would as a result of the blast.[/color]

[Edited on 6/21/2004 11:44:48 AM]

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pretty darn good are, but are u sayin that the forerunner are stiil alive and sent the covenant on the other forerunner that ran away. and the ones that ran away are humans

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It's not bad. I do like it.

Creating the Halos while in a war situation, devoting those resources, seems to be unlikely option. The sheer number of Sentinels the could have created instead would be utterly mind staggering.

Further, what happened to these mysterious survivors? I guess they could have been killed by the Prophets in a bid for power long ago?

  • 06.21.2004 11:46 AM PDT
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this is quite an interesting theory but why would the covenant be on a religious mission to destroy humans if their "gods" were human-like

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[color=lime] I'm saying forrunner started the chain reaction of rings, as a result all life is wiped out except what is on the ring. After an amount of time passes where life starts again on planets such as earth, Forrunner inhabit it, leaving stuff for future generations. (strange crystal found on reach and earth.) [/color]

  • 06.21.2004 11:50 AM PDT
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its a bunch of oompaloompa reincarnations based on me, hahahahahhaha

  • 06.21.2004 11:51 AM PDT
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[color=gold]prophets, cove, all that was not around when forrunner was, if you want to speculate, you better get your facts straight first. [/color]

  • 06.21.2004 11:52 AM PDT
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exactly

  • 06.21.2004 11:52 AM PDT
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Posted by: Draerden
Further, what happened to these mysterious survivors? I guess they could have been killed by the Prophets in a bid for power long ago?


I guess that asking the prophets to attack their "gods" (the mysterious survivors from the triggering that created them in order to serve them) is like asking a catholic guy to burn a cathedral.

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Posted by: PREDAT0R
[color=lime] I'm saying forrunner started the chain reaction of rings, as a result all life is wiped out except what is on the ring. After an amount of time passes where life starts again on planets such as earth, Forrunner inhabit it, leaving stuff for future generations. (strange crystal found on reach and earth.) [/color]


As you wish, that's YOUR theory.

  • 06.21.2004 11:56 AM PDT
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Posted by: RoNe117
The Forerunners, using their alien "tools" would discover evidence of the "human" settlers created by the opposing groups on other planets, and their madness would rise again, sending their Covenant "tools" against the "humans" in the most ferocious of wars.


[color=lime]That does not make any sense. Its like saying we are at war with ourselves, so lets make some other colony far away, while in the mean time we make cove servents, and then later we ill have them fight each other....uhh no.[/color]

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Or maybe the Prophets are just the surviving forerunners' puppets and used to attack the remaining human race who are the descendents of the seperatists forerunners from long ago?

  • 06.21.2004 12:00 PM PDT
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[color=lime]If you read any of the books, then you would know that the prophets claim to have come from what used to be the forrunner home world, and that is why they have adopted forrunner technology.

You can't just create an idea thinking the forrunner were at war with themselves. There is no evidence, and there is nothing to go on whichs point it in that direction.[/color]

[color=gold] The forrunner mysteriously dissapeared, usually when someone is at war with another, one race survives...because one side wins. Unless both sides blew each other up, and thats is sooo far fetched its laughable [/color]

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  • 06.21.2004 12:04 PM PDT
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I know. I like to concept about it.

  • 06.21.2004 12:06 PM PDT
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That does not make any sense. Its like saying we are at war with ourselves, so lets make some other colony far away, while in the mean time we make cove servents, and then later we ill have them fight each other....uhh no.

You didn't understand, read it again. Besides, the halo doesn't kill the flood, Cortana says it loud and clear in the game, it kills their food : humans, covies... And of course everything alive with the sufficient biomass for the flood to chew on that is located on the Halo dies, it's like saying that you're safe in the center of an explosion...

  • 06.21.2004 12:14 PM PDT
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Posted by: PREDAT0R
[color=lime]If you read any of the books, then you would know that the prophets claim to have come from what used to be the forrunner home world, and that is why they have adopted forrunner technology.

You can't just create an idea thinking the forrunner were at war with themselves. There is no evidence, and there is nothing to go on whichs point it in that direction.[/color]

[color=gold] The forrunner mysteriously dissapeared, usually when someone is at war with another, one race survives...because one side wins. Unless both sides blew each other up, and thats is sooo far fetched its laughable [/color]


Ok guy, first of all, IT'S A THEORY... My god, what do you think? You think I'm saying this seriously? Im just suggesting it. And besides, your THEORY about war, tell me which side survives if China and Russia attacked each other with nuclear weapons? Maybe a couple of cities survive the first months?

  • 06.21.2004 12:20 PM PDT

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I haven't read too deeply into any of the three books, so bare with me. : ) My ideas are crazy. : )*

To me, everything about Halo and the Flood just screams Weapons of Mass Destruction.

Are we completely positive that the Flood is not some type of "forerunner made" type of weapon? Did the forerunner get along? I know humans don't. Would they have reason to create such a beast?

Did one forerunner society lead with the creation of Halo 01, to be used as both a weapon and leverage against other forerunners - or other beings? Would the forerunner "break apart" and each go their separate ways and create their own ring worlds? I'm sure humans would do something of that nature. Certainly those with very different religious beliefs probably would.



Okay, lets also assume everything we're told is true (based on the video game). Halo is both a weapon and a facility built to study the flood. If the flood are released, then it is best to set off the ring(s), and kill off their "food source" - humans - covenant - something along the lines of any sentient being with large enough biomass to sustain the flood.

Why do this? How long does it take to "starve" the flood?

What's the difference between commiting suicide - and starving them? Either way, they starve. Eventually?

Could the Flood make their way to another galaxy even without a food source within said galaxy? It's certainly possible. Is it possible that there are other food sources in other galaxies? I'd say yes, the forerunner cetainly didn't want to take any chances.

Maybe the forerunners actually were gods? Maybe they created humans? And the rings were used to study humans and sustain human life? I actually thought of the rings as like this giant electric fence built around our galaxy. It's human nature that we question things, we ask what that object is in the sky - then we go on to find out that it's our sun (a star), or a big piece of rock (our moon). Then we find ways to fly to the moon, and study it up close. We find ways to send robots to Mars... And so on.. This goes on until we've studied our solar system as best we can.. Then, we get bored, it's human nature. So we find ways to travel to other stars - other solar systems. We study them. Then we move on to study the rest of our galaxy. We don't just jump from one galaxy to the next.. At least I wouldn't think so.. If we did, it would probably be a one way trip. : )*

But, eventually, we'd come across Halo - or Halos. We'd get bored, and study those, until we found the Flood. Then we'd be screwed. The boy scout motto "be prepared" is thrown out the window.. And we're at the mercy of the Flood - and the destruction of the rings. Like I said - One GIANT electric fence. : p

  • 06.21.2004 12:26 PM PDT
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Ok, Its a pretty good idea, wait a real real good idea but The Fore runners who went the other way, they get rid of most of their technology and they like de evolve into the humans. Is this what your saying, if not this is what it should be. In the third book Sgt. Johnsonget attacked by the Flood and they regect him because he has or had a tumor and the Flood cant infect him or dont want to. He also got regeneration sort of proporties or something from the Floods DNA or somthing in him, I'm havn't read the books in a while so tell me if something is wrong. Well what if some of the Forerunners, what if this happened to them and when the Halos went off It didn't totally kill them, but mutated they're apperance into what the Prophets look like, they get angry like you said because everyone is dead and theyre all emotion cause all their friends are dead and drastically destroy all the technology they can leaving a few Fore runners things. They also make an agreement that there will be no more wars or fighting so there will not be any more unneeded death and turn into the weak piles of crap they are now. After a few generations they relize they were stupidand decide to start advancing technology again but only technology on medical stuff, physics, astronomy, and transportation, no weapons because they still dont want any destruction. All of this is slightly inferior technology to the original fore runner's because it was destroyed and they had to fix it and then revese engineer it. They had some success with it. When they can no longer fit the population on their planet they must colonize other planets. On one planet thier are two races of aliens fighting a war. Since the Prophets were mutated and thier trates not Forerunner traits were passed on they considered themselves a different race and look to the Forerunners as Gods of a sort as did one of the fighting races "The Elites" who also came accross Forerunner constructs. These two team up the Elites fight for them so the prophets do not lose any more of their kind and the prophets handle religious and forerunner stuff. This was the beginning of the Covenant. As for the other Forerunners they Destroy all technology and must adapt and they de evolve into apes since the Forerunners destroyed and permanantly got rid of the technology which meant no cloths, tools, anything and no reverse engineering, the apes then evolved into to humans. This race has fore runner traits and start to evolve into the Forerunners. When the Covies come across these humans who look somewhat like their gods they become jealous and keep telling themselves that Humans are scum instead of bowing to us like they should. This is where the Human vs. Covenant war begins.

  • 06.21.2004 12:37 PM PDT