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Subject: Elites and Spartans SHOULD have different abilities in MP
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Poll: Should elites and spartans have different abilities in MP?  [closed]
Yes:  31%
(16 Votes)
No:  69%
(35 Votes)
Total Votes: 51

If you think of the the elites and spartans differences what comes to mind?
lots of things, the elites are faster, stronger, and more agile.
spartans can take more damage, smarter, better accuracy maybe?

but the point is that I think in multiplayer there should be some minor differences between the two. Not enough to make one side more favorable, but, if you think about it they should have their differences. Maybe the elites can jump higher and run faster but the spartans can take more damage.
thoughts.....

  • 06.21.2004 4:40 PM PDT
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they should be exactly the same. no class based -blam!-.

  • 06.21.2004 4:41 PM PDT
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Elites are just as strong, but the Spartans are faster I think. All the Spartans had better than average reflexes, speed, brains, and strength. Their all ready good reflexes/speed was boosted by the Mjolnir armour so much that it shatters normal bones.

  • 06.21.2004 4:43 PM PDT
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I think that the abilities of each Elite should vary acording to rank (color of armor), as well as their abilities being different from SPARTANS.

  • 06.21.2004 4:43 PM PDT
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im just talking about slight differences.
not enought so everyone will want to be on that certain side. keep it balanced

  • 06.21.2004 4:45 PM PDT
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i odnt think so because then elite vs. human battles woud be unfair for the people who are used to fighting with spartans i think it should all be exactly equal, i actually think it was kinda stupid to have it elites in muliplayer int he first place but bungie will figure it out lol

  • 06.21.2004 4:47 PM PDT
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Maybe slight differences. It would be cool as long as it's balanced, but it's sort of hard to balance stuff like that. If Bungie toned the ability up or down just a tiny bit too much, then it would be unbalanced and everybody would use one type (Spartan or Elite).

  • 06.21.2004 4:48 PM PDT
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Yeah, me too.

Blue=all around skills
Red=stronger melee atacks, better aim.
Gold=high jumping, better aim.
Light blue=stealthy
Black=all around skills, but better at everything than blue (rookie Elites)

  • 06.21.2004 4:49 PM PDT
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I whole-heartedly disagree. Even the most subtle discrepancies between Elites and Spartans would be enough to throw Halo 2's delicate balance into a sporadic free-fall. Perhaps some very slight changes to an Elite’s HUD but certainly nothing that will alter the playability of the character. In addition, Elites and Spartans should be the only playable characters in multiplayer.

  • 06.21.2004 4:50 PM PDT
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This is about MULTIPLAYER!!! NOT SINGLEPLAYER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyway...
Yea slight differences would be cool, but they'd balance them so there are different advantages to what you pick.
Anyone know if they'll allow you to mix in elites with spartans on the same team? Or just spartan vs elite or spartan/spartan, elite/elite. I think it would be cool if it could mix.

  • 06.21.2004 4:52 PM PDT
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yea bungie said you could mix

  • 06.21.2004 4:55 PM PDT
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I think that there should be some differerences. Like a spartan can drive human vehicles better than Elites can and vica verca. Also, the Elites should have more auccuarcy when using plasma weapons and the spartans should have more auccuarcy when using human weapons. That way, every side has advantages and disadvantes that will balence out.

  • 06.21.2004 4:56 PM PDT
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they should have that side strafe dodge (like in single player) and should be able to roar!

  • 06.21.2004 4:57 PM PDT
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I would love to play as a Grunt with a FRC.

  • 06.21.2004 4:58 PM PDT
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yea, small opposites that equal each other out.

  • 06.21.2004 4:58 PM PDT
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Posted by: johny joe
they should have that side strafe dodge (like in single player) and should be able to roar!


Good idea!
Since Elites never had helmet lights, the white button could make them roar.
It could be used to distract/intimidate.

  • 06.21.2004 5:00 PM PDT
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or just for fun
;)

and if they do like 3 different things you could get a group together and have beat boxing elites

  • 06.21.2004 5:03 PM PDT
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...?...

  • 06.21.2004 5:04 PM PDT
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Posted by: TheSpartan no117
yea bungie said you could mix


Where.

  • 06.21.2004 5:04 PM PDT

SB-117

equal = balanced

  • 06.21.2004 5:06 PM PDT
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actually, i am not sure, there was another thread about this topic and someone had the link. so im not sure where i got this info.

  • 06.21.2004 5:07 PM PDT
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Posted by: ash55
equal = balanced

no balanced is not neccesarily equal. You could have 20 one pound weights or one 20 pound weight but they weigh the same thing.

Have the different abilities makes things different and more challenging. As long as the changes have their opposites. Like if elites are bad with human guns then spartans are bad with covenant guns, that is assuming there is an equal number of human and covenant guns.

  • 06.21.2004 5:10 PM PDT
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Posted by: TheSpartan no117
actually, i am not sure, there was another thread about this topic and someone had the link. so im not sure where i got this info.


To the best of my knowledge, Bungie has not yet confirmed the ability to mix Elites and Spartans in team games. I'd be interested to find out otherwise, but I'm rather certain there has been no official word.

  • 06.21.2004 5:11 PM PDT
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Getting more specific, the elites could have better control of the ghost while the spartans have better control with the warthog and the atv. The elites could fire plasma weapons faster longer, and the spartans could reload their weapons faster than an elite could.

  • 06.21.2004 5:15 PM PDT
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They should be the same.. its just a cosmetic difference. It would be pretty cheep if they were different.

  • 06.21.2004 5:16 PM PDT

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