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Posted by: ELEMENTT_
No way the brutes can take an Elite, even if the brutes are stronger than the elites it doesn't matter, muscles don't win wars, brains does. Elites always going to be the best of the best of the covenant army. I mean, Elites are suposed to be the counter part of the spartans, they're smart, strong, fast, and have the most famous battlecry of all time. The Brutes maybe are faster and stronger than some elites, but there's no way a brute can take a spec ops elite. By the time a brute rush to him, he would have a plasma nade sticked to his ass, lol, that would be cool to watch.

Wort Wort Wort!!!!!!.

Long live the Elites!.


brutes are stronger than hunters smarter than elites read the books.

  • 06.22.2004 11:39 AM PDT
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this is for all you elite fans:
brutes are going to kick ass in Halo 2 and the reason why the elites command the covie armies is because the brutes are prophet bodyguards not main army troops like the elites

  • 06.22.2004 11:44 AM PDT
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well all said, master chief still kicks ass.

  • 06.22.2004 11:52 AM PDT

i think it doesn't matter which is stronger, because i'll kill either one.

  • 06.22.2004 12:03 PM PDT
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my thoughts exactly It don't matter there all going to DIE!

  • 06.22.2004 12:07 PM PDT

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For all you smart asses,an Elite packs the same shield as Master Chief,the only thing that seperates an elite from a human is the way aliens think,and the way humans think,and brutes look like balls of yarn if u ask me.Heil Elites.

  • 06.22.2004 12:13 PM PDT
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it will be very interesting to see how the brutes are implemented. From what I can gather from the books and the internet, they are incredibly strong, and rival the power of hunters. Because of this, I don't think we'll see them too often, or at least not in large groups.

  • 06.22.2004 12:16 PM PDT

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if i can kill a brute with two nades,then i'd be very disapointed with all this "talk" about the brutes,we all know,that the only way a hunter can be killed with a smile on is with the pistol.

[Edited on 6/22/2004 12:26:17 PM]

  • 06.22.2004 12:24 PM PDT

maybe unlike the hunters they wont fight in pairs or packs the elites and hunter usally pair up but if u read the halo books when one hunter dies the other calls it his brother or somthing and gets really mad so if the brutes fight in pairs maybe they will be deployed once in a while not like grunts and jacklels and what about those other cretures in the halo book that repair stuff do u think that they will play a part in halo 2

  • 06.22.2004 12:32 PM PDT
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The Brutes, I think are weak compared to say an Elite or Hunter. I think they are moderate enimies. Like in the E3 video. They got killed with little effort. Like someone menitoned. The 2 BR shots to the gut.

  • 06.22.2004 12:34 PM PDT
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Posted by: JimBobJoe
The Brutes, I think are weak compared to say an Elite or Hunter. I think they are moderate enimies. Like in the E3 video. They got killed with little effort. Like someone menitoned. The 2 BR shots to the gut.


You think wrong =D

read the books...

  • 06.22.2004 12:40 PM PDT
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Alright everyone, here are the facts. I'm going to lay my cards on the table and let you make your own decisions.

Brutes - They are NOT the prophets body guard, they are guarded by a higher class of elite we have not seen yet, the elite protectors. read first strike page 339. the very fact that a brute is in the high chamber causes unrest to the elites.
Brutes guard the holy temples and the things of religious significance to the covenant. therefore both castes have important tasks.
yes brutes are stronger than elites and they have killed a spartan, Grace, IN CLOSE COMBAT (most likely)

if you refer to fall of reach very near the end, John fights an elite hand to hand and they are equally matched, he has a tough time. yes brutes are stronger but not by as much as what people think. even master chief could tear a hunter in two if he felt like it, i mean he can flip scorpion tanks and therefore so can elites. the term is an expression of strength.
Brutes have better armour than elites and it sounds like they can take a beating but elites have energy shields and have you stopped to contemplate just how good the energy shielding of the HIGHEST elite rank will be that we havn't fought yet?

For all you Hunter fans don't worry, we all know they have kick ass armour and that shield that is just plain annoying, no honour will be lost to them.

Now I know it may sound like I'm knocking Brutes and many of you on these forums know I'm abit of an elite fan but I'm just trying to be fair. Brutes WILL be tough, they will be kick ass SOB's and will be responsible for your death countless times. but so will elites like the many times on Halo now and the trademark laugh when they kill you.
I'm not saying Brutes won't be hard, they will be. but i think the big nasty new covenant factor may be causing a stretch in the boundries of how strong they are. look at what i've said and think about it. if anything they will be a elites equal due to each castes unique qualities (and yes i too think elites are smarter). if brutes we're truely better they would be of a higher caste but they arn't and thats why there is unrest between the two (well a reason anyway)
don't flame me, i'm just approaching the matter in a logical way.

  • 06.22.2004 12:52 PM PDT

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your so right and cool zamamee. Yeah that sounds good I never really thought of brutes as stronger than elites, and therefore stronger than the chief. I think like you said elites should be the strongest because they are equal to the humans strongest soldier.

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if the brutes were strong how come they are part of the covanent wich is run by elites and prophets? this means that they are strong but they are still weaker then the elites becuse they were conquered like the rest of the covanent.

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i think brutes will cause more deaths on one on one combat elites have the advantage of numbers the brute that was killed in the e3 demo was also melee atacked 2 times this would be enough to almost kill an elite and this was also useing a extra easy mode to insure the player wouldn't die before they beat the level so in short the brutes will be much more chalengeing than the e3 demo sugests but the elites 1 on 1 with a hunter would die and a hunter one on one with a brute would die sou wouldn't it make since that a elite vs a brute the brute would win

what i want to know is how many energy sword atacks it takes to kil a brute vs how many energy sword atacks it takes to kill an elite

  • 06.22.2004 1:18 PM PDT

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An elite would be smart and shoot the orange spot where a brute would waste time and energy tearing it apart.

  • 06.22.2004 1:20 PM PDT
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u fool didnt u see my post? the elites own the brutes becuse they are in the elites covenant collective!

  • 06.22.2004 1:21 PM PDT
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well, we don't know if they're THAT dumb but its possible with halo 2's more belivable A.I system
for all we know the brutes may have been part of the covenant longer than we know, they have only just revealed themselves. its like elites, they wern't confirmed to exist until the fall of reach which is pretty late in the human covenant war and they were one of the Founding castes!

[Edited on 6/22/2004 1:24:11 PM]

  • 06.22.2004 1:21 PM PDT
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it says so in the post on HBO forums that the elites were ther founding members of the covanent caste system. and if brutes were so good why arentthey commanders on the battlefeild or starship captains? the only thing they are good for is intimidating people there comparible to bouncers at clubs that look big but some of them cant actually fight.

  • 06.22.2004 1:26 PM PDT
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1 thing ok the brutes are NOT and i repeat NOT in any way smarter then the elite... also how do ANY of you know if the brute is in fact faster then elites, they might just be realy slow..... what i would like to see from the elites is a VERY big AI boost becuz in halo 1 they where dum as a brick and it would make sence to me if bungie gave the elites AI from halo 1 to the brutes.... dos anyone agree ?

  • 06.22.2004 1:47 PM PDT
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not too bad an idea, it could work but i think A.I is being improved for all covenant races.
No-one really knows how fast Brutes are.

  • 06.22.2004 2:36 PM PDT

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To answer the dude that asked how many energy sword slashes can an elite take,and a brute take,all depends on the difficulty...we all know that amster chief and the elites have the same shield...ok in halo 1,when playing the game on easy,it would take 3 slashes to kill you..once takes the shield out,two leaves u with the last red bar,and three,finally kills you,in normal difficulty,it takes two slashes,one leaves u witht he last bar ,and the second oen,ofcourse,kills you,..now,heroic and legendary,if u wanna die quick and there's en elite commander(yellow onws who usually carry a plasma sword),just get close to him:).i also tried getting slashed in a banshee,it can really damage the vehicle.so IF the new and improved elites do hit you in halo 2,they will kill you with only one lil slash(the lunge attack)the melee version of the plasma sword will only drop the shields.and edventually kill youlol.so as far as brutes and elites,niether of them can witstand a lunge attack.

  • 06.22.2004 3:09 PM PDT
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Are you insane?!?!?!?!?! The Brute will be the strongest ever. Imagine something as quick and intelligent like an elite crossed with the hunters brute strength. The slug thrower is like the energy sword. 2 hits and your dead (or one, who knows?). Red and blue elites aren't that strong anyway. One pistol whip gets their sheilds down and another two shots kills em. Yellow and Black Elites are strong but there aren't enough of them in the game. Brutes are gonna suck (in a way thatr means that they're gonna be as annoying as hell). Why would the Prophets assign anyone but the strongest and smartest to be thier guards? Oh and another thing... it takes 3 melee attacks to kill one.

[Edited on 6/22/2004 3:29:15 PM]

  • 06.22.2004 3:27 PM PDT

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haha i think ur insane!what kind of smart guy,as u called it,would drive against a wall and die,with a veihcle as manuerable or however u spell that..as a ghost!!i mean come on.!think about it.how the elites drove the banshees and ghost in halo 1,and their ai was terribly horrible.they had the brain of a two year old.even in legendary,although they're my fav character out of all humans and covenants.now back to the wall thingie,i know u saw the 2003 E3 demo..just think about it!and as storng as a hunter?!?all of u that are saying this will be soo disapointed!!let's just wait,and u'll see what i mean.just to be ahead.put halo in legendary and try to kill a hunter with granades,any type.then in halo 2,try the same thing with a brute.

[Edited on 6/22/2004 3:55:20 PM]

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