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Subject: The M6D Pistol
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First of all i wasnt complaining. I am god with the pistol and i love it personally.
So dont get ur panties in a bundle u noob. Just Kiddin

  • 02.15.2005 8:17 AM PDT

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We didnt say you were. Just people in General who complain

  • 02.15.2005 12:54 PM PDT
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Ok....watever

  • 02.15.2005 1:11 PM PDT
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Ok....watever

  • 02.15.2005 1:12 PM PDT

It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has given us the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier, not the lawyer, who has given us the right to a fair trial. And it is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves the flag, whose coffin is draped in the flag that allows the protester to burn the flag.Father Dennis Edward O'Brien, USMC

ok then fine

  • 02.15.2005 1:16 PM PDT
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We should still complain, Bungie has Halo three and the ability to update games over the internet.
The Battle Rifle is an insuficient replacemant for the Pistol. It cannot Kill people effectively at mid range distances (Being from Camp Froman to the other side of the map) you can take a sniper out of zoom with one of the three bullets but it would be hard to kill a compitent sniper at mid range or longer with the battle rifle.

If we're going for military efficeny, the guns in halo 2 suck. We currently have an assualt rifle with a 6X computerized scope, hooked up to a hud, and it has a clip of six high explosive rounds. It's rounds are 5.56 or .223 and the HE rounds are20x85mm.
The Assualt rifle is 7.62 mm or .308 (like a garand)
The M6D is 12.7 HEmm I think thats .50 HE but I may be wrong.
The sniper is 14.5 mm almost like http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn46-e.htm or an anti-tank sniper
An army could use theese weapons, if they were poor or needed to equip alot of soldiers, like in Halo
halo 2
The Battle rifle is 9.5 mm which isnt better than the 7.62 because it is a pistol round
Sniper, same
Magnum, odd name magnum refers to the fact that there is extra gunpowder in the round, but it is laughably weak, it is the same size but it is almost three times weaker.

These guns imply no evolution in firearms.

Another odd bit.
It would appear that both sides decided to make their arsenal really weak.
Plasma burn? "We found our plasma makes the enemy slow down" "Really?" "Yes" "Remove that effect" "What!? But-" "Remove it" "Ok"
HE rounds? "These rounds really hurt the Covenent" "Really?" "Yes" "Destroy all of them" "The covenent?" "No the rounds" "But-" "Do it"
Sniper recoil? "This gun has no recoil" "Really?" "Yes" "Give it recoil" "But-" "Now"
Unless both ships were carrying experemental technology, but put the makers, and blueprints on both ships.
That is the M6D from a realistic point of view.
As a gamer, well just read my sig.

  • 02.15.2005 2:50 PM PDT
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I can see your point about the non-futuristic advancements. But, still, I think it is actually a little bit fairer, and harder, than Halo (Halo 2). Yeah, the improvments seem like downgrades, but that is what make the game more fair.

  • 02.15.2005 4:42 PM PDT

It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has given us the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier, not the lawyer, who has given us the right to a fair trial. And it is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves the flag, whose coffin is draped in the flag that allows the protester to burn the flag.Father Dennis Edward O'Brien, USMC

Somebody said this before, but HALO is based 500+ years in the future. You would think or weapons get better

  • 02.15.2005 4:50 PM PDT
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Posted by: EAGLES5
You know whats weird is that there was kind of a downgrade in technology. A super pistol to a normal pistol.


I can explain it though. Not the truth but it would fit in the books. On the Pillar of Autum the Spartans originall had there own weapons locker with there own guns. This locker got destoryed during the fight for Reach. Maybe in the books they could somehow explain that the pistol used in H1 was a spartan pistol were as the one in H2 was a normal everyday marine pistol. I know this isnt true in any way, but it could be used as an excuse,

Too bad marines used the pistol too =/
I can think of a much better explanation.
With the introduction of the Battle Rifle, the human forces started to turn away from the M6D Pistol. A new, sleek sidearm which would be easily held in one hand, carried, switch to and from and reloaded would be needed for empty-clip and emergency situations.
This Magnum developed, it's fast rate of fire, good clip size and fast reload and arm time led it to become a new favourite of the human forces.

  • 02.15.2005 5:01 PM PDT
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Well if you think about hte pistol was good all around, but it would suck in H2. Before you go into a rage and tell me I'm a fool, think that if the pistol was in the game now, you wouldn't be able to dual-wield it. Since it had a scope it would be impossible to wield, and someone with two rapid fireing magnums would take you out. The pistol also made up for the loss of the scope by giving it a faster shot rate. I think the new pistol is actually better.

  • 02.15.2005 5:47 PM PDT
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Posted by: Masta Top Hat
Well if you think about hte pistol was good all around, but it would suck in H2. Before you go into a rage and tell me I'm a fool, think that if the pistol was in the game now, you wouldn't be able to dual-wield it. Since it had a scope it would be impossible to wield, and someone with two rapid fireing magnums would take you out. The pistol also made up for the loss of the scope by giving it a faster shot rate. I think the new pistol is actually better.


r u kidding me u must be a noob so let me explain...
bungie just has to take off the zoom when duel weilding..
and u said pistols rapid fire??????
r u kiddin me u noob they dont rapid fire r u stupid?
the m6d is just to powerful for the new magnums


case closed


+ u r a noob Masta Top Hat

  • 02.15.2005 8:01 PM PDT
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Top Hat means that the MAGNUMS fire fast and that is what makes for the M6D's scope, dumb e. They took the scope from the M6D, so one could dual wield it, to make up for that loss, they improved the fire rate. Do we have to spell it out for you?



Oh, and i think that it is YOU who is noob, my fine sir.

  • 02.15.2005 8:31 PM PDT
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Posted by: BoxMonster13
The pistol made Halo 1 what it was. All of the game play centered around picking up the little silver gun because you could use it in any situation. I think that that is why I would have to say that it is a horribly cheap weapon. While I love the power and design that make the Halo 1 pistol almost perfect, I hate the fact that it is overused in all gametypes. If you are any good, and you had a pistol you could beat almost anyone. I think that the changes Bungie made to the Halo 2 pistol were definitely needed. It balances the weapons out, and makes game play much more interesting and diverse.

ps I loved the pistol, but people should stop complaining about losing it, Bungie made the right choice.


I could see not liking it if you played with alien weapons on. But most of us that enjoyed the pistol played with all human weapons, so everyone had one. We played against some people that insisted on hosting. They just had to have alien weapons. But, they NEVER touched them. They just wanted to run to the pistol and dominate because we didn't have one. In that example I could see why someone wouldn't like the pistol. Play with all human weapons. Makes for a more enjoyable game anyway.

  • 02.15.2005 11:37 PM PDT
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Posted by: Getacible
Top Hat means that the MAGNUMS fire fast and that is what makes for the M6D's scope, dumb e. They took the scope from the M6D, so one could dual wield it, to make up for that loss, they improved the fire rate. Do we have to spell it out for you?

Oh, and i think that it is YOU who is noob, my fine sir.


You don't even make any sense. I can't tell what side you're on. They could have left the old pistol in, and had the new magnum. They could have just left the pistol a single wield weapon, while being able to duel wield the magnum.

  • 02.15.2005 11:39 PM PDT

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the pistol is a gun from a video game. noone will care in a year so stop

  • 02.16.2005 3:44 AM PDT
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Actually one m6d could beat duelwielding magnums u noobs.

It only takes 3 shots to the head to kill sum 1 if u want to argue with me u will loose u stupid -blam!- noobs..........

Plus i am master with the m6d so some of u mite not no that the m6d can kill sum1 with only 3 shots to the head..

thats becuz u r noobs

God i love being right

  • 02.16.2005 7:25 AM PDT
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i agree with heavy metal too he is right that it could only be a single wield...

it is still stronger than 2 magnums..

but i do like the idea of dual m6d's

  • 02.16.2005 7:28 AM PDT
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Posted by: KoOtZ 42
i agree with heavy metal too he is right that it could only be a single wield...

it is still stronger than 2 magnums..

but i do like the idea of dual m6d's


I'm not so sure if it is stronger. Played H1 on XBC for the first time in 3 months Saturday. It's shoots VERY slowly compared to the magnum. And, everyone talks about these three shot kills. I've logged probably over 10,000 games on XBC. Three shot kills are STILL hard to pull off. When the other person is dodging and you are under fire, a three shot kill is hard to get.

  • 02.16.2005 1:14 PM PDT
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the halo 1 pistol was the 1 man killing machine, but the reason bungie downgraded it was to make halo more of the military space shooter game it should be, i mean marines in real life will use a rifle to take on enemys, the pistol is just a sidearm for halo 2, thats why the made the pistol into the battle rifle.

  • 02.16.2005 1:31 PM PDT
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first of all, kootz, go home. goku is right, they made the game more realistic by making the BR the main weapon, though i do think they should have made the BR a little better, but that's not the point. And again the pistol is a SIDEARM, not meant to be a main weapon, but, Bungie made the pistol a little too strong, so they downgraded it in H2.

  • 02.16.2005 1:44 PM PDT

It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has given us the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier, not the lawyer, who has given us the right to a fair trial. And it is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves the flag, whose coffin is draped in the flag that allows the protester to burn the flag.Father Dennis Edward O'Brien, USMC

Say it again

HALO is 500++ years in the future. THe weapons are bound to be better.

  • 02.16.2005 2:10 PM PDT
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The weird thing when comparing the pistols from the two games is that the original was the M6D, in Halo 2 it is the M6C. Implying it is the same weapon. In fact if you look at the game manual it says it is the same gun just without a scope. Yet the M6C doesn't have nearly as much stopping power. You can still get quick kills with it when you dual wield it with other weapons but not by itself. Even though it is supposed to be the same gun.

  • 02.16.2005 3:15 PM PDT
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Posted by: dragoongoku
the halo 1 pistol was the 1 man killing machine, but the reason bungie downgraded it was to make halo more of the military space shooter game it should be, i mean marines in real life will use a rifle to take on enemys, the pistol is just a sidearm for halo 2, thats why the made the pistol into the battle rifle.



no they did not make the pistol into the battle rifle

i hate noobs

  • 02.16.2005 3:18 PM PDT
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kootz, just shut up about noobs. but you are right, they didn't make the pistol INTO the BR, but they are very similar, implying that it is supposed to take the pistol's place, as the staple gun in the game.

  • 02.16.2005 8:18 PM PDT
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what does staple gun mean the mrd waz good

  • 02.17.2005 1:56 PM PDT