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Subject: OMG I know what the new enemy that flips a warthog is
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Posted by: Lifeforce
Evil Spartans= Bungie's on Crack...

Well, I kind of did supply them some. Keep it a secret.

  • 06.22.2004 11:43 AM PDT
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i dont know bungie may do something like that ,they seem like a really laid back company. and it would be a good surprise. do anybody know if the floods is coming back

  • 06.22.2004 11:47 AM PDT
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dude, wtf are you talkin about in your thread name...and wher in the -blam- did this idea of a squad of evil spartans arise from?...deep in your vast imagination...? KotT

  • 06.22.2004 11:48 AM PDT
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Evil Spartans are actually a possibility.

There is much evidence that Colonel Ackerson is creating his own Spartan project. Yes the is the document that is SIII but there is a much bigger piece of evidence leading towards ackerson behind a spartan III project or at least being in charge of it.
Bring your attention to first strike, chapter 11 page 103.

I quote: 'something extroadinary had just been revealed-there was some kind of backup plan on par with the spartan program, and ackerson was behind it'

Another quote "Halseys spartan II's we're such a great suc-"
Ackerson shot the general a look that could have blasted through battle plate.

So is there a spartan 3 program, or at least something like that? Sure is, all evidence points that way and i'm flabbergasted no-one has brought it up yet.

Now to do with the spartans being 'evil' i don't think the spartans will be evil but ackerson is obviously going above ONI. and he isn't a character to be trusted. will the spartan III's listen to the UNSC, i doubt it. they will only answer to ackerson and we all know how ackerson feels about halseys projects. enemy spartans are a BIG possibility.
as for mendrez, i really don't know

  • 06.22.2004 11:58 AM PDT
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Posted by: Lifeforce
Oh, and by the way. There have been many posts about the thought of Spartan 3's being the secret characters. In almost all of them, it was a possibility to have the Spartan 3's be the new secret character, but probably not. But Evil SpArTaNs!? lol! Come on! Each posting of the Spartan 3's have been concluded the same way... unlikely. Evil Spartans= Bungie's on Crack...


I think Evil Spartans would be cool. Finally, we could have something challenging to fight. Imagine them in Legandary.

  • 06.22.2004 12:08 PM PDT

Ackerson had 2 folders in his computer, and one was also called "king under the moutain". He must've been talking about Menachite Mountain. I don't know why, but it must have something to do with Menachite.

  • 06.22.2004 12:11 PM PDT
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Yea it did say that the spartan 3s were takin off reach. In the fall of reach it says that mendez is off to train the next batch of spartans and it did say that that was the last time MC ever say mendez, but it doesnt mean hes dead.

O and Halsey did look in the file named S-III and it brought up a map and she transfered it to her data pad and took it with her. So most likey Halsey and Kelly went to get the Spartan 3 so that she could bring them to earth to fight. How else do u suppose the MC defeats all the covenant on earth and then gets to leave and fight at the home world. That is just way too big of a job for one person. I know the MC is good, but hes not that good.

  • 06.22.2004 1:08 PM PDT
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O yea and the reason they are takin off reach is because the navy was becoming too supicious and they didnt really like 12 year olds kicking their asses.

  • 06.22.2004 1:10 PM PDT
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So most likely it is not the S-III that will flip a warthog and be an enemy. Why would spartans be helping the covenant, that pretty much dooms humanity.

  • 06.22.2004 1:13 PM PDT
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i think evil spartans would be kinda cheesy, but if it is, who cares, it'll still (hopefully) be put in there in a suspensful and cool way

  • 06.22.2004 1:31 PM PDT
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Ok the only way I could see an Evil Spartan, is from the Covenant. In the books Harvest Colony(First sighting of Covenant by UNSC) was glassed in 2525. In 2552 when, the Halo game takes place and the Covenant destroy Reach, The SPARTANs have been around for nearly 30 yrs. fighting with the Covenant every step of the way. Now in all that time what happened if the covenant captured a SPARTAN and brainwashed, built their own, or spliced it's genes with their own, to make a new "Evil Spartan". That is the only possibility that I can see.
And also, no one knows if Mendez is killed. It just says, "He walked out of the room. That was the last John ever saw of him." If Mendez is alive he would be in his 80s or 90s., and most likely head of all the Navy's NCOs, or retired. No I think the "weapon" that Ackerson was designing was a Bomb, or Cannon. Think of the Grand Cannon from the Robotech/Macross series. Eitrher that, or a body that an AI could function in. Think about it, give a cyborg body with the mind of an AI. That would be powerful indeed.

  • 06.22.2004 1:47 PM PDT
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Col. Ackerson may be evil but I would bet my bottom dollar that Mendez is not gonna flip sides.

I have spent considerable time pondering these things and I am simply puzzled at why Ackerson is trying to keep such a tight lid on his operation especially when they where in that meeting in Australia since there where only high ranking officials there and at that time they need all the help they can get. So why not call them in.

From what they said they have figured out ways to make them grow faster since they are most likly flash clones since I seem to remeber that since the spartans where cloned and the clones sent back in there place they have come up with new ways to clone that actually work (remember Dr Halsey cloning the lung in the taverns below reach not that is the same as cloning a new human but hey they did it in a cave)

This is alot of speculation and I do think there is a possibility of evil spartans (remeber bungie is writing this story so anything can happen) but I doubt it. I think it may be the link to Halo 3 but no one except Jason Jones and some of the bungie staff really know the answer.

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  • 06.22.2004 1:49 PM PDT
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[color=white]Ackerson serves the military. The military serves humanity. Cove is threatening existense of humanity. End of story. [/color]

  • 06.22.2004 1:57 PM PDT
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Posted by: PREDAT0R
[color=white]Ackerson serves the military. The military serves humanity. Cove is threatening existense of humanity. End of story. [/color]


not no sound impolite but thats kind of obvious. but after the war ackerson might look at humanities state thing in his mind he deserves to be world president, has a bunch of special weapons projects and possibly spartans under his command.......you do the math. besides when testing the mark V armour it was pretty obvious ackerson wanted the chief dead, he sent a skyhawk on him! maybe not muhahahaha! evil but a unfortunate accident kind of evil.
ackerson is evil and a key character, i think we should keep an eye on him :)

  • 06.22.2004 2:08 PM PDT

I'll be on my own side.

f.u.c.k.in dumbass

  • 06.22.2004 2:13 PM PDT
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Ackerson will be in Halo 2 because they wouldn't have had him in the book otherwise.

Maybe the Spartan III's will be evil, maybe not. Maybe they all got killed, maybe not. Maybe they will encounter MC, maybe not. Maybe they juggle hackysacks and try to seduce lone marines, maybe not. We won't know till Nov 9

  • 06.22.2004 2:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: Frag Master
Ackerson will be in Halo 2 because they wouldn't have had him in the book otherwise.

Maybe the Spartan III's will be evil, maybe not. Maybe they all got killed, maybe not. Maybe they will encounter MC, maybe not. Maybe they juggle hackysacks and try to seduce lone marines, maybe not. We won't know till Nov 9


good, well made point frag master, as always :)
(apart from the latter points, lol)

  • 06.22.2004 2:31 PM PDT
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I was too lazy to read the entire thread, so excuse me if this was already cleared up. Mendez was begining training on another set of Spartan II's. Ackerson was pissed about them, and Cortana found some files showing he stole copies of the spartans genes, and was starting a project called S-III. People just assumed this meant Spartan III's, and I think it's probably right. I think it would be interesting to have us fighting other humans....because I think Ackerson is that much of a scum bag.

  • 06.22.2004 2:32 PM PDT
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but think of it, fighting a spartan wouldnt be too much of a challenge, and i cant really see boss-battles in halo. you can take one out with a rocket or a grenade, it would be like fighting an elite, but a little harder. i couldnt see them as too much of a threat without many people supporting them.

[Edited on 6/22/2004 2:36:57 PM]

  • 06.22.2004 2:36 PM PDT
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THERE WILL NOT BE EVIL SPARTANS!!!

stupid idea!

Bungie does not make stupid ideas!

MC fights for human kind. I'm sure any other human would also fight for human kind.

[Edited on 6/22/2004 2:50:14 PM]

  • 06.22.2004 2:49 PM PDT
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whats a spartan 3

  • 06.22.2004 2:52 PM PDT
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before the covenant there was many wars. huge factions, rebels and pirates who fought the UNSC. and lets not kid ourselves, even after the covenant war, EVEN IF THERE ARE NO EVIL SPARTANS, we will still be human and fight amoung ourselves, just like we do now

  • 06.22.2004 2:52 PM PDT
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you guys are all wrong. The new enemy is the HULK! Hulk smash!!!

  • 06.22.2004 2:54 PM PDT
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They already have Evil Spartans. Ever play Multiplayer?

Actually, there might be the possibility that Bungie will use one of the most over-used game cliches...he was framed with something, and now the whole of the human race is after him

(If you belive that I actually meant that, then please do everyone a favor, and slap yourself)

  • 06.22.2004 3:05 PM PDT

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