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Subject: I just bought Halo...it fails hard!
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Posted by: Constince Donkey
I had a long, detailed post but I hit back accidentally.
You probably would have been given an error page anyway thanks to Bungie's forum code.

Posted by: Constince Donkey
Point is, if you don't like it don't play it. And please don't troll!
Yeah, but the problem is that's not going to stop other people from playing it. Let's say an extremely popular title (such as COD4 or H3) praised by so many is given criticism from someone like me. I won't play it that much because I think it's mediocre, but that's not going to stop a bunch of other people with lower standards from thinking they're the greatest things than sliced bread. That's not the case here, but I wouldn't use the if-you-don't-like-it-then-avoid-it argument. If someone posts some criticism about Gears of War on a forum dedicated to discussion about that game, then it would not be a good idea to turn him or her away and say, "Why are you even posting on this forum if you dislike the game?" Knamean, dude?

  • 06.04.2008 3:21 PM PDT

It's a BAD thing that there are more hunters?

It's a BAD thing that there's a cool pistol melee animation?

Hah, whatever.

1 > 3

That is all.

edit: Oh my god. I just saw you whine about the pistol having a zoom. Now I KNOW you're joking.

[Edited on 06.05.2008 3:52 AM PDT]

  • 06.05.2008 3:51 AM PDT

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alrighty...everyone has their opinion

  • 06.05.2008 4:12 AM PDT
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If you did not play it before Halo 2 came out, then you'll hate it.

  • 06.06.2008 1:26 PM PDT

Posted by: ST
Must be weird to have played H3 before Halo...oh well, your loss my friend!


Halo CE was the last halo I played, and I think it is much better than the others in terms of weapon balance, armor, and campaign.

Except the pistol, but that is just a normal multiplayer concern.

  • 06.06.2008 3:58 PM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

Maybe you shouldn't whine so much and realise that it alot of the things you mentioned could be remedied by being a better player. If you really want a game to complain about go play Quest 64 (yeah I'm raggin' on Quest, what of it?)

  • 06.06.2008 7:27 PM PDT

"Opinion is like a pendulum and obeys the same law. If it goes past the centre of gravity on one side, it must go a like distance on the other; and it is only after a certain time that it finds the true point at which it can remain at rest."
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To this day Halo CE is my favorite FPS.

And that is not subject to change.

  • 06.06.2008 7:30 PM PDT
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  • 06.06.2008 8:21 PM PDT

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dude if u had started with CE and then played halo 2 and then 3 then u would have more appreiciation for a classic game like this . back then that game was amazing!( still is ) i wish i had a copy :( mine broke :'( .where did u get it for $10? not that i wouldnt pay 50 :p

[Edited on 06.06.2008 10:42 PM PDT]

  • 06.06.2008 10:40 PM PDT

How naive!
That's like saying the super mario brothers games suck, because thewy lack the new features.
That's like saying the original mario party sucked, because it lacks features.
That's like saying Final Fantasy VII sucks, because it lacks the features in Final Fantasy XII.
Remember, without Halo, there's be no Halo 3.

  • 06.06.2008 10:55 PM PDT
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Ok seriously like that guy said is it bad that all that stuff is in there

Theres alot of flaws because a dead line had to be met and it still came out amazing

how could you possible hate the pistol zoom?

[Edited on 06.07.2008 12:38 AM PDT]

  • 06.07.2008 12:34 AM PDT
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ARBITER, I CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S NOT BUTTER!!! WORT WORT WORT.

First off, there's a pocket reload dude. XXY has the gun reload while you're using the other. This doesn't work with the shotty. That's solved.

It takes 150 bullets to kill an Elite on Legendary while on full auto from across the map. Do you need an aimbot?

That toss is the throw of success. Who complains about that?

There's no more than 10 on any level, and it may only be 8. Or 6. What's the matter, the big hunter's too hard for you with their grenade launcher style fuel rods? That's the way they're built to be man.

You must be using legacy or green thumb dude, because you can aim and drive the tank at the same time. Don't just hold the stick to the corner... learn to use some finesse. Is 1 sensitivity too high for you too?

The only turret that stinks is the Scorpion's machine gun. It's not effective at all on full auto.. tapping the trigger helps a LOT.

Perhaps you should rethink the scope on the pistol. In Halo 3, you have 5x zoom with a pistol. In Halo, there's only a 2x zoom. It's an effective spotting tool.

If you didn't notice, the story isn't contradictory to the Halo standards, unlike your Halo 3. There's a forum for you. Go there.

  • 06.07.2008 1:15 AM PDT
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There's really no way to describe...
The feeling of walking around on Halo for the first time.
As an old school gamer...

Anyone who thinks it is crap...
Should just peer around for a few seconds...
As to what was being offered up as "new" and "great" during that time.
Nothing exists out of its own place and time.
Tell me this was/is not (still) a great experience.

Riiggghhtt.

  • 06.07.2008 10:11 PM PDT

why would you play H3 without having played CE or H2 first. You have no idea whats going on story wise!

I also can't believe you don't like the pistol flip animation. WTF is wrong with you. I was pissed they got rid of it in the following two. The campaign missions rip the face of the ones in 2 and 3. I agree the tank aiming is a little wack but you get used to it and its actually ballin once you know what your doing. the ghost and warthog in CE are the best. they actually go fast and contrary to what you might think, they are actually alot more powerful and accurate. Theres also no rocket shot delay after a melee.

The game isnt a failure, you are for not playing it first and then halo2 and then halo 3. Your the only person I've ever met who actually doesnt like CE. So clearly theres something wrong with you.

I agree the AR sucks, but use it against the hunters if you dont have a pistol. IF you do have a pistol, shoot them in the back once and they die. So its not really a problme.

You need to play the multiplayer too , so you can see the difference in that and how much better it is..

[Edited on 06.07.2008 11:37 PM PDT]

  • 06.07.2008 11:33 PM PDT

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Since everyone else is taking the time to counter his arguments, I thought that I would join in.

-"The assault rifle is useless and takes 1/2 hour to reload" Yes, the assault rifle is generally considered to be the most worthless weapon in Halo 1. Just substitute it with the more accurate plasma rifle. And if you absolutely must use the AR, firing in short bursts works wonders, especially at medium range.

- "The ghost handles like -blam!-" I know that the ghost may seem to be more "slippery" in movement than it's H2 and H3 counterparts, but it really isn't that difficult to drive.

- "You can't aim and drive at the same time with the tank (how retarted is that)" It's been a while since I've driven a tank in Halo: CE, but I thought you could. Strafing might be a bit more difficult, but I haven't had a problem dodging fire and killing the enemy with the tank.

-"It takes 150 bullets to kill an elite" Again, burst fire helps a lot. On Heroic difficulty, I can usually kill an Elite Minor at medium range and still have anywhere from 1/3 to 1/2 a magazine left if I fire in bursts of 3 to 5 rounds. If you're using a pistol, it should only take about 1/2 of a clip to kill an Elite Minor on Heroic.

-"The pistol has that stupid flip toss animation after each melee" How could you not love that animation? I miss it. Why did you take it out of Halo 2 and 3, Bungie? Why? :(

-"There are like 75 hunters on each level" If I remember correctly, the level that had the most Hunters was Silent Cartographer, which had 6. Compared to the Hunters in Halo 2 and 3, the Hunters in Halo: CE are very easy. If they see you, simply run up close to the Hunter (dodging fire as you go, which shouldn't be difficult), then let him charge you. When he tries to melee you, side step. He'll charge right past you, and his orange back should be exposed. Fire one pistol or sniper round into his back and he'll collapse. Easy.

-"You can't even freaking change your controller settings in mid game...ARE YOU KIDDING ME?" This has been stated before, but Halo came out in 2001. I think the reason you hate the game is because you started playing it with modern shooter expectations.

-"Turrets and vehicle weapons have HORRIBLE aim." The Scorpion machine gun does, but everything else is fine. The Warthog turret may not be quite as accurate as those in Halo 2 and 3, but it is still a beast of a weapon. Even at longer ranges, it could cut down infantry and light vehicles with ease.

-"and the list goes on for miles" Please post them. I'm enjoying this. :)

You should have started playing the game with lower expectations. The game is 7 years old, so of course it's going to be outdated in some ways. But if you don't expect the game to have the level of quality that modern shooters have going into Halo, you're going to have a great time. When I played Marathon: Durandal when I downloaded it from XBLA, I didn't expect modern graphics and gameplay that come with shooters these days when I started playing, and I absolutely loved it. Your impossible expectations probably ruined an otherwise great experience.




[Edited on 06.08.2008 2:18 AM PDT]

  • 06.08.2008 2:14 AM PDT

1.Arkham Asylum, 2.Mass Effect, 3.Halo CE, 4.Mass Effect 2, 5.Halo 2, 6.Splinter Cell Double Agent, 7.Gears of War 2, 8.Medievil, 9.Oblivion, 10.Crash Team Racing

That stuff is not your history

That's the way life goes. I hear some people praising Marathon, I have played them a little but can't think any reason why I wouldn't be Halo over them. All the ratings and popularity follow timeline, would Ocarina of TIme, Final Fantasy 7 or Super Mario Bros get 10/10 ratings today? Opposed to GTAIV?

  • 06.08.2008 5:21 AM PDT
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Posted by: SKiTz THEGEMINI
-There are like 75 hunters on each level
If only, that would be awesome.
Posted by: SentientGiraffe
Posted by: SKiTz THEGEMINI
Ps. The pistol has zoom! Were the Bungie developers drunk when they made this game?


I did a Google search. Apparently there are a lot of drunk people...
Results 1 - 10 of about 33,000 for "pistol scopes". (0.19 seconds)
I got 419000, lol.

  • 06.08.2008 11:41 AM PDT
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Posted by: SKiTz THEGEMINI
I just bought Halo Combat Evolved because I had never played it and I like Halo 3 so much so I figured...what the heck.

This is easily one of the top 5 worst games ever.

-The assault rifle is useless and takes 1/2 hour to reload
-The ghost handles like -blam!-
-You can't aim and drive at the same time with the tank (how retarded is that)
-It takes 150 bullets to kill an elite
-The pistol has that stupid flip toss animation after each melee
-There are like 75 hunters on each level
-You can't even freaking change your controller settings in mid game...ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
-Turrets and vehicle weapons have HORRIBLE aim.
-and the list goes on for miles

This game was so highly praised that I can't believe how bad it is. It's mind boggling how terrible this game is. All I can say is thank you Bungie for seeing the THOUSANDS of flaws in this game and fixing them by the time you got to Halo 3.

What a waste of $10

Ps. The pistol has zoom! Were the Bungie developers drunk when they made this game?

Angry rant concluded


Epic Fail

All it needed was live then it would be so much better than Halo 2 and 3.

  • 06.08.2008 1:16 PM PDT

Posted by: IMOMXJ
Results 1 - 10 of about 33,000 for "pistol scopes". (0.19 seconds)I got 419000, lol.
Did you use quotes? I added them to try to make sure it was on topic. Either way, there are a lot of results.

[Edited on 06.08.2008 4:25 PM PDT]

  • 06.08.2008 4:24 PM PDT

Halo C.E. is one of the best games ever. I dont know what this guys talking about.

  • 06.08.2008 9:49 PM PDT
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Posted by: GeneralZenzo
You have no appreciation for culture.

And anyway, if you'd have started with Halo CE you'd almost absolutely think differently. It was the best of the best, it was a legend, it brought gamers together, but most of all; it brought in new people to FPS and games in general.


Not neccessarily true. I played them sequence and there are days I can't even find the appeal to CE.

And screw the culture defense. A game has to be fun before it can be classic.

  • 06.09.2008 3:27 PM PDT

Loose talk is noose talk.

Play on easy - with a friend who's IQ is above 90 helping you.

  • 06.09.2008 4:33 PM PDT

The game's over six years old, what can you expect? I can barely remember playing it because I only rented it a week but I remember it was awesome.

  • 06.09.2008 4:58 PM PDT