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Subject: Panel Discussion: TTL on Improving H3
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take off the duel weild for pistol and make it like the h1 guarantee more people come and play the game

  • 06.04.2008 11:58 AM PDT
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BR Spread: Like a lot of people said, this needs to be made tighter and less random to reward people who have the skill to use it effectively.

Bring back some old competitive symmetrical maps in a classic map pack(Beaver Creek, Midship, Sanctuary)

-New forge canvas-Bigger, completely square, symmetrical, and flat geometry/texture

-Spawn system

-Make new medium sized symmetrical maps such as the pit

team snipers playlist. No PISTOl. Humen and alien snips

Make the BR like the one in Halo 2

Make touch return like Halo 2

Fix the hitboxs

NAT problem I have my nat OPEn but halo 3 says its modernt.

Energy Sword: This was already nerfed by giving it a finite lifespan, why nerf it further by taking so long to pull it out? Any decent player can AR/beatdown or 4-shot some kid before he can take out his sword and lunge. It's no longer even a power weapon and only promotes camping in confined areas or around corners. There is no reason to balance this weapon to the point where it only kills just as good as the most of the rest of the Halo 3 arsenal. A power weapon should be one that kills that much better and easier than everything else.

the only thing i have a problem with is, playing the same maps. so what im proposing is that they change the veto system. instead of loading a map then vetoing. why not having a choice of three maps. the maps will coraspond to X, Y, and B. on the controller. and the maps with the most votes loads up and we play it. The other thing i would like to see is increasing the number of times the LEgendary maps show up in Team Slayer. thank you for making this thread. -Tony"

MAKE THE AIMING SMOOTH LIKE HALO 2. I CAN NEVER GET THE FEELING OF AIM LIKE HALO 2 IN HALO 3. ADD MIDSHIP, MAKE LOCKOUT 100% REMAKE. I hate blackout.

Ps I coped and pasted the ideas people had in their post cus I 100% agree


  • 06.04.2008 11:58 AM PDT

All I can think of that would make playing Halo 3 more enjoyable would be the following:

More maps. It gets boring after playing the same maps over and over again.

I don't know how Bungie determins who's internet connection runs the game, but it would be nice if bungie chooses the person with the best connection.

If possible, alter the elites so they are more equal to humans for SWAT.

Change the way you can boot players. I have been betrayed twice my the same person and I didn't get the option to boot, and when I betray someone for the first time in the game and he gets the boot option right away. It doesn't make sence.

It would also be nice if there was a compass indicator on our raydar so we could be more coordinated in gameplay.


  • 06.04.2008 12:03 PM PDT
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http://www.mlgpro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=138915

  • 06.04.2008 12:05 PM PDT

it would be awesome to actually use your multiplayer character, whether it be spartan or elite, in the campaign multiplayer. players are able to customize their character for use in multiplayer against other players online. so it would be kickass to use your customized character in a 4 player co-op campaign level. thanx

  • 06.04.2008 12:05 PM PDT

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I think you should Improve the vehicles/super weapon ratio in halo 3.
In halo 2 it was alot fun to have vehicles and actually manage to use them without dying.

As halo 3 came out, it's nearly impossible to use a warthog. For example "Valhalla"
Valhalla features 2 missile pods and a spartan laser in the middle.
it also has a power drain.

It's nearly impossible to use the warthog and it's a deathtrap.

I have also noticed that it's alot easier to destroy a vehicle with an AR or a BR in halo 3, as in halo 2 it was nearly impossible to destroy a vehicle without a rocket launcher.
I think this is good. (Current halo 3 weapon damage on vehicles)

You should really lower the amount of superweapons on halo 3
Last resort (aka. zanzibar) Is also a good example, although it's nice to have a spartan laser on the map, it has completely eliminated the use of vehicles on the map.
Also considering that it's quite difficult to shoot people from the warthog itself.
I think the map would be alot balanced with a rocket launcher instead of the spartan laser.
This would give easier infantry kills, but it would also be harder to destroy a warthog (since you cannot lock-on the vehicles).

In the Heroic map pack the map "stand off" has a perfect weaopon/vehicle balance.
If your team gets the spartan laser, it will be alot easier for your team to survive in the warthog.
But it wont make it impossible for the other team to destroy it.

as they will have a power drain, plasma pistol and a rocket launcher spawning in their base.

I think you should come up with more maps like this, it really works.

  • 06.04.2008 12:05 PM PDT

match making customs or being able to advertise custom games

can't get any good custom games anymore :(

  • 06.04.2008 12:06 PM PDT
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Definately a tighter BR spread

Touch return in CTF gametypes

Ranked Snipers

Another thing that I think is important is that when you guys feel a ranked or social gametype isn't popular, you take the gametype out completely. I don't think you should do this, because there are always going to be people who want to play that gametype, so I suggest the continuation of adding new gametypes but not removing the old ones.

I also wish you would take out the number of games played on the service record, all I've ever seen it do was provoke people to talk trash about how you play soo much more than them and they are still better than you.

[Edited on 06.04.2008 12:08 PM PDT]

  • 06.04.2008 12:06 PM PDT

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I like the idea of adding more equipment to objective gametypes. Not just equipment like Regenerators and Bubble Shields, those are used too much, but equipment like Radar Jammer, Flare, and Some Deployable Cover. I would also like to see the Banshee show up in more maps. And for custom games to be able to talk without pushing up when theres more than 5 players in the party.

  • 06.04.2008 12:07 PM PDT
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The most important thing I think you should fix is the Br Spread.
This will REALLY help to even out gameplay, If this is fixed people will have no reason to complain when they get out Br'ed.

  • 06.04.2008 12:07 PM PDT

A lime a day keeps teh scurvy at bay.

On the subject of armor perms: you've stated clearly that new options will likely never happen, but what about the arbiter's armor? that armor's friggin' cool, but second game it appears in and still no multiplayer iteration? Is there a reason?

I'd also like a darker color palette to choose from. No idea if that would be feasible or not, but you guys asked ^_^

One thing i ask that you guys never change, from this game to the next, is split-screen over system-link, split-screen over live, and split-screen over system-link over live. My library of multiplayer games is small because so few games allow this. Why should i purchase a tv and console for every member of the family to play 3v3 in CoD4? Isn't it enough that they have their own live accounts? why penalize them? So, without further griping, I laud thee overmuch on this. It's a major bonus that will definitely keep me on your servers.

  • 06.04.2008 12:08 PM PDT
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I love this thread idea.

1. The time between switching weapons and using it should be just like halo 2. The delay TOTALLY ruined the sword, the ammo was a good idea though.
2. Team Snipers playlist. It could be ranked, social or both.
3. More small symmetrical maps.
4. Default slayer should start with BR and AR. In other words NO AR START.
5.Fix melee system. That double beatdown is weird.

#1 is definatly the one I want most. It was so pro.

This one is probably a lost cause but... might as well through it out there. You should put in BXR, BXB, the button combos. Although I suppose they would be RB instead of X. Those didn't even seem like glitches they were just pro moves. They allowed them heck encouraged them in the MLG. I'm assuming you will ignore this one that's fine but PLEASE consider number #1 I know I am not the only one who wants that.


[Edited on 06.04.2008 12:15 PM PDT]

  • 06.04.2008 12:10 PM PDT

... but at least there's a reaction.

Posted by: FuzzyJAM
Adding some damage differential to jumping, running and standing attacks would be great, as would the ability to speed melees up by some form of melee combo.


Just wanted to follow up on Fuzzy here, and agree - the differences in standing, running, and jumping melees really added something to Halo 2. I don't know if that's beyond a patch upgrade. Otherwise, I think the current melee system is a fair if imperfect compromise, and is definitely an improvement over the health-based system at launch.

And, yes - we would love an arena map, although I suppose you know that, if we can guess by the impending release of Purple Reign. The game probably should have launched with one, but it's never too late.

  • 06.04.2008 12:10 PM PDT

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the br spray fixed, another change in the melee system maybe h2 style slightly toned down and a snipers playlist
MOST IMPORTANTLY, UNDER COMMUNITY ADD MLG 2V2

  • 06.04.2008 12:10 PM PDT

-Fix the BR make it like Halo 2
-Fix melees, make them like Halo 1, they are just insane amount of damage take no skill huge lunge etc
-Fix spawns
-Fix hitboxes
-SPECTATOR MODE!!!!
-FASTER WEAPON SWITCH TIME, its sad when in COD4 you switch weapons faster than in halo 3 making gameplay slow and less skillful
-Better maps, make them smaller just look at Halo1 and Halo1 Chillout,Midship etc

EDIT: Also you should add MLG 2v2 like poster above and an MLG 1v1!!!

[Edited on 06.04.2008 12:14 PM PDT]

  • 06.04.2008 12:13 PM PDT
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One thing I would like to see is more freedom in Forge.Maybe something like an increased Budget on the new maps,and other new Forge items.

  • 06.04.2008 12:13 PM PDT

When The Bomb Gets Planted could you add an announcer to say that it was planted, kind of like the flag being picked up or dropped. This is the main reason why MLG has yet to add bomb gametypes because someone can be completely oblivious to the bomb being planted. See link.
http://www.mlgpro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=174047. Oh and some more competitive based symetrical maps like pit or Construct for MLG

  • 06.04.2008 12:14 PM PDT

In case BTB gets removed at the end of june, you should put in a new playlist called 6v6. This was one of the best playlists from halo 2. Also for the playlist you should not just play BTB maps ie valhalla and sandtrap, but you should put in some maps like high ground one flag and last resort objectives.

I for one am starting to see the reason that BTB was never as popular as it was in halo 2. Think about how many Asymetrical maps we had. Headlong, Terminal, Relic , Zanzibar (not BTB maps but) lock out, ascension, gemini, turf. These are the reasons we play. Symetrical maps (high level especially) seem to end in 20 minute draws. We don't like to draw we like to have a decided winner.

One more thing I know bungie's not stupid but did you guys think about how rich you could be if all you did was just remake all the halo 2 maps and sell it to us for 10 bucks a map pack. We all miss these maps and this way you can stop listening to us ask for them all the time.
Halo 3 Terminal and Headlong would completely change BTB forever

  • 06.04.2008 12:15 PM PDT

i think we knead a foundry like level BUT with no roof limit
unlimited forge objects
and no budget
i just don't like the restrictions brought on by them

  • 06.04.2008 12:16 PM PDT

I'm sick of having to played forged maps for MLG.
Please come out with 1-2 more maps for competitive play.
BR spread would be great if fixed also.

  • 06.04.2008 12:16 PM PDT
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-A BR spread similar to that of halo 2's. Low spread + low auto aim and low magnetism of halo 3 would be amazing. It would reward the player with the better aim rather than who got the luckier spread.
-Also smaller symetrical arena maps such as midship and warlock. Sanctuary was awesome too.
-better hit detection over live. Can't tell you how many times my snipe has gone through someone's head, blood came out, and they ran right along.
-A perfect square/rectangular forge pallet with no random textures (cranes and random crap on the floor) and aesthetically pleasing backrounds and forge objects.
-BR spread. I know i posted it already but from what I can gather from this topic, people want it fixed.
-Maybe all playlists speed bumped up to 110%, the game feels really slow at times.

  • 06.04.2008 12:16 PM PDT
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Some things that I would greatly appreciate are:

The spawn system, I would like to see it like how it was in halo 2.

The BR spread so it feels very connected and smooth.

I would like to see the ability to flag throw back again.

I would love to be able to launch sticks more effectively rather than them blowing up immediately after the launch.

More competitive maps, possible remakes if they can be done correctly.

Theater fastforward and first person on any character.

Ability to watch film clips with a group of friends.

Spectator mode would be very fun so you can be able to watch 1v1's between two friends.

Preset damage for melee.

Fix the custom power up so it isn't wasted when you pick it up with no shields.

Thanks Bungie.



  • 06.04.2008 12:16 PM PDT

a new gametype, and not just a variation to one like grifball (although grifball would be a nice addition) more maps and gametypes from the community.
new color pallet (no armor perms is fine)

[Edited on 06.04.2008 12:23 PM PDT]

  • 06.04.2008 12:17 PM PDT
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better maps for mlg tournaments and playlist

  • 06.04.2008 12:18 PM PDT

Team Snipers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! c'mon bungie everyone loves team snipers.. half of these posts are about wanting a snipers playlist... ...no aggravating pistols in the playlist either please.........3 on 3 would be great.......... team swat is ok, grifball is terrible,, everyone wants team snipers..........Great Job on Halo 3 so far btw =)

  • 06.04.2008 12:19 PM PDT