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Subject: Panel Discussion: TTL on Improving H3
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I think team snipers should have its own playlist and i think there sould be a gametype of Team Triples or create some new ones because the bomb and flag are starting to get boring, and instead of the spartan and elite we should be able to choose the Brute to play with on live, and instead of everyone asking for recon why dont someone just make new armor and i think there should be some new weapons to!!!

Now that would be different!

  • 06.06.2008 9:55 AM PDT
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All weapons have been nerfed and far to many weapons are now in the game.

The only weapons that improved from h2 to h3 is the starting weapon the AR, the AR I must say is the only weapon in the game that is too powerful. The AR can kill you with 5 bullets and melee thats just ridiculous, the AR can also due to the horrible net play beat BR's at 100% damage at mid range which is a joke.

The Br needs to shoot faster and reload faster, this gun should be an amazing all around well balanced gun and honestly its horrible. You have to aim for the chest to get head shots because of how bad the spread is, the BR also does not hold enough ammo and takes far to long to reload. The pistol in Halo 1 could 3 shot someone in 1.7 seconds, it takes 3.7 seconds to 4 shot someone in h3, on top of that the Pistol held way more ammo, was far more accurate and could reload quicker. Due to how long it takes to 4 shot people, everyone can just run away and the game becomes a stale mate.

The sniper has way to much inconsistency when zoomed in, you can hit people see blood come out of them from both their point of view and your own yet they take no damage. The sniper also no scopes far to easy anyone who plays on a slow sensitivity does not even need to zoom in because its incredibly easy to no scope

The players are way to slow in side to side motions, the strafe has been replaced by bumper jumper and skill has been removed. Due to how slow the lateral movement is for the player its very hard to out BR people.

We have the option to hold 4 grenades 1 of those grenade types is not even playable in anything except forge so why are they there? Also why did you change the amount of grenades you can hold from 4 of each type to 2? If if aint broke dont fix it so please give us back our 4 grenades of frag and plasma

Speed up the animation, it takes far to long to switch weapons, it takes far to long to come back from throwing grenades, it takes far to long to reload weapons.

Fix the lunge distances, make them consistent for all weapons. I dont understand why their is even a lunge in halo 3 hell halo 1 didnt need it. On top of that the distance you are allowed to lunge is based off the weapons you are carrying, the Mauler can lunge further then any other weapon in the game. That is so stupid make it consistent.

Fix the spawns the spawn system has been explained a million times and it still makes no sense. Safe zones as you guys put it are more like anti safe zones because the only thing you did was spawn you behind the person who killed you which actually rewards you for dying instead of making you improve on staying alive. In h2 you could contest spawns and it should be that way in H3. If you want H3 to go down as a one of the best games of all time or even a great or good game for that matter you need to completely rewrite the spawn system

And the last thing thats on my mind right now but not least is GIVE US SOME GOOD MAPS PLEASE!!!.

Blackout is a failure, the pit is a failure (it has a huge wall down the middle) Construct is a failure (it funnels you up lifts and into a death trap) Isolation is a failure (its huge with a bottom part of the map that is unneeded) Narrows is a failure (no lanes to flank its a straight forward path where the kid with the best connection will win every time. The only way to move around that map is charge in a straight line or go over the stupid man cannon) Guardia fails (it is nothing but narrows hall ways and places to hide.) Foundry a joke, rats nest a joke, all the maps are pathetic and whoever made them should really be looking for a new job right now.

  • 06.06.2008 9:57 AM PDT

When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.

i have a few.
1. redo campaign( felt like i was missing a few levels)
2. add a watch video for all videos on community files( unless it costs a lot and uses a heck of a lotta storage)

3. finding good videos to give out recon. (some of mine i think are very good and i feel like no one will ever spot one of my videos
4. add more to forge( left out guns, vehhicles, ect...)
5. try to give recon to those that do something awesome and by that i mean AWESOME
6.please get rid of isolation from big team.
7. (if you already are then nvm) please create new armor permutations to give out like recon, only make it easier to get if that doesnt take too much man power.
that's about it ,but please do not take these suggestions as a mad rant. thanks for listening.
P.S. i think team snipers as a social slayer playlist would be awesome, same with zombies. and ctf, koth, assault, ect should all be playlists in themselves. (cause sometimes i get mad when CTF on valhalla glitches to territories on santrap covies and quit.)

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  • 06.06.2008 10:02 AM PDT
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Posted by: rabidsnowball
i would like bungie to forget this thread completely, nothing constructive is going to come from it

this is how to improve your mess of a game bungie (without trying to sound to offensive)

go and have a chat with sundance giovanni, and do EXACTLY what he tells you to do with the game, with no exceptions

this is the only way to do it. so do it now.

Sundance DiGiovanni you should actually know his name before you recommend him to do something

  • 06.06.2008 10:13 AM PDT

It would be cool if they put peilcans in big team so you could transport your team around the map instead of them having to walk. But the peilcan couldn't shoot or anything like that.

And it would be nice to have a ranked team snipers gametype.

  • 06.06.2008 10:17 AM PDT
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More BIG vehicles, and I mean Elephants, not Scorpions. A Pelican might be a bit much because of the whole aerial component, but a new type of vehicle-base would mean new, ridiculously awesome gamemodes (reads as 'Ripoffs of Pirate Ships'). Scarabs, plox?

I'm a huge fan of the whole idea to have some kind of way to rotate Forge objects 45/90/x degrees. All my maps are crooked. D:

Why is the max fuse time for Assault thirty seconds? If it was possible to make a 60/120/180 second fuse time, it'd open up a whole new section of gamemodes, and if played on custom maps (say, for instance, the bomb is right next to the plant point and the 'defense' and 'offense' teams actually do just the opposite), it could open up a whole new type of Assault map, and one that wouldn't get vetoed out every time it comes up on MM. And I'm totally not saying that because I'm trying to make a map like that - oooohhh, no.

Since it's on DoubleXPWeekend so much, why not just make Grifball a Social playlist?

  • 06.06.2008 10:38 AM PDT
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The first two posts of this page

Special note to all the BR points made. Sniper playlist... But BR is a must fix.

Posted by: da acklete

Etc, etc, etc. (Killin isn't going to flood this page by quoting it all.)


I agree with everything said by this player with a few exceptions. No scoping is a lot easier, but no scoping where most people would normally be forced to 5x (aka across the map) is not possible. So the no scope system is fine for now.

I don't think more grenade capacity should be added for one reason: Halo 3 is becoming a 'nade spam game. A lot of kills are off of the random grenades, so there needs to be some balance...

BR and strafing mentions I agree 200%. I think Guardian is a great map though, due to the tactical angles and jumps you do on it, along with the skillful weapons. I think it just needs more BRs and less ARs.

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  • 06.06.2008 11:59 AM PDT

Losing is Nature's way of saying that you suck!

Make a new update changing all of the default maps in custom games to the ones in matcmaking, cuz it's kind of irritating to play on HC Snowbound on matchmaking, but then have to waste 1/100 precious slots just to simulate the matchmaking maps with minor differences such as no power drain, and no BR's.

Also, bring back the original equipment or weapons on the maps then if the above mentioned isn't possible, cuz, like I said earlier, it's really bugging me to have to waste like 10 precious slots out of 100 on my hard drive just to get the same maps I always play on matchmaking.

  • 06.06.2008 2:01 PM PDT

Battle rifle without scope.

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oh could we have beam rifles on snipers instead of magnums

  • 06.06.2008 4:49 PM PDT
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Personally, I believe they should fix the host problem.

So many times people get host and it is not the greatest. The host will be given to someone who has a yellow/low green connection that lags a lot.

Oh, I would also like more competitive maps to come out.

That is one of the only things I can think of as of now.

  • 06.06.2008 5:04 PM PDT

Remake Blood Gulch/Coagulation and have a big team playlist dedicated to Multi Flag CTF on just that map.

BR Spread should have been fixed ages ago.

AR needs a smaller reticule and less powerful at distance

A couple of forge maps the size of Sanctuary, Valhalla and The Pit but all outdoors.

Add acheivements much like gears did. For the users of the elite player model they need more armour. I dont use it but the amount of elites i run into in MM is quite freakish.

Hitboxes on elites are even worse than Halo 2

Touch return in flag

increase the possible objective times in oddball and KOTH.

Please change the colou of indicators to something that doesnt get me confused with service tags.

Halo 2 style bomb arming

Hitting somebody on top of the head from the front is not an assasination

Have the option to remove player indicators from above players heads on your team

  • 06.06.2008 5:23 PM PDT
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There needs to be a permanent infection and sniper playliists

Pelicans online

weather affects in forge and day and night

explosions wen the bomb explodes!!!

fix br spread

troop hogs and bigger maps and aa wraiths

matchaking custom games

so far it has been a great game and these are jst sum tips Thanks!

  • 06.06.2008 6:44 PM PDT

you laugh and i cry my controller disconnected again and i dont know why!

NO GHOSTS IN TEAM SLAYER PLEASE. PEOPLE USE THEM AND BECOME REALLY ANOYING FOR ALL PLAYERS!

  • 06.06.2008 6:56 PM PDT

Tha saga begins........begin war I draw first blood be tha first to set it off......

I would like to see hardcore capture the flag gametypes with flag must be home to score turned on and longer time perhaps. Its just that me and my friends used to play Halo Combat Evolved capture the flag matches that would last hours on end via system link and we still bring up those old war stories and thats how we would play 3 flags to win flag must be home to score on maps like sidewinder, blood gulch, and boarding action. Truly epic battles where fought and won. It made it that much more of an acheivement to score it really corraled people into roles on their team you wouldnt have as many rambo players like you do now that take the hornet an get it blastedout of the air the first 10 seconds of the game. Makes you play smart, and makes for truly memorable battles.

  • 06.06.2008 7:10 PM PDT

Hey I haven't seen anyone mention this yet but what about the ability to post your custom games right up on matchmaking. In halo 1 (for the computer) every game that was being hosted was up for people to join. It would really be fun if you could just go into matchmaking, click on custom games, then scroll through all the fun and random game types people are hosting. I am not stupid and know there would be A TON of games being posted up and it could be hard to manage all of those games being post every minute, but if it were possible to get custom games up there it would make my day (and probably more people's too!).

The reason I thought this would be such a good improvement was due to the fact that only 6-7 friends on my buddy list are playing halo 3 at one time, then only 3-4 will actually join my custom game, then when we play a map I've made that is meant for 14-16 players it isn't really that fun. When I do get 16 players into my party we end up having ALOT of fun playing people's maps and game modes that they have created and we never really care who joins as long as they play. So the one thing I would add is the ability to post custom games on matchmaking.

(Bungie if this isn't possible could you find a way to do something like this? Maybe only a certain amount of custom games can become playable at one time?)

If anyone has questions about this I have more ideas for how it should be run.

  • 06.06.2008 7:48 PM PDT

"Dear humanity, we regret being alien bastards, we regret coming to Earth, and we most definitely regret the Corps just blew up our raggedy-ass fleet!"

Maybe just a play list devoted to Slayer and CTF only, or just Slayer.... Isn't it odd that Team Slayer play list has a bunch of none Slayer game types in it, and the none Slayer game types also get their own play list?

I mean a play list that just has straight Slayer, Covies, or Slayer BR.

Also, the re-inclusion of BTS Sandtrap in Social BTB, that's my vary favorite map and game type to play on, but I never get it anymore it's always covies, or VIP. I want choppers dagnabit!

(Oh, and one thing, which I know isn't possible; is more medals! Specific sprees for some of the other rare weapons, like Hammers, Lasers, and perhaps Grenades/Sticks.)

  • 06.06.2008 7:49 PM PDT
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A few things could be done to increase players' enjoyment of Halo 3

1--- Unless you are playing a "hardcore" playlist do not have HC Snowbound in the availible maps.
2---Add objects such as a door and switch type thing (such as the doors on Standoff) and have a new blog article to where the community has the opprotunity to suggesst new forge objects for an update to foundry. X,Y,Z axis options to forge objects.
3--- I know you guys a Bungie said there will be no new maps for a long while but a more forge friendly map ( more forge friendly than foundry!) Just think of what your community could make!!!
4---BUNGIE NEEDS TO LISTEN! if you bungie listened ( not saying you don't) AND acted on it by if the community suggests tings have a front page poll of what you have collected and let the community vote on what is to be added in the next DLC of update to make halo that much more better.

  • 06.06.2008 8:09 PM PDT

90% of teens today would die if Myspace was completely destroyed. If you are one of the 10% that would be laughing, copy and paste this to your signature.

H3 needs bigger multiplayer maps w/ bigger vehicles (pelican)

  • 06.06.2008 8:16 PM PDT
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In matchmaking, my biggest annoyance is the younger audience. I'm not sure if there is anything to be done about it, but I would enjoy playing halo with people who don't scream the latest fergie song in my eardrum. I realize I can mute players, but I also know there is an importance to mics: talking strategy.
It's a shame that you have to join in with your own party of four so you can play a tolerable game. I don't like playing in a full party primarily because I get paired up with all generals and a booster ALL the time.

Also, about a week ago in doubles I was playing with a random teammate. The moment the game started he killed himself and quit. That's always fun!

I enjoy RBTB, you guys did a good job of pumping life back into it. I like the larger number teams, but I absolutely can't stand not ever playing slayer! There should be a playlist that is like Team Slayer, but with larger teams. Ranked Big Team Slayer, if you will. BR starts, no vehicles.

As far as maps go:
I would like to see more symmetrical medium/small sized maps such as sanctuary or warlock.

OK /rant

  • 06.06.2008 9:24 PM PDT

Well they say the sky's the limit
And to me that's really true
But my friend you have seen nothin
Just wait til I get through...

You guys SERIOUSLY need to consider a " detachable turret ( yes/no ) " option in customs. It would make Tower of Power A LOT easier! And also include all weapons available as a starting weapon, seriously it's our custom games and we should be able to do what we want!

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  • 06.06.2008 9:52 PM PDT
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I think that in Head to Head, there should be either, no makers, or markers on both players heads all the time. Having a maker on just the leader or on both when the game is tied, just keeps the score tied for the rest of the game. It is really frustrating working hard to get a lead on the other person only to be walking into nades and being sniped as soon as you walk around corners until they catch up. I do understand the point of having a maker on the leaders head (no camping), but I honesty think that having a maker on both player's heads will fix that problem.

Also, please, oh please add Team Snipers. I played that more than I played any other playlist in Halo 2 and I had honestly expected it to be included in the playlists right when Halo 3 came out.

Please consider what I said about Head to Head.

  • 06.06.2008 10:04 PM PDT
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Ok this is great. Thanks for making it.

-One thing that I can not stand is the system that is used to decide MVP is busted. It in no way takes into consideration kill/death ratio.
-If a game is starting up and two people quit or are disconnected before it actually loads the game should move players around to make it even in numbers.
-A little work could be done on the system that divides the teams up. Often all high ranked people are on one and low on another.
-Location Marker removal in Head to head.
-Beta adjustments that went too far. Mine is too weak and armor for VIP is as well.
-Why all the lag? No other xbox live game I play has the problem nearly as much as Halo 3, including COD 4, and GTA 4. And that's using prefered connection.

  • 06.07.2008 12:28 AM PDT

-bring back ascension and midship
-get rid of shwatguns in the swat playlist
-put fuel rod cannon in multiplayer
-mvp as a medal would be nice
-strengthen the pistol and the trip mine
-BRING BACK GRIFBALL!

  • 06.07.2008 12:42 AM PDT
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Bungie needs to take a look at the rankings system. I know that everybody has problems with it, but I'm only going to discuss one thing. I hope Bungie takes a look at this.

Okay. My problem is that people on their first account who are high levels (like high 40s or 50) in one playlist can play in a playlist they havent' played in before and play with people who have just started.

So say Person A is a general. Level 50 in Team Objective. And a 1 in Lone Wolves, for instance. Person B has a high skill level of 1, but is a Private. See the problem?

Bungie needs to make it so that the people you are matched with is searched by their HIGHEST SKILL. Not the skill level in that particular playlist.

Take a look Bungie!

Thx

  • 06.07.2008 12:45 AM PDT
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it would be cool if their were two diffrent rank for the spartian and the alien so people dont have to make a new account. say that you are a 45 with your spartan and your a 23 with your alien you know.

  • 06.07.2008 1:03 AM PDT