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Subject: Panel Discussion: TTL on Improving H3

Trip mines. What kind of mine flashes a bright light and beeps!?What kind of Spartan soldier wears pink armor? You have to accept that Halo 3 is a different kind of game and is more colorful than those more modern army games. That's why Halo 3 is unique and awesome.

One more improvement idea from me though. I'd like a setting to make it so you cannot zoom in. I like that in some sniper games. Not for matchmaking, though.

  • 06.22.2008 3:44 PM PDT
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Posted by: numbs2
Having it so you can make so you don't start with any weapons or choosing which weapons a each teams start out with. Also lowering weapons on live. larger team size also skipping forward on clips. ability to change the weather and time on a map also night vision. ability to change the terrain bigger maps. ability to join a matchmaking game if someone quits so 1 person is stuck fighting a entire team. Also non playable characters vs the people online in matchmaking and environment and choose the difficulties settings in matchmaking. changing the size of walls and doors also making easier to keep objects from falling and easier to line it up straight. Also an all air combat fight.


well i agree with the beggining of what this guy said in that you should be able to set up custom games so that different teams have different weapons like one team be covenant and have a plasma rifle and carbine while the other team is spartans and they have an AR and BR. Stuff like that would be good to control because i know i have a lot of games that can use that.

  • 06.23.2008 12:21 PM PDT
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Posted by: metalrebel501
Forge improvements.

*Return Vehicles- Bring back the Spectre (Prowler sucks), and include the Shadow (the Covanant Elephant).

*Make a patch for the newer stuff to work on the older maps. Gloomy Sandtrap anyone.

*Make objects be able to stay in the air. Sometimes making bases in the air is stressful.

*Finally, include some Flood spawns. Good lord this would be perfect as a third party enemy in Custom games and Infection would make better sense.




I agree with every thing this guy pointed out. Especially the part about bringing back the spectre and a shadow would be pretty sweet if it was possible.

  • 06.23.2008 12:26 PM PDT
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I would like to see...

More of an epic/Halo feel on the new maps, more vehicle-based maps like that snowy one from Halo PC and Waterworks from Halo2. Another map based on Alpha Halo or inside a covenant facility/ship would be nice to see.

I would like to see some map layouts that encourage more teamwork and strategic thinking though. Like giving the attackers a regenerator, and giving them a chance to deploy it in a risky place where it could benefit either team. I don't know if that's a good example, but your map designers would probably know what to do anyways.

Just make Halo 3 more like Halo 1, but keep the good things Halo 3 has like balance. Some new map objects in Forge that let us change the map plays would be nice, like the light doors in Avalanche. I don't really know what to specifically say, but generally, stuff that unskilled Forgers can use to make a map cool, but skilled Forgers can use to make a map that's unique and plays great.

So BASICALLY what I want is things that encourage players to think outside of the box. I guess. And more Halo 1 elements. That's about it.

[Edited on 06.24.2008 5:46 PM PDT]

  • 06.24.2008 5:14 PM PDT
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lukems srry i didn't know how to write my own thing so i just clicked reply.. ok you seriously need to start thinking of better maps, isolation, snowbound, ghost town, Epitaph, Rat's Nest and even Blackout were all garbage! it was a good idea to remake lockout cause it WAS my favourite map but you totally wrecked it... if you gonna make a map from halo 2.. LEAVE IT THE WAY IT WAYS JUST MAKE THE GRAPHICS LOOK BETTER!!!.. which brings me to my other point. Ascension (my fav.), ivory tower, headlong, coagulation, beaver creek, sanctuary and foundation were the greastest maps i have ever played on.. so bungie please put these maps on halo 3 (i gaurentee everyone will love them, but don't change anything make them exactly the same just with better graphics) and i can tell you why they be good.. ascension- excellent for lone wolves/ rumble pit, zombies, SWAT, snipers probably the best map for all of those.. and for a double EXP weekend have Tower Of Power on that map, do you know how many people that will bring!.. now ivory tower- awesome for flag, SWAT, swords and good old Team Slayer and juggernaut Headlong 2nd best map for BTB, (which will bring people back to ranked BTB) flag, bomb, team snipers. COAGULATION, omg the best map ever made- amazing for gulch wars (straight BTB) warth hog wars, flag, bomb and that map would be a big hit with forge. beaver creek- awesome for bomb, flag and SWAT(my fav. for SWAT). sanctuary- AGAIN flag, bomb and SWAT, also it has awesome hiding spots behind the rocks and boulders which gives it a real feeling. Foundation- come on BEST map for zombies and juggernaut. ATTENTION BUNGIE: IF YOU PUT THESE MAPS ON AND LEAVE THEM THE WAY THEY ARE I SWEAR ON MY ACCOUNT YOU WILL SEE NUMBERS LIKE NEVER BEFORE. okay thats enough about maps now onto games... i've heard people say this many times and i have even wished for it... [b]Big Team SWAT[b] for the EXP weekend and if it gets really popular make it a playlist. also take away Shwatguns or w.e its called, people have quit SWAT because of it.. seriously fire the guy who came up with that and bring back the normal SWAT (not SWAT ball either). well thats all i have for now. BUNGIE if you do end up reading this (hopefully you do) you can e-mail me at willy_wm@hotmail.com or anyone else that would like to talk about this and wants help on bringing back the halo feeling..

love always BANTA KANE

  • 06.25.2008 7:21 AM PDT

Please turn off friendly fire in Campaign with the next patch. I'm tired of being killed by Elite's with plasma grenades, or Marines with frags. Just a thought.

  • 06.25.2008 5:07 PM PDT
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Changes I would like to see added to halo 3 are:

-creation of new gametypes and/or matchmaking playlists, such as:
1. the mixing of capture the flag and infection
2. a game where everyone is a certain color team and all must kill the other teams and once they are killed they must join the team that killed them and the game doesn't end until all players are a certain color (basically a mixture of multi-team and infection to paint a more clear picture)
3. a matchmaking playlist of capture the flag with 3 opposing teams
4. a unique matchmaking playlist for land grab, and also one for the original territories version of the game, if not at the very least land grab should be played more often in the objective gametypes.
5. the creation of a matchmaking playlist that includes infection, grifball, and all other gametypes possible, even if only in the social playlists.


-various changes to weapons, equipment and or tweaks to matchmaking games in general, such as:
1. increasing the power of the assault rifle, even if ever so slightly.
2. increasing the power of the trip mine to be deadly, and possibly making it less noticeable in anyway possible.
3. slightly increasing the range of the spike grenade, not necessarily the power.
4. adding flash grenades, radar jammers, and all other equipment into matchmaking games to make the game more lively.
5. slightly increasing the power of the SMG when duel wielded.
6. being able to hold onto both weapons that are duel wielded even when switching to another weapon.
7. making the multi-team playlist to be able to have more players.
8. duel needlers available, but in custom games only.

more selection in the armor of the master chief, such as:
1.more colors to choose from, such as the color that each player turns whenever turned into a zombie in matchmaking. even if they must be bought.
2.more armor to choose from, even if it must be bought.

miscellanious requests, such as:
1. nonstop creation of new maps, every so often.
2. spectator mode put to use more, so that players can watch their friends playing even if not in the game at all.
3. (somewhat more unrealistic) the introduction of player controlled music to the online play, sort of like an online radio, where there will be options either on the games menu or even more readily at hand to mute the music if it is viewed as offensive to any player, or even vote to change the song by all players in the game. or at least the introduction of an online radio by microsoft itself into all online play for all games, whether or not used to it's full capabilities and listened to by all players of a single game at a time, which I admit does lead to alot of questions as to how it should be handled.
4. ***introduction of sound effects to be able to be used by players, such as: robot, deep voice, elf, alien, etc.
5. and possibly the most thoughtful request out of all this entire list, beside the requests for the introduction of the gametype of capture the flag with 3 opposing teams and the request for the gametype that mixed infection with multi-team, using the 3 other buttons on the directional pad for some sort of team communication, such as: the duty you have assigned yourself (possibly like: offense, defense, both, etc.); a "distress" signal; and/or if one person is assigned to "lead" the team as far as commands go, he could control a certain button of the directional pad telling the team to hold position, attack, retreat, protect flag, etc. (of course these are very much still drawing board ideas but nevertheless important.)

and on a way more unrealistic level, the addition of the brute as playable online character.

Thank You.
CourageousAngel

  • 06.26.2008 2:58 PM PDT

Oh ur Face , but wait maybe a host lag head shot ouch !!

More equipment!! ie Flare and other that were taking out of MM. Would be neet in BTB matches.
More maps in BTB ie High ground, and other hell I remember BTB game in H2 on black out

  • 06.27.2008 9:28 PM PDT

Just 3 things

- Snipers/Shotty Snipers Playlist
Let those who want to play with snipers go to their own little "Happy Place"
- Remakes of Midship and Foundation
Those maps were great for slayer and objective games.
[Imagine the new capabilities of these maps with forge and infection :)]
- More sensible spawning in matchmaking.
Spawn killing will always happen because that's what people do, just deal wth it.
But seriously, if the opposing team came and killed you all at your spawns, why not
spawn the people on the other side of the map instead of trying to spawn them on the
same side and hope they can "survive"??? Biggest problems I've noticed with this:
Narrows and The Pit.

Help with this stuff and I'll be a happy Spartan :)

  • 06.30.2008 11:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: Banta Kane
lukems srry i didn't know how to write my own thing so i just clicked reply.. ok you seriously need to start thinking of better maps, isolation, snowbound, ghost town, Epitaph, Rat's Nest and even Blackout were all garbage! it was a good idea to remake lockout cause it WAS my favourite map but you totally wrecked it... if you gonna make a map from halo 2.. LEAVE IT THE WAY IT WAYS JUST MAKE THE GRAPHICS LOOK BETTER!!!.. which brings me to my other point. Ascension (my fav.), ivory tower, headlong, coagulation, beaver creek, sanctuary and foundation were the greastest maps i have ever played on.. so bungie please put these maps on halo 3 (i gaurentee everyone will love them, but don't change anything make them exactly the same just with better graphics) and i can tell you why they be good.. ascension- excellent for lone wolves/ rumble pit, zombies, SWAT, snipers probably the best map for all of those.. and for a double EXP weekend have Tower Of Power on that map, do you know how many people that will bring!.. now ivory tower- awesome for flag, SWAT, swords and good old Team Slayer and juggernaut Headlong 2nd best map for BTB, (which will bring people back to ranked BTB) flag, bomb, team snipers. COAGULATION, omg the best map ever made- amazing for gulch wars (straight BTB) warth hog wars, flag, bomb and that map would be a big hit with forge. beaver creek- awesome for bomb, flag and SWAT(my fav. for SWAT). sanctuary- AGAIN flag, bomb and SWAT, also it has awesome hiding spots behind the rocks and boulders which gives it a real feeling. Foundation- come on BEST map for zombies and juggernaut. ATTENTION BUNGIE: IF YOU PUT THESE MAPS ON AND LEAVE THEM THE WAY THEY ARE I SWEAR ON MY ACCOUNT YOU WILL SEE NUMBERS LIKE NEVER BEFORE. okay thats enough about maps now onto games... i've heard people say this many times and i have even wished for it... [b]Big Team SWAT[b] for the EXP weekend and if it gets really popular make it a playlist. also take away Shwatguns or w.e its called, people have quit SWAT because of it.. seriously fire the guy who came up with that and bring back the normal SWAT (not SWAT ball either). well thats all i have for now. BUNGIE if you do end up reading this (hopefully you do) you can e-mail me at willy_wm@hotmail.com or anyone else that would like to talk about this and wants help on bringing back the halo feeling..

love always BANTA KANE


Amen to that

  • 07.03.2008 5:09 PM PDT

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A hybrid game with p2p and dedicated servers. Customs would be p2p of course while matchmaking would be ded unless the server fouls up and the game switches over to a peer host.


-thanks for reading this Luke



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  • 07.10.2008 6:38 PM PDT

Think and Execute

What I recommend for improving Halo 3 would be making the gameplay more like Halo 1. I mean you could actually RUN, not try to run and take too long to even get anywhere on foot. Also, the Melee Lunge is simply put crap and inconsistent. Back in the glory days no one cared whether or not they were in range to lunge, it feels more satisfying to KNOW you had the skills to get in someone's face and whack them, not "Oh, I was 5 feet away and I flew to whack someone, so AWSOME" (Sarcasm). I also feel like you need to get rid of the so-called TrueSkill system, it's just an elitist system with no purpose. I mean, a REWARDING system rewards the player for trying and recieve something for playing and sticking with the game to the end. True Skill is a crappy system that needs to be destroyed and replaced with one that gives something to the player for actually playing. I have no weapon specific problems, since they all work, but, placements and USING all the stuff that's not Heavy and available needs desperate work. If you want an example of how variety in weapons and equipment works out, check out my file share maps. Also, I have an experimental theory that Halo 3 will play at a much more frantic pace, be balanced, and fun by having players

- Shields recharge at 200% speed,
- 125% running speed,
- 110% damage modifier.
- Then have everyone spawn with an Assault Rifle and Magnum

This could work on ANY gametype. Try it for yourself and see how much more fun the game is. if everything at your disposal was actually very effective in a battle.

  • 07.12.2008 9:50 AM PDT

Posted by: Ryukage
What? Play a game? FOR FUN???
This concept of fun confuses and infuriates me!

A lot less BR starts, in Head to Head LESS BR gametypes(PLEASE, for the love of god, less BR), and that's actually all I really don't like, otherwise no complaints.




Just thought about something absolutely awesome.

FIESTA IN SOCIAL PLAYLIST. You guys gotta do this for the greater good of man!

  • 07.12.2008 8:25 PM PDT
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sorry dude i dont know how to make my own message so i just clucked yours...


you guys at bungie should remake headlong! that was my favorite level from halo 2 and i would love a halo 3 remake with generally the same environment cuz i (no offense) did not like the way valhalla was, but i LOVE avalanche. and cold storage was great cuz it felt the same. also, there should be a hang em high remake and a boarding action remake if you were ever to make another map pack.

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Posted by: Banta Kane
ok you seriously need to start thinking of better maps, isolation, snowbound, ghost town, Epitaph, Rat's Nest and even Blackout were all garbage! it was a good idea to remake lockout cause it WAS my favourite map but you totally wrecked it... if you gonna make a map from halo 2.. LEAVE IT THE WAY IT WAYS JUST MAKE THE GRAPHICS LOOK BETTER!!!.. [/b]


I agree. the reason I dont think poeple liked the halo 3 levels as much as halo 1 and 2 is because they liked the environment better in halo 1 and 2. bungie should try to go back to the older themes that they used in halo 2 like the whole city theme. thats one of the reasons me and my friends liked headlong so much. in my opinion bungie should either make remakes or new levels in the older places like New Mombasa before it was destroyed.

[Edited on 07.17.2008 6:15 PM PDT]

  • 07.16.2008 11:54 AM PDT
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BRING BLOOD GULCH/COAGULATION BACK PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'M SORRY BUT VALHALLA IS NO SUBSTITUTE!!

  • 07.16.2008 1:42 PM PDT

It would be cool to see more special limited-time playlists.
Not necessarily DXP.
But a few weeklong-ranked playlists here and there.
I think that they're fun, and they usually get a lot of players in one place.

I think that the playlist weight on 1-Flag CTF should be increased
Not by too much.
Maybe from 15% to 17.5% or something.
Just don't take away from the bomb variants.
(I'm not talking about gravity)

Increase matches with preferred players (if possible)
I think that if I was paired with the players whom I prefer more often, that my Halo 3 experience would be at least 2x better than it currently is.
The community complains about players who are annoying and disruptive, and I think that if more weight was put on the "prefer player" option, than fewer of these complaints would be seen.

Make vehicle use more necessary
I don't know how you would do this.
Maybe add more vehicles to maps.
Maybe add/decrease heavy weapon spawns.
Maybe implement more bomb variants.
I don't know!
But I love using vehicles with my teammates, but I never really need to.

[Edited on 07.17.2008 1:56 PM PDT]

  • 07.16.2008 10:58 PM PDT
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Make it easier to earn experience points it's taken me about 3 months just to rank up also some of my other have the same issues with earning XP

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developing a hopper for only team snipers and having shotty snipers less frequent in team slayer would be nice.

adding wind, hail, rain, or lightning to a new map would be a nice touch to the feel of the environment.

put the banhammer to people who post forums saying "halo 3 sucks" would make my day brighter.

remake desolation!!!

add SWAT as a game varient in the rumble pit hopper.

  • 07.26.2008 10:48 PM PDT

The Don Was h3re

I think that the assault rifle should be down graded because its to powerful for a start weapon, also they should put the troop warthog in if possible on a new map, and we need a team snipers playlist or an infection playlist not just for a weekend but for ever.

  • 07.29.2008 12:54 PM PDT
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READ FIRST PLEASE! Please stop sending me Group invitations, it's not that I don't appreciate it it's just not going to work out for me considering the variables, Time zone differences, Mentality, motivation etc, Thank you for your consideration, Rtma Eros Paragon out.

WTF? apparently when dual wielding your weapons are Reduced in Damage . . . . . well no wonder not many people actually Dual Wield & this sucks it's also unrealistic, it deters Dual Wielding after all almost all dual weapons are closely optimized for close quarters, they shouldn't reduce the damage i mean you to dual wield to double the firepower right? (not to reduce it) and combine different weaponry, it should be encouraged so Equalize the Damage.

[Edited on 08.06.2008 10:20 AM PDT]

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Halo 3 is a terrific game, but the people who play it aren't. I can't tell you how many times i wish i could beat the snot out of people who only use shotguns, rockets, maulers, and gravity hammers (and usually camp with them). You need to stop this abuse, or not make these weapons as powerful (especially in team doubles). Some people just can't be a sensible human being and not pick up the rockets even though they're winning by 15 points. I just hope the people who made this game arent panzis like the rest of the cowards who play this game. Im tired of it, im trading Halo 3 in.


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  • 08.07.2008 12:55 PM PDT
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1.Infection: The infected have flood skins, In 1st person view, you see the flood claws, limbs to melee the un-infected.
The infected have the option to infect, or just kill, e.g. press certain button to vomit and infect, or simply melee and kill.
OR
Only carrier flood can infect, THESE will be the original, "pure" infected, those who spawn as infected, the carrier, and the little things inside the carriers must be protected by standard flood, to allow this, the vurnrable to fire, carriers and lil things, must infect humans using stealth to infect and convert the human player as a protector, who can only kill, not infect, un-infected kill all carriers and little things, they win, If infected manage to help little things(Lol) and carriers (Human players) to infect and stay alive, infected win.

2.Have the option to select different flood skins.

(This Idea is from the Half Life mod Zombie, where humans hold of a cottage, and zombies attack, breaking through, Idea was also from 28 weeks later)

Same Idea of actually being, a flood, and turning into one when infected, not the Halo 2 style, game with swords, a game made by Bungie, not players lol, make infection a lot more FUN! by Bungie actually IMPROVISING this time, rather than simply taking the game made by players, I'm sure this idea will be possible for Bungie.

This is a possibility, for Halo 3.

However, It's a rathar large request indeed, whether it's possible on console, I don't know.


  • 08.13.2008 6:41 AM PDT
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honestly

with all the complaining about remakes, and people putting out what just they want, i would suggest group chat and different weather and daytime settings

cause its not much, but to have a random time and weather on maps adds a nice twist

i don't know just seems more sensible to me

  • 08.16.2008 9:04 PM PDT

im guessing a filming option where you can lower guns or during filming in theater an option to lower everyone's guns (and raise). it would go well before the picture button.\

  • 08.17.2008 10:41 PM PDT