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Subject: Panel Discussion: TTL on Improving H3
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i think u should have less br's on team slayer

a sniper playlist

more forging objects and stuff

and make the legendary maps free

and change the vetoing system so u can pick the maps and gametypes u want

  • 06.05.2008 6:00 PM PDT
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I would really like more forge objects and weather affects. i also think previous halo maps should be added into the game. Snipers and Infection should be given their own playlists. I would also really love if pelicans could be added into multiplayer if possible, but bigger maps would have to be added too but it would be great and maybe phantoms too.

  • 06.05.2008 6:17 PM PDT
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more forge options,placeable troop hogs,scarabs in online possibly mini ones placeable in forge,LOCKOUT not a remake of lockout! maybe some old maps returning but with better graphics. i mean the maps not remakes with a few things changed here and there. maybe some options on changing the vehicles such as color or paintjobs, something interesting like that. also a 180 degree locking button for forge to help make everything straight :) o and a custom game searcher too. ( if thats even possible) i would like to play some custom games without having to remove my friends just to add people that play custom games. thx! :)

  • 06.05.2008 6:34 PM PDT

I would love to see a larger foundry type map its just too small. I like making big maps and i want it to be a big open space cuz sumtimes the bumps in other maps screw it up and also it needs to be taller. A Fun playlist in social that would have more stuff and forged maps or somesort of thing where everyone votes on a map that players in the match could provide or have more stuff that was takin out like prowlers, Gauss hogs, and maybe anti air wraiths. (NONE OF THESE IN RANKED LET ME REMIND U. Incinarary grendades, Fuel rod cannons, and what would be really cool but i dought this would happen and option to switch into a third person view like the missile pod but regular speed and with any weapons.
Also if theres a new multiplayer map pack Make a new way larger foundry like avalanche or bigger have a blood gulch remake (I know theres valhalla but theres Guardian and blackout.) and have a new type of map where theres two floating bases (One covie one human and theres a pelican and a covie dropship and they would be even and i would never stop playing that imagine air CTF battles! Also in theatre a skip button like fast forward but way faster i hate fast forwarding. In Forge openable doors that have buttons and in forge u could set how many times u could open and close them and also for the new foundry changable enviroments so like. Human (Factory) Snow (avalanche) Jungle (ghost town) and Covenant (lockout). Also more medals for weapons please. Rocket Spree, Hammer Spree, Sticky Spree, Wheelman spree, Skeleton spree (oddball), Needler Spree, Incinarate spree, and a medal for the noob combo,

Thanks For Your Time... xI Unholy Ix


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  • 06.05.2008 6:38 PM PDT
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I think a lot more people would stop playing halo 3 if their was no leading shots, especially with the BR. It's completely un-realistic, un-necessary, and just frustrating. I don't think I've heard anyone who likes leading. Even the pros have trouble with it. Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee fix it bungie.

  • 06.05.2008 6:49 PM PDT
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Serious Reccamendation:
This is not going to be full of stuff that we know will not happen. All this is totally feasable.
Im sure the Halo community would like and improved melee system. Also, I am sure that most of my people from MLG would like the BR spread fixed. All this would greatly add to Halo 3 competativeness.

~Thank you.

  • 06.05.2008 6:51 PM PDT
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leading should definitely stay as it seperates the boys from the men however, a reflex based melee system would dfinitely be better as well as fixing the BR spread to make the outcome of fights less random.

  • 06.05.2008 7:02 PM PDT

If you want to play some MLG customs. Send me a friend request.

1. The Br spread needs to be fixed. It makes the game more luck based than skill based.
2. Melee System. The Halo 2 melee system was FINE. You say it wasn't, but it really was. No one complained. All this trying to get rid of host advantage is making the game worse.
3. The playlists. Seriously, can you find someone who can make fair, balanced playlists. Were you playlists tested at all? The new Head to Head playlist is just awful. I'm sorry, but it is.
Thank You.

  • 06.05.2008 7:03 PM PDT

More achievements would be really awesome... I mean games have done it before and i don't think it is like armor where it would be extremely difficult to add to the game. (Certain # of kills) with a weapon would encourage me to play even more than I do now.. =D

  • 06.05.2008 7:18 PM PDT
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My game rules:

1. Camping- okay
2. Power weapons- go right ahead
3. Janitor (aka Scrapping)- also good
4. Spawn Killing- What, I'm supposed to give you a chance to kill me?

Maps and more Forge mainly.

I would like to see the Halo 2 melee system in, though. Sure, on custom games the host won 7/10 simultaneous melee battles, but at least I could understand it, whereas in Halo 3 I end up thinking "Huh?" in much more profanitive terms 8-9/10 times.

  • 06.05.2008 7:27 PM PDT
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Posted by: Zero V2
When people don't have any other reasonable explanation, they use a poor and stupid excuse to defend themselves. Way back in the Quaker days it was witches, and now it's videogames.

Bungie, If you wanted to eliminate host advantage get -blam!- dedicated servers for christs sake.
Also, dont listen to all the mental 10 year old shouting less BR starts. What the -blam!- are you thinking "less BR's?" Jesus. You've got some of the stupidest playlists (RoCkEt RaCe!!! YAY!!11! and Team Objective for example.) and you have people here screaming and praying for Ranked Team Snipers playlist.
Get rid of the godamn Assault Rifle completely. Its overpowered and by far the stupidest thing to implement into Halo 3 Matchmaking. I'd be happy with SMG starts for gods' sake.
If you want to create a new playlist like you did the new 'Head to Head' one, make sure its not catered to the retarded. Why the -blam!- is there a waypoint over my head when im in the lead. If im completely obliterating the opposition and they has no chance whatsoever, you think its fair for them to always know where I am when IM winning? -blam!- No.

Halo 3 is a phenomenal Game Bungie, don't get me wrong. but sometimes you have to put down your -blam!- crack rocks and bongs and THINK about some of the playlists. If you revert to listening to the little 10 year olds your going to have Swords on Valhalla before you know it.


Goodburn:
-More BR starts
-Less hammers
-Snipers playlist
-Tighten Br shot
-Fix hitboxes
-MLG 2v2 Playlist
-No more HC snowbound
-Option to disable tips
-Sniper delay between shots should be lower
-Camouflage to powerful
-Bullet registration mainly sniper needs to be fixed
-AR damage little bit to high, should do less damage to sheilds but mroe to health like halo 1
-Hitting someonein the back of the head is way to hard hit boxes should be incresed for t back of the head
-Needler needs to be nerfed
-Oddball melee strength to much, make it two hits instead of one


Also well said buddy.

P.S: Hayabusa armors' for n00bz and adolescents.

[Edited on 06.05.2008 8:02 PM PDT]

  • 06.05.2008 7:41 PM PDT

1 every forge object available on ALL maps.
2 Juggernaut weapon usage limited to only one or two guns. (such as if i only want the juggernaut to use a sword I can make him start with one but who ever kills the juggernaut has their weapons that they picked up. I would like it to be like the overshield or something where as soon as you become the juggernaut, you are forced to have a sword.(other gametypes as well)
3 (sadly) I want more custom game customizablity (yeah thats totaly a word)
4 more armor perms. (for elites and sparta's)
5 foundry x 2
6 a "float object" button in forge.
7 multi team infection. (more than one type of zombie can convert zombie to zombie. imagine the possibilities 8) )
8 NATURAL scenery in forge (trees rocks ... et. al.)
9 only flame thrower games.
10 unlimited turret and flamethrower
11 NON-detachable turrets
12 troop hog in multiplayer (with all seats rideable)
13 driveable AA wraith
14 "dead" scenery in forge (destroyed vehicles, dead bodies)
15 forced character (elites and sparta's) in multiplayer
16 copy things in forge. like if I build a cool house in foundry I want to copy it and put it on another map.
17 different FX that dont neccesarily change the atmosphere but change other things like players. (see trophy shot)
18 Size changeable FX "I like olde timey but I just want it to affect this one room." like the spawn areas where you can change the size.
19 players in all game types (juggernaut, vip, infection, oddball...you know) restricted to weapons based on their team. like team 1 can only use this gun this gun and this gun and team 2 can only use these certian guns.
20. larger space for custom content.
21. low gravity physics for EVERYTHING not just the Players. or only vehicles and not players.
22. armor perm LEGS
23. combined gametypes. like infection oddball, whoever holds the oddball is the zombie.and when they kill someone with the oddball that person becomes a zombie too, but cannot infect people. and when the ball changes hands the people who were zombies are cured.
24. alpha zombie is the only one that can infect. the other zombies are just cannon fodder.
25. gun racks in forge.
26. supply truck. in forge you load it up with guns and drive it around to your buddies.
27. mad max car chase (WITH ZOMBIES)
28. SOUND FX.......FX
29. multi flag CTF with like 4 flags per team.
30. all weapons available for all maps.
31. all vehicles available for all maps.
32. one team has different attributes than the other. such as in assault the attacking team is fast but the defending team is tougher.
33. a "spawn right here ....yes right here" button in forge( for floating objects)
34. a "spawn right here and soot/fly/accelerate in this direction" button in forge.
35. a hollow box object in forge.
36. a destructable hollow box in forge.
37. Moving forge objects. set on a specific path. (a self driving warthog or a self driving crate)
38. invisible walls that we can place so we arn't stacking boxes to keep half the map closed off.
39. targetable mancannons. that we can set to aim in a specific direction, speed, landing spot/zone, and range.
40. tanks....more tanks. oh I know, I can have as much tanks as I want or warthogs or any other vehicle, but either only one type at a time or it depending on the other objects and vehicles that have been placed (I have put down two wart hogs on an empty map. I now want 4 tanks per team. but I cannot have any more warthogs or anything exccept mongeesen)

I'll think of more. mostly add more forge stuff and More customizability

  • 06.05.2008 8:07 PM PDT

I think swat ball, swat capture the flag, and swat shotguns should be removed. These are mainly objective games and ruin the purpose of team swat. If people like those games, they should go play objective. Other than that you guys are doing and outstanding job with updating playlists and stuff. Keep it up!!!

  • 06.05.2008 8:16 PM PDT
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I would love to have a custom games finder like search for custom games or host a custom game.

That would make Halo 3

-Bloodred133

[Edited on 06.05.2008 8:44 PM PDT]

  • 06.05.2008 8:43 PM PDT

NEW ARMOR TYPES! most of the armor types you have to unlock, and i know it gives you somthing to do, but the elites are kinda neglected. New Armor on marketplace that you get when you buy it would be nice.



P.S. The BR is fine. It cant be perfect, or it will change the game! Bungie will have to balance everything out all over again.

[Edited on 06.05.2008 9:00 PM PDT]

  • 06.05.2008 8:56 PM PDT
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i luv this game and bungie i think snowbounds a good map u allways here people talk bad about it but maybe they should learn the level like i did i think halo is perfect but i get mvp most games i lose and think that mvp should get exp to and would like more armour choices im not asking for recon i now its yours but would just like more choices and i guess more levels would be nice i have call of duty but i dont play it or my other games i always play this im just sayin halos the best and u did a great job u rock bungie i dont care what anyone says call of duty sucks compared to halo halo is a 10/10 and would definatly play halo 4 if u made one ill continue to play halo 3 for as long as i can and support u guys in every way i can. im just glad u made halo i probally wouldnt play xbox live as much if you didnt make halo so just keep it commin and ill will keep playin. yay for bungie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 06.05.2008 8:57 PM PDT
Subject: Panel Discus sion: TTL on Improving H3
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1. New Armor (SPARTANS)
2. The Br spread needs to be fixed
3. Meele system
4. Ranked sniper playlist

thats all i want to see changed i love to see these things and i will probably play the game more.

  • 06.05.2008 9:12 PM PDT
Subject: Panel Discussion: TTL on Improving H3

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Id like to see a perment infection playlist and also not as much multi flags and single flags on big team

  • 06.05.2008 9:23 PM PDT

41. starting weapon: none (you need to find one)
42. night FX for all levels (and day light for blackout)
43. starting weapon can have only one clip or more (optional)
44. pick team color before start of the game
45. multi juggernaut. (they're on a team)
45. NO gravity
46. if your not in a vehicle within 10 seconds you die option.
47. deployable minefield (forge, not as an equipment, though that would be rad.)
48. deployable sentinal to follow you around.
49. trenches either in forge or in new maps.
50. forgeable elephants
51. suburban map with houses and stuff.
52. city map with tall buildings and stuff.
53. soccer field map.
54. a "turn everything this color" FX
55. opening and closing doors for forge
56. an assault bomb that can be planted anywhere for slayer games.
57. corner boxes for forge. (like the ones you can walk strait through just as a corner.)
58. changeable gravlift power. (how high it shoots you. up)
59. LONG ramps like the ones in ghost town but longer.
60. half pipes.


[Edited on 06.05.2008 9:50 PM PDT]

  • 06.05.2008 9:25 PM PDT
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Need to get rid of snowbound unless it is with BR's

also need to make standoff a more legit map, need to add more rocket ammo to the rockets, and need to put snipers on both sides of the map. so the team that controls the HOGS and laser will not automatically win.

also try to add more Pit BR's and more Guardian BR's, those have to be like the best maps in the game.

  • 06.05.2008 9:39 PM PDT
Subject: Panel Discussion: TTL on Improving H3

Seriously, the BR spread is ridiculous. When i play with it i end up hitting the person perfectly in the head like 4-11 times and they still don't die. And from far range i have to shoot all my shots, reload and shoot more. I'm sorry but it is really fustrating when that happens.

I really think the melee system is ridiculous i don't understand it at all, and its incredibly fustrating when i'm using a br and they other person shoots me with about 5 shots with the ar and beats me down.

And the spawn system isn't what i want at all, it always either puts me in the middle of the action defenseless, or puts me as far as possible away from the action when its a close slayer game or koth game.

I'm pretty sure this is all do-able and i would love halo 3 so much more. I like it now but it gets me incredibly fustrated sometimes. please fix this.

Thanks

  • 06.05.2008 9:41 PM PDT
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1 beat down system needs to be fixed, the first one who hits should win
2 AR needs to be weekend, like it shouldn't be a be a few shots then beet down for a kill, if it is like that it should be BR one shot then beet down
3 More PIT and more BLACKOUT and more GUARDIAN all BR's
4 BR should be the only starting weapon
5 less snipers in slayer
6 If u are the most positive in free for all, u should win, or at least get points
7 MVP needs to be fixed b/c person that is most positive should get it
8 The Shiz Legend should be a Level 50 b/c i -blam!- all the other 50s but i cant get one, that is ridiculous

  • 06.05.2008 9:53 PM PDT
Subject: Panel Discussion: TTL on Improving H3

I can think of several ways to make H3 better. First, put in some Gauss Hogs. I've never seen a Gauss hog in matchmaking before and I think it would add a cool twist to vehicular combat. Second, incindiary grenades. I think that they're too awesome to NOT be in matchmaking and I'm tired of seeing them only in some half-baked custom games.Third, they should put hornets in regular matchmaking. A BETTER hornet. The only good thing about the hornet in Avalanche is the paint scheme. It wasn't a very effective weapon system at all. Its only useful applications were transporting the flag carrier across the field and henpecking opponents to death with its weak machine guns. I mean, it dosn't have to be as powerful as the hornet in campaign, but at least give it some missiles or something, even if they're weaker or unguided, but don't leave it as it is! Fourth, Transport Hogs. They'd be an excellent way to ferry troops across the field and it would introduce an interesting element to vehicular defense when everyone has to work together to survive. Fifth, the Fuel Rod Gun. I know that it might be a little overpowered in the right hands, but it would be nice to see it on at least one map. Sixth, the AR needs tweaking. Don't get me wrong, the AR is a fantastic starting weapon and is extremely well balanced, but how about giving it a little more ammo? I know that its supposed to have a shallow clip, but it would'nt hurt to give it 35 or 40 rounds instead of 32. 32 is alright, and realistic when compared to modern assault rifles, but against shielded Spartans and Elites its just not quite effective enough. Seventh, change the Rocket Launcher. you dont have to give them their lock-on feature back (as awesome as that may be), but at least make the rockets faster. the rockets as they are now are too slow and give my opponents too much time to evade. In exchange, you could make the rockets slightly less powerful. Eighth, the ability to choose between several basic weapons at the beginning of each match and when you respawn would be nice. Nothing drastic like the Sniper Rifle or Laser, but imagine being able to choose between the AR, SMG, Plasma Rifle, and the Spiker whenever you spawn as your starting weapon. Each weapon is different but equal in different ways. Lastly, less team BRs. recent reductions weren't enough. the BR is a great weapon, but possession of it is ruined when EVERYONE has one. Well, thats more than several things, but its everything I can think of to make Halo even better.

  • 06.05.2008 10:02 PM PDT

When the dust settles, you will learn what true terror is.

41 pages of responses, sorry but I don't have enough time to read them all, so this may be a reposted thought, but there's something that bothers me with the respawn system. It seems like I'm getting spawned right into the middle of a firefight about a third of the time that I die, which in a lot of gametypes, means that I'm simply "feeding" the other team kills (I've had a 6-death streak of being spawnkilled in SWAT before...). I think if there's a fight going on in a respawn area, then it should be made preferable to spawn elsewhere. Just like teammates dying there gives it -100 points or whatever mechanics it is, if there are people taking damage in that area it should get -100 as well. just a thought.

  • 06.05.2008 10:21 PM PDT
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This composite list was compiled by a lowly fan...

-No more glitching armor pieces ( im a goddamn officer, and i have no recruit helmut!)
-New maps with elephants, or optional elephants in forge. (obviously only 2 or something)
-Noh moar teh haxorz!!!1 ("burp" excuse me...)
-Armor permutations in future downloads. I would love to post you guys some designs if you want, but this is just nit-pickery now.
-Now, i was thinking about the possibilities of this, and i don't know if this is up your sanctified alleyway, but maybe a workable version of the honour guard staff from Halo 2. You guys could always release that in a map pack, as some sort of weapon only available in those maps, not something that would be incorporated into older versions of forge.
(anyway, just an idea i thought would make mondo screenie moments.)

Thanks for listening to my -blam!-ing!

GCLeprechan, (seriously help me, i dont have the achievement or anything!)

  • 06.05.2008 10:43 PM PDT