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Subject: H2 Has been left for Dead!

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I feel encouraged to create this post because I am deeply saddened and equally frustrated by the fact that H2 has had absolutely zero attention and effort put into it since the introduction of Halo 3 to xbox live. It's such a shame, noone gives a damn about H2 at bungie anymore, the H2 page is never updated, the playlists haven't been updated for almost a year and a clear example that shows this: "H2 challenge" which clearly has no prize anymore is still on live. Halo 2 is the game that MADE xbox live without question, and is also the game that made bungie the renowned company it is now. It appears to me it is a deliberate effort to discourage players in Halo 2 and that Bungie don't want people to play H2 anymore. There's no longer money in it for them.
They want everyone to buy H3.
Pleas to the staff to update playlists and respond to the H2 community go completely amiss because the game is dying and they don't care about the faithfuls to the game that made xbox live.
In my opinion H2 absolutely kicks the hell out of H3 but bungie have moved and will never come back. *Holds head in hands and wipes a tear from an eye*

I still think bungie are awesome and what they do for the community is great, but they could at least just dedicate ONE guy to maintaining Halo 2 and listening to the still playing community, that would be enough for me. I heavily predict that this idea won't be contemplated, probably not even looked at by Bungie, but if any of you do, please consider it.

Thanks

Bruce

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  • 06.07.2008 7:05 PM PDT
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Don't get so worked up, man.

We're all here, and we all have our own experiences.
And they were great ones.
I still pride myself on executing Honor Guards with a pistol.

But things change and stuff happens
All the onus is on H-3.
And that's cool.
Because no one can ever take away the mad fun we've all had on H-2.
It's the stuff of legend now.
And (best part) it's still ours to have.
We're all here remembering.


  • 06.07.2008 10:25 PM PDT

H2 is the worst one by far. H2 is riddled with cheats, hax, and glitches. YOu only like it the best b/c H3 felt alot different than what you were used to. I hated H2 after playing it for thirty seconds because it was such an abomination. Seriously, no joke 30 seconds. I like it an all, it has good gameplay but it was such a change from CE that I didn't like it as much.. Theres no point in changing the playlists. the have everything set up just fine and they have everythign you want, snipes swat slaer objective games, FFA whats not to like.

Im actually reDLing the maps right now though b/c I havent played 2 n a while and I want to see what its like.

  • 06.07.2008 11:26 PM PDT

Phoenix is dead, long live Phoenix!
Is it?

Are all the DLC maps free yet?

  • 06.07.2008 11:30 PM PDT

they actually cost twice as much now


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Are all the DLC maps free yet?




JJ yeah they free, Im dling now;..

  • 06.07.2008 11:57 PM PDT

Well, nobody can really tell what a game is all about in 30 seconds. The sales and popularity of H2 speaks for itself.

I run construction crews for big companies and the executives always see it the same, "what have you done for us lately?" No matter what the game did for Bungie/Microsoft in the past, it's what the game is doing now that counts.

For me, H2 FTW!

  • 06.08.2008 12:22 AM PDT

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Posted by: Dibhousai
H2 is the worst one by far. H2 is riddled with cheats, hax, and glitches. YOu only like it the best b/c H3 felt alot different than what you were used to. I hated H2 after playing it for thirty seconds because it was such an abomination. Seriously, no joke 30 seconds. I like it an all, it has good gameplay but it was such a change from CE that I didn't like it as much.. Theres no point in changing the playlists. the have everything set up just fine and they have everythign you want, snipes swat slaer objective games, FFA whats not to like.

Im actually reDLing the maps right now though b/c I havent played 2 n a while and I want to see what its like.

Well I can see your point of view man but don't try putting words into my mouth.
I've played plenty of H3 and everytime I play I look at what has changed from H2 that makes the game far more noob friendly, Power Weapon orientated, a ridiculously powerful beat down (six assault rifle shots and a melee=death) and the assault rifle makes kills so easy to get on good skilled players.
My dad for example (yes he plays halo, about once a month lol), he's lucky if he get's 3 kills in H2 but in his first game on H3 he got 12! He absolutely sucks.
The opinions I've built up for the games come from a vast amount of playing time and for you to judge H2 in no more than 30 seconds and for the reasons you did, (I assume you witnessed hacking, glitches and cheating all within that time........not) is pretty ridiculous.
Anyway, this post isn't to argue about the pros and cons between the games, but just the neglection of Halo 2 live.
And I'll think you'll find that the playlists dont have everything the community wants. You just have to look at the recent posts from them. Why not change H2 challene back to rumble pit ranked. It would get plenty more players.
But as I said, Bungie no longer listens.

P.S - Just to repeat that I still think bungie's community interaction is awesome but the complete neglection of H2 since the release of H3 is pretty unfair and unessecary.

  • 06.08.2008 4:49 AM PDT

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Halo 2 is the game that MADE xbox live without question, and is also the game that made bungie the renowned company
^ that part right there: false. that'd be most likely marathon games, or halo C.E.
well, they cater the majority of the fans. plus isn't having another playlist good?

  • 06.08.2008 9:46 AM PDT

Why are you here?

Posted by: Dibhousai
H2 is the worst one by far. H2 is riddled with cheats, hax, and glitches. YOu only like it the best b/c H3 felt alot different than what you were used to. I hated H2 after playing it for thirty seconds because it was such an abomination. Seriously, no joke 30 seconds. I like it an all, it has good gameplay but it was such a change from CE that I didn't like it as much.. Theres no point in changing the playlists. the have everything set up just fine and they have everythign you want, snipes swat slaer objective games, FFA whats not to like.

Im actually reDLing the maps right now though b/c I havent played 2 n a while and I want to see what its like.


You probably didn't play in the golden years of 05 and 06, best gaming experience of my life.

  • 06.08.2008 10:46 AM PDT

I am a Halo 3 man. In my mind Halo 3 is a more enjoyable game due to the fairer game play and the balanced weapons. I do however, miss the good 'ol days of trouncing the enemy on Coagulation. It is my belief that Bungie has given Halo 2 very little attention due to its predecessor's popularity. 125,455 player in Halo 3 right now compared to the 2,806 players in Halo 2. By far, it is obvious which one they are more likely to give attention. When Halo 2 came online did the Halo: Combat Evolved players demand DLC. Did they demand added materials? No, they sat quietly and let the fad pass. Why the some two-thousand people desire new material is beyond me. Halo 3 is having its era. And then it will pass and Bungie will come out with another game. Some people will still stubbornly play Halo 3 rather than the Next Big Thing who will likely demand more DLC. It is a never ending circle that will continue until some company decided to foolishly support their old game more than their new game. After all how are they supposed to sell more games if they don't add anything.

YF

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  • 06.08.2008 11:10 AM PDT
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Who here thinks they should make a uber powerful Grunt Plasma Rifle thats shoots out naked flaming Chuck Norrises?

I agree man, halo 3 blows compared to halo 2. Halo 3 is far too easy and all of the good weapons in halo 2 suck in halo 3 (im looking at you br). I remember many great friday nights in front of my xbox playing BTB skirmish on xbox live. I want BTB skirmish back in halo 2, that was the most fun I've ever had on an online game.

Sadly they decide that the halo 3 beta and halo 3 are better than BTB skrimish and get rid of it. They need to update the playlists badly because right now almost none of them are worth playing besides team hardcore.

  • 06.08.2008 1:58 PM PDT

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When I played Halo2 yesterday, either nobody played on my team or they quit, while the other team teabagged my dead body, when I was the only person who actually played on my team. Halo2 has gone to the dogs in multiplayer. It really has been left for dead.

  • 06.08.2008 2:30 PM PDT

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KSI absolutely sucks and the whole clan is garbage. What a Noob Troop.

there are ups and downs to both games.

i like halo 2 because there was no crappy assault rifle. h3 is filled with shooting and charging with the assault rifle and i hate that, it't not the way the SMG was in h2. the mauler also sucks in halo 3.

HOWEVER, halo 3 takes far more skill. the assult rifle can actually hit people at long range if u do litle bursts and hit ppl in the head. in addition, there is WAY too much autoaim in halo 2. it takes almost no skill to get a headshot and that's why everyone was able to do it in halo 2. The BR isn't any worse in halo 3, it just takes more skill. You're probably pissed because you can't get headshots. that's ur fault, not the weapon's, just work on your aim. auto aim has been scaled down a little to make the game harder, step up to the challenge instead of complaining.

  • 06.08.2008 3:46 PM PDT

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Posted by: spartan11bungie
Halo 2 is the game that MADE xbox live without question, and is also the game that made bungie the renowned company
^ that part right there: false. that'd be most likely marathon games, or halo C.E.
well, they cater the majority of the fans. plus isn't having another playlist good?

Yeh fair enough, Halo CE probably put bungie on the map. But as far as I know (having never heard much about the marathon games) Halo 2 was the most populated xbox live game of it's time.
what do you mean by "isn't having another playlist good"? If you're talking about H2 Challenge then no, it definately isn't. I'd be surprised if the number of MM games on that playlist exceeded single figures in a day.

  • 06.08.2008 3:47 PM PDT

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Posted by: Yellow Snow77
there are ups and downs to both games.

i like halo 2 because there was no crappy assault rifle. h3 is filled with shooting and charging with the assault rifle and i hate that, it't not the way the SMG was in h2. the mauler also sucks in halo 3.

HOWEVER, halo 3 takes far more skill. the assult rifle can actually hit people at long range if u do litle bursts and hit ppl in the head. in addition, there is WAY too much autoaim in halo 2. it takes almost no skill to get a headshot and that's why everyone was able to do it in halo 2. The BR isn't any worse in halo 3, it just takes more skill. You're probably pissed because you can't get headshots. that's ur fault, not the weapon's, just work on your aim. auto aim has been scaled down a little to make the game harder, step up to the challenge instead of complaining.

Dude, have you even looked at the title of this post. As I've already explained I'm not comparing the two games (even though H2 is my definate favourite), I'm just expressing the way "H2 has been left for dead".
And please don't put words into my mouth, the reasons you give for me apparently being pissed at Halo 3 are far from the truth.
And never say Halo 3 takes more skill than H2, I would agree in saying there are definate areas of the game and different elements that require more skill in H3, but the same goes for H2 on different levels. The heavy auto-aim means you have to make more effort to beat your opponent. And the nimbleness and agility in the spartan in H2 greatly exceeds that in H3 giving the more skilled players a rightful way to exploit it.
But anyway, areguements about which game is more skilled/better/enjoyable are pointless when each person has a strong opinion so I'm not trying to change anybody's mind.

I just want bungie to see that H2 requires and deserves a bit of TLC man!

  • 06.08.2008 3:58 PM PDT

Why Halo 2 is left for dead? Simple. Because Halo 3 is new and Shiny. Halo 2 is old and not shiny. Major companies like Microsoft go for the Big shinies like H3 and leave old Shinies like Halo 2 tucked in the corner.

Sure, All of you would like to see some more support for this game. But it aint gonna happen. Halo 2 did it's job of making more money for Microsoft. Now that Halo 3 has come out, They're turning their attention on that game and leaving H2 to rot and die like the others. It's simple marketing. Halo 2 isn't going to make as much money anymore as Halo 3 is now. Microsoft is going to support the game that brings in the most dough, and that's Halo 3. I'm not saying that Halo 2 isn't as good as Halo 3, but H3 is the one making players buy 360s. In time, Halo 3 will fade into nonexsistence. But until then, Halo 2 can join the club of forgotten old timers now.

  • 06.08.2008 5:33 PM PDT

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Halo 2 isnt dead at all people still play it and most people on H2 think H3 sucks and it does the overall feel of the game is horrible h3 can be better described as the one game that pisses pros off more than halo 2 1. BR is now weak 2. player has less flexibility 3. only hope of winning iss to go nooby and that just not right for people who are legit H3 should go back to the drawing board 4.Halo 3 has lessened the good weaopons and strengthened the nooby weopons H3 is S H I T i rest my case

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  • 06.08.2008 5:49 PM PDT

AvengingSoul, never become a lawyer. You just blew any evidence/relevance of the rest of your post.

YF

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Well i havent played h2 in a while, cause my 360 HDD stopped working, But its still my favorite online FPS.

  • 06.08.2008 6:25 PM PDT

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  • 06.08.2008 6:59 PM PDT

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  • 06.08.2008 7:02 PM PDT
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I have had so many fun moments in customs in Halo 2, from Tower of Power to just random glitching games when you spawned with rockets and sword. Or when you and a few friends would sit in a lobby late at night and just talk, or make prank phone calls. There are so many fun things about Halo 2, if only more people played it now.

  • 06.08.2008 7:56 PM PDT
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They follow the money trail. And most people went for H3. Sorry I love this game too and cherish the memories but. Sadly I think its gone.

  • 06.09.2008 2:31 AM PDT

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Yah I know Bungie dont care about Halo 2 anymore. But the blame goes to mostly the players. We used to get around like 40,000 people online at one time last year, but now since halo , its around tops like 3000 online compared to halo 3 like 100,000.

If we bring back the gamers to halo 2, they will start caring. All we got to do is, keep playing halo 2 and tell your friends to come back, and keep spreading the word.

They will start caring if halo 2 population will increase. If we get a higher population. There will even be a possibilty of getting new maps if enough population is here.

  • 06.09.2008 1:38 PM PDT
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Wtf? H2 isn't " dead .

Many people still play H2, and besides H3 is better. And h1.

But that's beside the point. There are still hundreds of thousands of people who still play H2 everyday. And H2's attention hasn't reached 0? Wtf, where did you get that?

H2 IS NOT better than H3, or anywhere near. And H1 beats both, because it's better, it's full, and it's much more fun than any other one. I rest my case.

-Bed

  • 06.09.2008 3:06 PM PDT

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