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Posted by: RotNRollHunter
omg things like ctf heavy on Valhalla make me love this playlist. (being a vehicle addict also helps) keep this up bungie, I believes in you's


I have yet to play heavy mode, are the vehicles changed?

  • 06.10.2008 8:37 PM PDT

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Looks like I'm playing RBTB. I haven't played it in awhile due to the problems it was having. I'm glad it's staying. :)

  • 06.10.2008 9:05 PM PDT
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iheartRBTB

  • 06.10.2008 11:07 PM PDT

Imho i dont understand how you can make such a fuz about this while there are other playlists that are more underplayed and should have been removed so long ago.
BTB will be fine, ppl like playing it (unlike the incredible lag sometimes) but admitted there are some issues, but srry about this bungie but i find it disgusting you trhow those problems in our face and claim them to be ours...
Getting RBTB to work is easy and always has been, yet you still havent got the clue.

First off all about the lag, i can imagine that there is no more you can do about that, but it does decrease the game experience and many ppl dont wanna play it because of this, however this is not our fault..

Secondly, how do you except ppl to masivly play RBTB if there are no maps even remotly equal to the old BTB maps. Right now there isnt a single map that comes close to the old ones. We need a map that is big, not only in lenght but also in height !
May i remind you of Headlong, not only a big map, but with an amazing amount of places differing from lenght to height.
Or coagulation(possibly the best BTB map ever), this map was huge, or atleast it felt huge ! Because it wasnt jammed with cool fx everywhere showing off the engine.It was just a big map, good vehicles and weapons, and let the rest to us...
Also Waterworks, This map also huge !, If you were not tactical and didnt waste your warthogs it took you 3 minutes to just walk to the other side !!
Yet all the current maps dont have this! Do you not understand ?? Every noob can just walk up to you in 10 seconds and start shooting his AR on you.
And again, this is not our fault, im not disrespecting you guys, but you cant find the mistake on our end, and then to dare to give us the obligation to keep it alive, while it is harldy worth to stay alive is kinda disgusting.

Lastly, if you would delete the Social BTB, where do you think all those ppl would go ? 50% would go to RBTB ( the other half are guests) and the would help improve the population and the development greatly.

Now to go adress something i said in the beginning, why are you putting so much presure on RBTB, while there actually are still ppl who love it, but you leave other playlists untouched.
May i remind you Bungie that Team Objective it still in the playlists, and everytime i check it, there is an average of 400 ppl in it max !
Yet you will be able to provide me with solid numbers on this, i do feel the community and the average halo-player and i feel no love for team objective.
If you would take away RBTB and leave Objective in the playlists, i fear i finnaly dont understand you ppl anymore...

To end this off i want to make something very clear. I still love you bungie, although its uncondional love, dont push us too far. I realise you guys work very hard for our gaming experience and i appreciate that hugely, but there is no denying that there are some serious problems in BTB and they could get solved with enough time and some good advice.

Feel free to respond to this, i would prefer you would because id like to know how either Bungie and other ppl stand against this.
Plz do remember i used to play BTB non-stop and on my other account it was the first and the last thing i played on halo 2, so i do feel what i like my BTB to be like.

Still Loving Bungie,
Greetz,

x H3 x Mercy

PS: if my english isnt perfect, plz overlook it, my native languege isnt english
PSS: Im also posting this on the forum.

  • 06.10.2008 11:29 PM PDT

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I'm asleep, yet I'm so afraid"

I agree with the above poster. Halo 3 is missing a lot of the good BTB maps that made Halo 2 so enjoyable: Coagulation, Headlong, Waterworks (A little iffy on that one), Terminal and I'm surprised no one mentioned Colossus (Probably because no one liked that map.) Factor in the massive lag that seems to be apparent in almost every match, and the result isn't good. Of course, I never could quite understand why Bungie hasn't taken a look at other hoppers, such as Rocket Race or Multi Team, which barely have a few thousand at a time.

Also, if this is as the announcement says and all of the "restrictions" are lifted, won't that mean that (Hypothetically, of course) if you could find 16 other people, you could get into a gigantic party and boost with Double EXP?

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  • 06.10.2008 11:35 PM PDT
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Oh it will survive, as long as you keep it double exp, and add banshees to the covies gametype. Seriously, the banshee is a covie car! It should be in covie games.

  • 06.10.2008 11:36 PM PDT
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I would play RBTB a lot more if sandtrap was never used again... I hate that map with a passion, the elephants ruin CTF because people just drive them next to eachother to end it and slayer is obnoxious because it usually lags and being such a wide open map, you allways end up dieing for some unknown reason. Remove that map and i'd play so much more

  • 06.11.2008 12:05 AM PDT
Subject: Cancel Watch: Ranked Big Team Battle

youtube search me.

iv been playing RBTB as much as i can. iv played tons of games in that playlist or. i hope it stays

  • 06.11.2008 12:10 AM PDT
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Once DXP is gone, it will go back to what it was. Thank laggers\cheaters for this.

  • 06.11.2008 12:48 AM PDT

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Keep it. There are that many playlists out at the moment that some are going to have a smaller population than others.


And the fact its as fun as hell, and its only the stereotypes that are ruining it (those who think BTB is a Lag fest are 100% wrong. I get more lag in SWAT than in BTB).

  • 06.11.2008 12:56 AM PDT
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I love Big Team Battle, the only prob with it is how long it takes to connect you to other players. I've been sent back to "restarting search" far too many times...

Yeah I have to say I haven't had too much lag in BTB. It's usually in Skirmish...

[Edited on 06.11.2008 1:59 AM PDT]

  • 06.11.2008 1:58 AM PDT
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RBTB should not go, it's how Halo should be played.

  • 06.11.2008 2:45 AM PDT
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lol, seems like this board are the only people that want it to stay

Its struggling, even with double exp its still dead

  • 06.11.2008 3:32 AM PDT

Posted by: x WarT0rn x
I hope it survives, RBTB is so much fun :D


Yes, me too. Big Team Social is just a killfest for me usually, whilst RBTB is an awesome challenge.
I love RBTB. Think I'm Skill Level 22 in or something.

KEEP RBTB!!!

Oh it will survive, as long as you keep it double exp, and add banshees to the covies gametype. Seriously, the banshee is a covie car! It should be in covie games.

Thank you!! I thought I was the only one that noticed this...

[Edited on 06.11.2008 3:51 AM PDT]

  • 06.11.2008 3:41 AM PDT
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I hope it survives.. i love playing RBTB, would be a loss if they took that away from MM.

Too bad there is not so many players with the skill over 40 in it yet.. im stuck on 42 atm. ^^

[Edited on 06.11.2008 7:19 AM PDT]

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Honestly I don't think it's fair that RBTB is getting defended in the first place. Many of the gametypes that I loved playing were gone after a month because of low population, with no effort put forth to keep them around. Why is such an inconsistent, laggy experience being protected so much when things like team control and social doubles were removed rather quickly without being given the same attention. I didn't see any Double EXP months for those hoppers. Also, some modes that people have been waiting on, like Team Snipers, have taken a long time to implement, so why are we wasting time on a dying hopper that has a social alternative instead of putting that same effort into ideas and hoppers that haven't had a chance yet? If anything, let's give some other hoppers that are in the same situation a fair chance just like RBTB is getting before we decide to remove them.

  • 06.11.2008 7:21 AM PDT
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NOOOOOO i love RBTB but if you take it out i suggest Shotty Snipers playlist =P

  • 06.11.2008 8:22 AM PDT

Edge 2.0 - The New Sandtrap, but out of the map!!!!

Posted by: x H3 x Mercy
Imho i dont understand how you can make such a fuz about this while there are other playlists that are more underplayed and should have been removed so long ago.
BTB will be fine, ppl like playing it (unlike the incredible lag sometimes) but admitted there are some issues, but srry about this bungie but i find it disgusting you trhow those problems in our face and claim them to be ours...
Getting RBTB to work is easy and always has been, yet you still havent got the clue.

First off all about the lag, i can imagine that there is no more you can do about that, but it does decrease the game experience and many ppl dont wanna play it because of this, however this is not our fault..

Secondly, how do you except ppl to masivly play RBTB if there are no maps even remotly equal to the old BTB maps. Right now there isnt a single map that comes close to the old ones. We need a map that is big, not only in lenght but also in height !
May i remind you of Headlong, not only a big map, but with an amazing amount of places differing from lenght to height.
Or coagulation(possibly the best BTB map ever), this map was huge, or atleast it felt huge ! Because it wasnt jammed with cool fx everywhere showing off the engine.It was just a big map, good vehicles and weapons, and let the rest to us...
Also Waterworks, This map also huge !, If you were not tactical and didnt waste your warthogs it took you 3 minutes to just walk to the other side !!
Yet all the current maps dont have this! Do you not understand ?? Every noob can just walk up to you in 10 seconds and start shooting his AR on you.
And again, this is not our fault, im not disrespecting you guys, but you cant find the mistake on our end, and then to dare to give us the obligation to keep it alive, while it is harldy worth to stay alive is kinda disgusting.

Lastly, if you would delete the Social BTB, where do you think all those ppl would go ? 50% would go to RBTB ( the other half are guests) and the would help improve the population and the development greatly.

Now to go adress something i said in the beginning, why are you putting so much presure on RBTB, while there actually are still ppl who love it, but you leave other playlists untouched.
May i remind you Bungie that Team Objective it still in the playlists, and everytime i check it, there is an average of 400 ppl in it max !
Yet you will be able to provide me with solid numbers on this, i do feel the community and the average halo-player and i feel no love for team objective.
If you would take away RBTB and leave Objective in the playlists, i fear i finnaly dont understand you ppl anymore...

To end this off i want to make something very clear. I still love you bungie, although its uncondional love, dont push us too far. I realise you guys work very hard for our gaming experience and i appreciate that hugely, but there is no denying that there are some serious problems in BTB and they could get solved with enough time and some good advice.

Feel free to respond to this, i would prefer you would because id like to know how either Bungie and other ppl stand against this.
Plz do remember i used to play BTB non-stop and on my other account it was the first and the last thing i played on halo 2, so i do feel what i like my BTB to be like.

Still Loving Bungie,
Greetz,

x H3 x Mercy

PS: if my english isnt perfect, plz overlook it, my native languege isnt english
PSS: Im also posting this on the forum.


Firstly, more people would complain about the lack of social BTB than Ranked because it is the main contributer to the guest online system.

Secondly, they can't remove Team Objective because it's a CORE game. If Team Slayer or Lone Wolves population dropped down considerably, they couldn't remove it because there'd be no CORE Team Slayer mode or no CORE FFA Mode. Likewise there needs to be a CORE Objective mode.

Unremovable Playlists:

Lone Wolves
Team Slayer
Team Objective
MLG (unless for some reason they disbanded)
Rumble Pit
Social Slayer
Social Skirmish
DLC Playlists

(Although they can gain a drastic make over, like Team Objective becoming CTF + Assault)

Removable Playlists: (Lack of Numbers)

Team Doubles
Ranked BTB
Team SWAT
Head To Head
Social BTB
Rocket Race
Multi-Team

NOTE: These aren't going to be removed (most of them) because they're still drawing in a lot of people. But they, if no one wanted to play them COULD be removed.

Posted by: MU Tigers2010
I would play RBTB a lot more if sandtrap was never used again... I hate that map with a passion, the elephants ruin CTF because people just drive them next to eachother to end it and slayer is obnoxious because it usually lags and being such a wide open map, you allways end up dieing for some unknown reason. Remove that map and i'd play so much more


I would rather let it die than remove the only Big map from that playlist (unless you get lucky and all 16 people have Avalanche)

[Edited on 06.11.2008 9:12 AM PDT]

  • 06.11.2008 9:06 AM PDT

I tried to go in RBTB yesterday with one of my friends to show our support. But after a 13 minute wait, and 'almost' going into 3 different games. We said screw it. I like BTB games, but for some reason RBTB doesn't like me.

  • 06.11.2008 9:12 AM PDT

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I hope RBTB doesn't go away, I always have fun in that playlist, even though I don't play it too often. I'll be playing it more now that its giving away Double EXP.

  • 06.11.2008 9:19 AM PDT
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I hope it doesn't go away. I mean the last game I had on RBTB was a heavy multi flag CTF. Epic

  • 06.11.2008 9:28 AM PDT

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its gonna be ok

  • 06.11.2008 9:40 AM PDT

I'm probably twice your age, punk!

Oh, and say hi to your Mom.

I think more people would play if the lobby wait time wasn't so long. I'm not a big fan of RBTB. For a ranked playlist it seems too out of control for any one person to make much of a difference. I'll give it try again in the next few days. Maybe I'll change my mind.

Hey, what happened to my Legendary member status??? I've been demoted to "member"!?!?

[Edited on 06.11.2008 10:00 AM PDT]

  • 06.11.2008 9:58 AM PDT