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Posted by: Dill X
Bring the Noise, the theory on Pangea would be a nice tie in to this, since Pangea was said to be around almost 200 million years ago, and the Earth's plates move quite slow, it would prove that the Earth is much, much older than we would all think.




Yes I agree. That is why I believe Atlantis may have something to do with it. It's the oldest human story that I can think of. The Bermuda Triangle part is obvious after what the crystal in "First Strike" did.

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im a 18 year old college student with i bigger grasp of life and god then you are so you and your science can look else where to spread your anti-god belifs. Just like liberals you attack my credibility because you cant fight my facts. "your third grade vocabulary" you make me laugh

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"Science without relgion is lame; religion without science is blind."-Albert Einstein
Science and religion need to be two conflicting topics because we still do not have the true answer to this answer, "how was the Earth and all life created?"
There could be both a religous and scientific answer to this question, but both need each other to make logical sense.

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Posted by: Kalisoldier
the less you belive in creation? ight there big boy how bout this go kill yourself then with biology someday we will bring you back to life and tell us what the after life was like? oh wait you couldnt because the SOUL of your clone will be different and science cant clone souls because our soul is our direct link to God tell that to your liberal minded friends who want no word of God in our society!



You know what's funny? Other than your horrible grammar? There is no evidence to prove that there is such a thing as a soul. Anatomy still has yet to find one in the body. When one is found you let me know.

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Posted by: Kalisoldier
im a 18 year old college student with i bigger grasp of life and god then you are so you and your science can look else where to spread your anti-god belifs. Just like liberals you attack my credibility because you cant fight my facts. "your third grade vocabulary" you make me laugh



Yeah I believe you are 18 (note sarcasm). You say you have a bigger grasp of life and god than me (well you tryed, I had a hard time making it out), yet you know nothing about me, nor my religious beliefs. I have already told you I am baptist. I'm just too intellegent to take the "God did it" answer to everything.

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There you go with your "science" do you have kids? i had twin sisters they were brought up exactly the same both treated perfect got everything they wanted, now tell me if there is no soul what possed my sister to commit suicide at the age of 17 while my other sister will be attending stanford university this fall. neither were neglected, both got everything they wanted both seemed perfectly happy yet the SOUL of my sister felt lonely and scared. THERE IS SOMETHING DEEPER MORE RELIGIOUS IN US AND THATS OUR SOUL YOU WILL NOT FIND IT THROUGH SCIENCE ONLY THROUGH GOD.
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Posted by: Kalisoldier
the less you belive in creation? ight there big boy how bout this go kill yourself then with biology someday we will bring you back to life and tell us what the after life was like? oh wait you couldnt because the SOUL of your clone will be different and science cant clone souls because our soul is our direct link to God tell that to your liberal minded friends who want no word of God in our society!



You know what's funny? Other than your horrible grammar? There is no evidence to prove that there is such a thing as a soul. Anatomy still has yet to find one in the body. When one is found you let me know.

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Wow, you must be seven years old. Don't talk to me untill you learn english.

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heres a thought do u have to have god to have miracles occur. people make miracles every day. does ne body accept that there is more than one universe?

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See people, read this thread when you cant fight the facts you attack someones credibility that is what you doing bring the noise your admitting you can not engage in smart conversation with an eighteen year old and that scares you. It scares you that your biology major cant fight for you when i bring up a solid case you my friend are an iggnorant liberal.
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Wow, you must be seven years old. Don't talk to me untill you learn english.

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Yes, but there is also a fine line about what science can prove and what it can't. Science can't prove how Lazerus was raised from the dead by Jesus Christ after he had been dead for days, and can't prove that there is no God.
I am a Catholic myself, and believe that yes there can be a scientificaly proven answer for some things, but other things need no answer. We have our beliefs, and even if we are told one day that there is no such thing as God or the Soul, most of us will not believe it. Scientist are not able to prove everything with a theory or a hyptothesis, since they really don't have any idea what really happened. Only those who were there when Jesus Christ perfrormed his miracles, or when Moses stood on Mount Sinai are able to prove what really happened. To get to my point is that, science can prove many things, but when it comes to changing mine and other people's beliefs, we will not believe it. Catholics have their own faith, so do Buddhists and the Native peoples, but in the end we all must have the hope and faith that their is someone watching down on us, and that person is God.

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Posted by: Kalisoldier
See people, read this thread when you cant fight the facts you attack someones credibility that is what you doing bring the noise your admitting you can not engage in smart conversation with an eighteen year old and that scares you. It scares you that your biology major cant fight for you when i bring up a solid case you my friend are an iggnorant liberal.
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Wow, you must be seven years old. Don't talk to me untill you learn english.



Omg man, first you haven't stated any facts. Second how dare you call me ignorant when you can't even spell the word? I could also care less what some 18 year old kid (which you are not) thinks. You pretending to be 18 is pointless because I would still be older than you. Call me "iggnorant" when you can spell it correctly.

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One thing, all those experiments do indead show that its possible for the building blocks of life to have evolved here on early earth naturally. But do we have any proof that thats what happened? All you've proven is that it is possible but as I'm sure you all know simply because something is possible or even proboble does not mean that is the way it happened.

Also, since this has become yet another religious debate, with the same points and counter points I have seen a million times, let me attempt to put it to rest with this.

Science and Reliegion are not seprate! In fact if you read your bible and study science the more we discover about our world the more we seem to prove what is written there. These are not night and day sides. If you choose to make them that way you can, but then your arguing for the sake of conflict. If you beleive in God then you beleive he created the heavens and the Earth, which means that all scientific fact in the world was created by him as well. In the bible is says that God gave the earth to man, that he gave us dominon over it. Is it so hard to beleive that science is the tool he gave us to accomplish this task?

[Edited on 4/21/2004 2:23:18 PM]

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If so many people believe in God and so many people (including I) have faith in God I do not think that their could be an answer to some religous questions. I remember saying to my friend once who had been wondering if their was God or not, and I said, "If their wasn't any God or Heaven, just think. Almost everyone's way of living and beliefs would be a joke. And seeing so many people believing in God, I think that their is a God, or else this would be the biggest joke in human history."

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i miracle is simply a gift from God, A baby being born that is a mirical to witness life its self entering the world. A man who is shot 9 times once in the head and survives that is a miracle .... simply put an unexplainable act.

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Posted by: covenantcrusher
heres a thought do u have to have god to have miracles occur. people make miracles every day. does ne body accept that there is more than one universe?



I'm not sure about more than 1 universe, but I do believe there are are more dimensions than we think.

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I say that the forerunners built these Rings and set off one of the "galactic explosions" used for Flood extermination (like we test atom bombs) and thats where the "Big Bang" came from. Forerunners being ( i say) phychics, saw a future where a race of things (Humans) were created as a side effect of a Ring detonation, and would eventually wipe the forerunners out, went "Oh -blam!-" and packed up and left. i know this doesnt answer WHAT the forerunners are, i think they are still alive on that gas giant near Halo, and are just biding their time.

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Posted by: Kalisoldier
i miracle is simply a gift from God, A baby being born that is a mirical to witness life its self entering the world. A man who is shot 9 times once in the head and survives that is a miracle .... simply put an unexplainable act.



Wow, everytime you post it just gets worse. A baby being born is very much explainable.

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Do you Know me? do you want to know me? I carless how old you think i am the oint is you dont belive in god you said and i qoute "the bible is crap" someday you will relize your ignorant and are amazed at how empty your life will feel because you havent found god.

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It's too bad that us here today will not be able to see what the far ends of the universe really look like, or actually fly in space. Hopefully one day we will be able to actually find out if their is other life than us (i.e. aliens). If there are aliens, I hope we won't neglect and destroy them like everything else us humans find.

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Posted by: Dill X
It's too bad that us here today will not be able to see what the far ends of the universe really look like, or actually fly in space. Hopefully one day we will be able to actually find out if their is other life than us (i.e. aliens). If there are aliens, I hope we won't neglect and destroy them like everything else us humans find.



Actually we can see what the far ends of the universe look like. Go to the NASA website. The Hubble Telescope works wonders. We are able to fly in space as well. We do it all the time.

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It is explainable to the point of a man fertilizing a woman but that process of life and magic and love there is something there and i can tell you have no kids you never experienced that mirical and it truely is a gift from God.

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Posted by: Kalisoldier
Do you Know me? do you want to know me? I carless how old you think i am the oint is you dont belive in god you said and i qoute "the bible is crap" someday you will relize your ignorant and are amazed at how empty your life will feel because you havent found god.



Don't misquote me. I said the bible is a joke. Other than that, I couldn't make sense of anything else you wrote.

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Posted by: Kalisoldier
It is explainable to the point of a man fertilizing a woman but that process of life and magic and love there is something there and i can tell you have no kids you never experienced that mirical and it truely is a gift from God.



Wrong again. I have a daughter she is 2, and her name is Alexis.

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No I meant like all of us actually being able to experience flying in space, and being able to actually see the far ends of the universe.
It puzzles me though...there must be more than one universe. If there was only one universe, what would be the end of the universe? Would it just go in the cirlce pattern, meaning you could go around an eventually end up in the same spot as where you had started? Or would there be even more beyond that...I wonder if there really even is like an and to the universe, or if it just goes on forever.

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Im sure you also belive in abortion because as far as i can tell you as TERRIFIED to see that God is the answer not amino acids and rocks and water why is everything so perfect we need water to survive water is recycled through rain we breathe oxygen that plants give off and they breathe carbon dioxide that we give off........ everything is perfect, sure science can explain how it works but HOW WAS THAT PROCESS CONCIEVED? God made the system of life and looks over us we have freewill to do what we want now the world is not so perfect in the sense that other nations control thier people like slaves and that is why we have freewill you need to be strong belive in god and fight for that freedom we here in the States are blessed and so are you you are Forever gratefull to this nation UNDER GOD that gives you the freedom and protection to have your iggnorant point of veiws.

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