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Subject: Forerunners CANNOT be Humans.
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Posted by: Dill X
No I meant like all of us actually being able to experience flying in space, and being able to actually see the far ends of the universe.
It puzzles me though...there must be more than one universe. If there was only one universe, what would be the end of the universe? Would it just go in the cirlce pattern, meaning you could go around an eventually end up in the same spot as where you had started? Or would there be even more beyond that...I wonder if there really even is like an and to the universe, or if it just goes on forever.



Well there is an end of this universe. Our universe is hurtling outward from a single spot in the middle of itself, at an incredible speed. Go to google.com and search for string theory. It's the theory that our universe came from a big bang. Then it will collapse upon itself and crunch back up. Then bang again lol. Really though it is quite interesting.

  • 04.21.2004 2:33 PM PDT
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*Nods*

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Yeah, I know what the Big Bang is. Ever thought of teaching this stuff lol.

  • 04.21.2004 2:35 PM PDT
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Posted by: Kalisoldier
Im sure you also belive in abortion because as far as i can tell you as TERRIFIED to see that God is the answer not amino acids and rocks and water why is everything so perfect we need water to survive water is recycled through rain we breathe oxygen that plants give off and they breathe carbon dioxide that we give off........ everything is perfect, sure science can explain how it works but HOW WAS THAT PROCESS CONCIEVED? God made the system of life and looks over us we have freewill to do what we want now the world is not so perfect in the sense that other nations control thier people like slaves and that is why we have freewill you need to be strong belive in god and fight for that freedom we here in the States are blessed and so are you you are Forever gratefull to this nation UNDER GOD that gives you the freedom and protection to have your iggnorant point of veiws.




Stfu. You know nothing about my morals or my views on abortion. You are a kid shut up. You are clueless. Quit calling me ignorant when you can't even spell it correctly. I'm done talking to you. I prefer not to waste my time talking to little kids.

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im sorry i side tracked a little on my last post .... I dont belive you have a daughter and if you do God help her. Because your views of we dont need god god means nothing its all science those veiws will bring down our society.

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Posted by: Dill X
Yeah, I know what the Big Bang is. Ever thought of teaching this stuff lol.



LoL, naw. Still trying to learn it an understand it all myself.

  • 04.21.2004 2:37 PM PDT
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OH but you said i was not 18 didnt you? Now im a little kid? yes yes thats right your wrong again.

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exactly, where i said in my earlier post. the main reply is its just a game. my main reply is: perhaps our destiny has decided to use games to disguise other dimensions

it sounds all really unbelievable because the game was produced by imagination... really most people ponder over this

now TLOTR may be a film but i have a feelin the way our paths are destined is to express these insights to other realities through any method, or drawn complexely in our minds, be it a game or a film, any interpretation from the mind would do

seriously i believe in this stuff
BTW im not paranoid most kids over-estiamte the word

paraniod = overly-obsessed with something, such as dedicating half my life to it...not true
its a strong word kids tend to use without thinking much

goodnight -and if you dont belive in spirits dont believe in being alive, for i have actually had my future read by this enchanted gem, every question i ask it actually happened the next day, as if psychically

  • 04.21.2004 2:38 PM PDT
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Maybe god created the Amino Acids and all the other stuff you were talking about. It will all answer the same thing. Where life comes from. But of course we will NEVER KNOW THE BEGINNING OF LIFE, EVER. We never have gotten close to the knowing life's existence. We are not nearly intellegent enough to even compete with the existence of life.

Anyway about the Forerunners. One thing is for sure. The forerunners would have to be extremely intellegent to create an ENOURMOUS ring in space, just enough distance from a huge gas giant to keep itself in orbit, and a postion close enough to the sun to create an artificial atmosphere, a CONTROLLED atmosphere, to where photosynthesis could occur with the plants on Halo, also to create normal weather patterns to grow plants, rain, snow, Dry Climates, Oceans, Lightning and numerous more weather patterns.

So My Hypothesis is that the forerunners were more intellegent than covy profits, (actually more intellegent than any creature in Halo) and would relatively know the surroundings. (they would have to know about the area they positioned Halo, they just didn't "put" it there. They would also have to own metal...after all the exostructure of Halo Is some type of steel or metal. Look at the pieces of it when it Explodes in Halo.

Also Halo must rotate on some type of axis, after all it has day and night. Thats all for now, see ya!

  • 04.21.2004 2:39 PM PDT
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ok i have to go talk to you all later.

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I find there is no need to bring this man's family into this discussion.

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Posted by: Kalisoldier
im sorry i side tracked a little on my last post .... I dont belive you have a daughter and if you do God help her. Because your views of we dont need god god means nothing its all science those veiws will bring down our society.



Listen you little -blam!- puke, My daughter doesn't need you to wish God's help on her, nor for you to even acknowledge her. If you believe in God so much go read Mark 16:18 and take the poison challenge. Untill you do that shut your pie hole, and don't mention my daughter again.

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God i ask that you look over Alexis through out her life on this Earth and I ask that you guide her in the direction of happiness and please watch over her in her time of need for the world can be unexplainable at times and during those times we look to you for guidence bless her and her family through the good and the bad and continue to bless this great nation Amen.

  • 04.21.2004 2:46 PM PDT
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This is funny. Anybody who wants lessons on how to make themselves look stupid, find this kid.

  • 04.21.2004 2:48 PM PDT
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Lets pray about Halo 2 too.

  • 04.21.2004 2:49 PM PDT
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Posted by: g0dfath3r24
Lets pray about Halo 2 too.



Yes. Let's pray to the Bungie god's for a great game lol.

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This is just nuts. If I hear one more person talk about how "they" can't prove that god doesn't exist I'm going to snap. It's not up to people to prove that God doesn't exist, you have to prove that he does exist. You can't just say 2+2=4 until someone disproves it, you have to prove that 2+2=4.

Extrordinary claims require extrordinary evidence, and you don't have any. In any case how do you expect anybody to disprove God? how can you disprove something that is nothing but a belief? In order to consider a theory as verified fact, there have to be facts to prove it, and there has to be a plausible situation in which a body of evidence would be able to disprove that theory. It's like saying I've got cheque for a million dollars in my hand, but my hand is glued shut so you can't see it. So because I can't show you it's not there, you can't prove it isn't, so it must be. Doesn't make much sense does it?

In two thousand years you'll find books on christianity in the mythology section of the library. Yesterdays religion is todays mythology, and todays cult is tomorows religion. It's just a tool to control large populations, to make them conform. In science if you have a theory that is different from the currently accepted one, and you can offer mathematical proof, then that's the new theory. If you tried to do the same thing with a religion, you're just as likely to start a war or get yourself killed. Which enterprise sounds like the more rational approach to solving lifes mysteries?

  • 04.21.2004 2:59 PM PDT
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Kalisoldier I believe one of the commandments is "Love thai Neighbour", and Bring the Noise is your neighbour so shut your mouth and stop trying to piss him off.

[Edited on 4/21/2004 3:02:53 PM]

  • 04.21.2004 3:00 PM PDT

With B.B. gone, the passion of Bungie.net has lessened.

Kalisoldier: Dude your a little crazy if u dont mind me saying its a videogame if you ask me you posted that thread because your an atheist and you want to provide proof that there is no god and thats your agenda and to that i reply how was that first rock made how was that water made HOW was anything ever made with out a creator so take your lame atheist point of view somwhere else .

Don't EVER post -blam!- like that again. Its incredibly self-centered, arrogant, and ignorant! I'm an atheist, and what you say offends me. Do not assume that your point of view is right. NOTHING has been proven, and probably never will be. I don't believe in anything until I have proof. PROOF, not evidence. And for pity's sake, USE PUNCTUATION!

  • 04.21.2004 3:02 PM PDT
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And thus we see how sad some peoples lives are, that they carry on over a subject as rediculous as this. Can't anyone find anything productive to do?

  • 04.21.2004 3:03 PM PDT
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"He takes the shot...and it's good!" Another cheap shot at Kalisoldier lol.

  • 04.21.2004 3:04 PM PDT
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You know, maybe youre all right! Have you ever tried to launch your car with piles grenades dropped by marines you killed? Have you ever tried to shoot someone in the face with an ak-47 at point blank range, and have them survive? Did you ever notice that every human bleeds in near identical patterns chosen on random? Have you ever jumped off a cliff, but rolled off the side of a boulder so that you could survive without a single scratch? Have you fought along side the UN to kill off an alliance of alien races? How about watching an entire planet get melted into a nice shiney ball? Have you studied the sociologic patterns of the covenant? Studied their culture? Their strategies? Have you heard that the Humans are going to have a flourishing interstellar empire by the mid\late 2400s?

Yeah. Yeah! You guys are genius! Logic can, in fact solve everything! Yay! And youve proved that both creationist and forerunner-ist theories are wrong! Thank you. We now see the light. We can now look at the wonders before us and say, 'hey guys! Im not forerunner!!'

To put all that in a nutshell- people, So what if a story line is really descriptive. If it elaborates on stuff that most story lines dont bother. You have got to sit back, relax, and just say- wow, the writers did a good job, that was a nice convincing story line. not sit up, tense your muscles and say, Bungie has single handedly interpretted the Universe's history and future! Just... my god... calm- for.... okay... People like you (who ever makes these sort of forum posts) upset people like everyother friggin person on the face of the earth (who arent forerunner, may I add)

By the way- Im creationist.

  • 04.21.2004 3:08 PM PDT
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im not gonna pretend that i spent time reading all the specifics, but for the most part im agreeing with serpx on this one.

as for all the other stuff about humans being the forerunners--interesting, but it doesnt really make much sense. im mean--why would the race that blew up halo to stop the annihilation of setient life go back and make more species killers? just doesnt make sense, even in a video game. and time travels a cool theory, but who would send a weapon that can kill your entire race BACK into your past?

  • 04.21.2004 3:11 PM PDT
Subject: Oblivious
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Here's to Bungie! The only people that can make us somehow argue about religion... in a videogame that has to do with Humans killing aliens! *raises glass*

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  • 04.21.2004 3:12 PM PDT
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Some people don't belive in god. And Some people do belive in god.
Just shut up and get on with your lives.
(O_o) . o O (Hey, wait a second... These forums are for Bungie, what the -blam!- happened?)
And, being the good christian i am, athiests should be very offended, Shai. Now, bow your heads in shame and go away.

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I SAID BOW THEM!

  • 04.21.2004 3:15 PM PDT