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Posted by: Frosh_117
You want -blam!-ing third grade? Listen to yourself! You use age as an excuse for wisdom, and it's a bunch of bull! Not only is age not prerequisite for wisdom, but it often doesn't change a thing. Your religiocentric, irritating, absolutist philosophy is full of -blam!- (w/ a capital "S"!). Science is not anti-god, it is pro-fact. Religion is fine, it was originally created when mankind was EVOLVING and needed something to explain the world so that he could sleep at night. Faith in a higher deity is perfectly justifiable; but when a religious organization has so brainwashed the participants that they cannot see logic, it has gone too far.

can we please try to keep the discussion on topic-- Halo?
Thanks
-Aeoin



Hey captain thought process, why don't you read all the post before you make yourself look dumb. It was a joke, I was making fun of somebody else. I'm not 18, the LoL should have given it away. Not to mention the bad grammar.

  • 04.21.2004 8:22 PM PDT
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good to know some things never change in internet forums. . . there's at least one religious argument per month.

It warms mi' heart

  • 04.21.2004 8:25 PM PDT
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Posted by: Scipio
good to know some things never change in internet forums. . . there's at least one religious argument per month.

It warms mi' heart



LoL, yeah no doubt.

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Posted by: Scipio
good to know some things never change in internet forums. . . there's at least one religious argument per month.

It warms mi' heart

  • 04.21.2004 8:27 PM PDT
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OFF TOPIC

This is very intelligent probably true (I believe it), But there are some scientists who question the big bang theory. I don't know why since we can clearly see galaxies moving apart, and that the universe is constantly expanding.

ON TOPIC
Like other people said Halo is NOT REAL, Science Fiction. Even though its based on reality, its still science fiction.

  • 04.21.2004 8:32 PM PDT

WoG

"...have a killatalor!"
ROMANS 1:18

This country was founded on religious freedom, not just christianity. And is one of the most corrupt, power driven, crime ridden, countries in the world. To say that without christianity there would be no morals is ignorant. I'm not catholic, yet you don't see me getting smashed and beating my wife just to confess my sins on sunday. You also don't see me molesting children.

The ten commandments were taken out of courtrooms all over america.
Prayer has be deemed a suspendable offense inside the walls of schools.
Intrest groups are trying to legalize same-sex marriages.

Regardless of what our country was founded on, it's pretty clear those foundations are being torn apart these days.

Over time, and history the great empires of the earth have followed certain patterns. Ascention, "golden age", and decension. One aspect can be linked to all down-falls of major world powers- the destruction of societal order and the family structure. Is that what's happening to America? Time will tell.

One thing I know for sure, though, and that is:

God's plan, (or his will) will happen, on his terms.

And to try to get back to the point, evolution is wrong. What hope do we have if evolution is true? We live, die, and that's it? What's the point?

I know I am going to heaven- because I trust in Jesus, believe he died to take the punishment of my sins, and accept the gift of heaven and eternal life. I have so much to live for, so much hope, so much joy in my life because of it.

Thanks for hearing me out.

  • 04.21.2004 8:35 PM PDT

who gives a crap u guys are so freking nerdy i cant believe it the games a game i read the books but i didnt come up with dumbass reasons for it and screw u guys darwin is -blam!- its all bout jesus

  • 04.21.2004 8:35 PM PDT
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Posted by: mrnobodywtb
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This is very intelligent probably true (I believe it), But there are some scientists who question the big bang theory. I don't know why since we can clearly see galaxies moving apart, and that the universe is constantly expanding.



Why do people post nonsense like this? .15%, yes that is a decimal .15% of all professional scientist question the big bang theory. Do some research before you post nonsense like this.

  • 04.21.2004 8:40 PM PDT

y dont u stop critisizing u little whore "bring the noise" get some orinigle thoughts

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Posted by: WRATHofGOD18
This country was founded on religious freedom, not just christianity. And is one of the most corrupt, power driven, crime ridden, countries in the world. To say that without christianity there would be no morals is ignorant. I'm not catholic, yet you don't see me getting smashed and beating my wife just to confess my sins on sunday. You also don't see me molesting children.

The ten commandments were taken out of courtrooms all over america.
Prayer has be deemed a suspendable offense inside the walls of schools.
Intrest groups are trying to legalize same-sex marriages.

Regardless of what our country was founded on, it's pretty clear those foundations are being torn apart these days.

Over time, and history the great empires of the earth have followed certain patterns. Ascention, "golden age", and decension. One aspect can be linked to all down-falls of major world powers- the destruction of societal order and the family structure. Is that what's happening to America? Time will tell.

One thing I know for sure, though, and that is:

God's plan, (or his will) will happen, on his terms.

And to try to get back to the point, evolution is wrong. What hope do we have if evolution is true? We live, die, and that's it? What's the point?

I know I am going to heaven- because I trust in Jesus, believe he died to take the punishment of my sins, and accept the gift of heaven and eternal life. I have so much to live for, so much hope, so much joy in my life because of it.

Thanks for hearing me out.



First those intrest groups would be -blam!- people trying to get married. You make it seem like it's a big bussiness thing. Second, our constitution says that all men are created equal, that includes -blam!- people. Third, in our own pledge of alligiance it states "For liberty and justice for all" that would include -blam!- people.


Evolution is wrong? Would you like to submitt any proof? Or are you just blindly saying that because you've done no research on the matter? Get real, you and your invisible friend have a good time together.

  • 04.21.2004 8:45 PM PDT
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......... Hey that was really good.. I HAVEN"T SLEPT THAT WELL IN AGES!

for lords sake! the forerunners could be humans he they could be your mamma for all you know!

look in halo that god dam annoying flying blue ball thinks your some one else nether human or covenent... so maybe the fore runner coulld be a race that the humans decended from but were cyberneticly advanced... i'm just babbiling at the moment because we will not know till Bungie decides when to tell.....
think about it bungie doesn't need to tell us about the forerunners yet. they could be saveing it for halo 3 or 4 or 10 (HEY Final fanatsy has made that many) you never know.

Thank you for reading.
hope to read all your insults soon

.. NoeX ..
.. The Man ..

  • 04.21.2004 8:46 PM PDT
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Posted by: oneindustriesusa
y dont u stop critisizing u little whore "bring the noise" get some orinigle thoughts



Why don't you learn how to spell original? I'm stating facts, nothing more. Nothing less.

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Why do people post nonsense like this? .15%, yes that is a decimal .15% of all professional scientist question the big bang theory. Do some research before you post nonsense like this.

Whered you get the information that .15%Y of scientists question it? if you think your all knowing then why not post your source, but then again you musn't of had that much time to research that

  • 04.21.2004 8:55 PM PDT
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Why don't we all just shut the hell up about whether or not the forrunners are human or not. You can argue to your parents that jellitin cannot be made of cow bones cuz bones are hard and jello isn't, but you parents will always win, well, mine will. So lets wait a little bit, hope Bungie gives us some more kickass pictures to gaze and drool at, and argue about this after Halo 2 comes out-that is if anyone in their right mind would rather argue than play the greatest game still in making.

[Edited on 4/21/2004 9:01:16 PM]

  • 04.21.2004 8:58 PM PDT
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Why don't you learn how to spell original? I'm stating facts, nothing more. Nothing less.

I hate people who try to act better because they care about spelling. Were not in school, \/\/3 (4/\/ 59311 57UFF )-(0\/\/3\/3|2 \/\/4/\/7!

  • 04.21.2004 9:00 PM PDT
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Why don't we all just shut the hell up about whether or not the forrunners are human or not. You can argue to your parents that jellitin cannot be made of cow bones cuz bones are hard and jello isn't, but you parents will always win, well, mine will. So lets wait a little bit, hope Bungie gives us some more kickass pictures to gaze and drool at, and argue about this after Halo 2 comes out-that is if anyone in their right mind would rather argue than play the greatest game still in making.


Well Said, goodbye

  • 04.21.2004 9:02 PM PDT
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Damn straight, school is -blam!-, this isn't. If you wanna go to school and screw around with your locker than you do that. Here, all i care about is halo 2, and the porno i'm looking at on the other page of pamela anderson:)

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I think (this is purely my opinion) that the Forerunners could be humans. On The Maw, one of the cutscenes shows 343-Guilty Spark in the reactor room and it looks like he/it is looking at some of the records or data that is in the Pillar of Autumn’s computer data base and he/it said something to the effect of, “You can’t imagine how exiting this is; to have a record of all of our lost times.” To me at least, this shows that the Forerunners could very well be humans. If so, consider this: when Halo takes place, the human race is (was) spread out over many, many galaxies and planets. Sometime towards the beginning of space travel technology, there could have been a group of humans who just took a ship and left. And maybe they developed technologies and societies completely apart from the rest of humanity. Just a thought… knowing me, I’m probably wrong, but we won’t know until Halo 2. Even then we may not know… (Hey this is weird, a post that actually relates to the subject!)

Oh, and "Bring the Noise", you can go ahead and bring the insults. What I' said is not fact, it is my opinion, I have no proof. So far, you have criticized most people who have stated their opinion. You said you are 22, so you older than me, probably a lot smarter and more intelligent too. So why do you even bother continuing this thread? People can criticize my beliefs all they want, It's not going to change my mind. The same is probably true for you too, so why continue? By the way, if anyone finds any spelling mistakes go ahead and point them out. If I do mess up on spelling, everything else I said must be wrong too. (<that would be sarcasm)

  • 04.21.2004 9:09 PM PDT
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Posted by: mrnobodywtb
Why do people post nonsense like this? .15%, yes that is a decimal .15% of all professional scientist question the big bang theory. Do some research before you post nonsense like this.

Whered you get the information that .15%Y of scientists question it? if you think your all knowing then why not post your source, but then again you musn't of had that much time to research that



You can start here clicky

  • 04.21.2004 9:09 PM PDT

With B.B. gone, the passion of Bungie.net has lessened.

"The universe will not end with a bang, but with a whimper."

Just thought I should point out that that might be the reason why some scientists disagree with the Big Bang theory (they may agree that it started the universe, but they don't think it it will happen again). Some might find it useful. I'm not saying the Big Bang is right or wrong, however.

Anyhow, I also read earlier that someone said that Frankie said Halo 2 will disprove/prove the existence of God. He didn't say that. He said it would be like doing that, meaning Halo 2 will be ground-breaking.

No offense intended to anyone (I say that a lot... maybe I should just put it in my sig...).

  • 04.21.2004 9:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: SQ97
I think (this is purely my opinion) that the Forerunners could be humans. On The Maw, one of the cutscenes shows 343-Guilty Spark in the reactor room and it looks like he/it is looking at some of the records or data that is in the Pillar of Autumn’s computer data base and he/it said something to the effect of, “You can’t imagine how exiting this is; to have a record of all of our lost times.” To me at least, this shows that the Forerunners could very well be humans. If so, consider this: when Halo takes place, the human race is (was) spread out over many, many galaxies and planets. Sometime towards the beginning of space travel technology, there could have been a group of humans who just took a ship and left. And maybe they developed technologies and societies completely apart from the rest of humanity. Just a thought… knowing me, I’m probably wrong, but we won’t know until Halo 2. Even then we may not know… (Hey this is weird, a post that actually relates to the subject!)

Oh, and "Bring the Noise", you can go ahead and bring the insults. What I' said is not fact, it is my opinion, I have no proof. So far, you have criticized most people who have stated their opinion. You said you are 22, so you older than me, probably a lot smarter and more intelligent too. So why do you even bother continuing this thread? People can criticize my beliefs all they want, It's not going to change my mind. The same is probably true for you too, so why continue? By the way, if anyone finds any spelling mistakes go ahead and point them out. If I do mess up on spelling, everything else I said must be wrong too. (<that would be sarcasm)



Actually, I came in this thread to give my opinion on the forerunners. Due to the first post an apparently misinformed and religious kid started spouting off nonsense about how evolution is a joke. Well I shut him up eventually, ever since it's been one after another. Perhaps before you say that I am doing the attacking you should go back and read all of the post. About the spelling thing, I've had people call me ignorant without even being able to spell it correctly. Correct this is not school, but we learn how to spell, and use grammar correctly so we can communicate. It makes things so much easier to read and understand if you use some sort of grammar. However don't insult my intellegence if you can't spell, it makes you look stupid. Saying evolution is wrong isn't an opinion, it's blatenly false. Evolution happens everyday wether you like it or not. When you say something false, I will let you know.

  • 04.21.2004 9:17 PM PDT
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Posted by: Shai Hulud
"The universe will not end with a bang, but with a whimper."

Just thought I should point out that that might be the reason why some scientists disagree with the Big Bang theory (they may agree that it started the universe, but they don't think it it will happen again). Some might find it useful. I'm not saying the Big Bang is right or wrong, however.

Anyhow, I also read earlier that someone said that Frankie said Halo 2 will disprove/prove the existence of God. He didn't say that. He said it would be like doing that, meaning Halo 2 will be ground-breaking.

No offense intended to anyone (I say that a lot... maybe I should just put it in my sig...).



Believe me Shai, you are not offending anybody lol.

  • 04.21.2004 9:18 PM PDT

With B.B. gone, the passion of Bungie.net has lessened.

Perhaps I'm not offending anyone. I just like to get the point across that if I do, I didn't mean to. I merely don't like making enemies.... especially enemies I've never even met. I'm just cautious.

And what you said about spelling is true, and everyone should learn how to spell most things correctly, in time... But in this day, age, and society, is it really that amazing that many can't spell some things? I don't think it matters that much (unless its an insult they're trying to throw at someone, like people have done to you), as long as the readers know what they're reffering to.

But grammar DOES matter, since posts can get confusing when you don't use it. It leaves the reader in a "What the hell did you just say?" state of mind...

Back on topic, the Forerunner will be explained in due time, so lets be patient. But since speculation is fun, we should continue it... just not as hatefully as this.

Man, those Forerunner can sure build mighty cool looking structures, machines, and rings, though... Gotta love the doors, as well.

  • 04.21.2004 9:32 PM PDT
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Wow.

You know, Bungie wants us to all be friends -- we don't need any enemies. Don't bash on someone because of an opinion, respect their thought, if all possible. Post your own thought of you don't agree on one and keep it positive.

If you can't stop bashing, at least kill the phrases that are completely negative, and could easily start fights.

We can go easy with this if we are to argue about all of these scientifically and religious theories on regard to the forerunner, or not (hopefully, most of them are, and will continue to have a relationship with the forerunner). You guys are incredibly smart, and are most likely bringing up tons, and tons, of new speculations and theories.

Yes, Halo is a game. But it has a storyline. This storyline most likely got its juice from other references, and it's also incredibly realistic in different aspects. We all know Halo isn't real, but it's five-hundred years in the future. You're going to see stuff that are not real. But, we should speculate for fun. Let's not be too serious with this -- for the sakes of the community.

We have a VERY good ordeal occuring right now, it would be a shame to have this thread closed because of a few words that have spreaded throughout. This has certinally motivated me to start on a large project that'll benefit you all. You'll see what I'm talking about upon your future. ;]

  • 04.21.2004 9:43 PM PDT
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Regarding "Bring the Noise",

Yeah, I read most of that conversation with Kalisoldier. I see what you mean. You are right that grammar makes it so much easier.
What you said about evolution is your opinion. True, some of it can be supported by facts, but the truth is that most of the things in the world cannot be completely proven true or false. No one was there to see the Big Bang so how do we know it happened? Of course, the same could be said about creationism. No one was there to see it. 'Course, then we get into the whole discussion asking how can we prove anything (way off topic). I think that almost anything posted on any forum is going to be opinion (unless it's Frankie telling us something new about Halo 2). What I meant by my previous post was that this thread is not really getting anywhere so why keep it going? Maybe Bungie will have closed it by tomorrow (I can hope, can't I?).

Word of advice: If you are the smartest person in this thread (which may be the case),don't try to argue with fools, they're not going to listen to reason. Also they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Oh, and "Bring the Noise" is a pretty friggin cool name.

  • 04.21.2004 9:49 PM PDT