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Subject: Forerunners CANNOT be Humans.
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Being the first person to reply in many days, I'm thanking Serpx right now majorly because i'm doing a research paper on human evolution and got a deal of information from the stuff serpx wrote down. Nobody hate here.
The only reason you people keep yellin at Serpx is because you people obtain human simplisites--believing that videogames take place in their own universes. Congratulations morons. IT TAKES PLACE IN THE FUTURE OF EARTH. All the past events are still the same--in the developer commentary, Bungie staff said they want battle damage to be there from 100s of years ago.there year wars on earth 100s of years ago- how coincidental. Once again, IT TAKES PLACE IN THE FUTURE OF EARTH. All the past events of Earth are still the same. Thus, humans were created in the same in both real life and in Halo 2. Thus, HUMANS are NOT forerunners.

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  • 05.01.2004 10:04 PM PDT
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GT: Greg Is So Hot

"We" is a very broad scope.

Im forerunner.

=P

  • 05.01.2004 10:06 PM PDT
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What if the forerunner are the humans, but they were so advanced that they invented time travel to go back and warn the Human race of the Covanent. Could be like a few people left in the world at one point who have run to the far reaches of the world, and if they time travel, they will still be lost from earth. This way they set up artifacts around the universe. The covanent know about this and thats why they are going to look for the artifacts and kill the humans faster so that they dont invent time travel. Well you kinda get the point.

  • 05.01.2004 10:10 PM PDT
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If the the forerunners were human then why would the covenent be killing the humans because the forerunners are like gods to the covenent. So the humans cannot possibly be the forerunners unless bungie has a big suprise in store down the road. ( helps to read halo books.)

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  • 05.01.2004 10:24 PM PDT
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that's right because I'm a forerunner and I'm bnot a human so bleh....though its fun to wonder...sometimes I wonder why I made all those things in space and just left them out there...the reason is BECAUSE FORERUNNERS (we) are sick sadistic aliens who leave rings, guns, and stuff out so we can watch other races fight each other (that's what 343 guilty spark and his crew double as, they're camera men and guilty spark is the director )and kill each other. we made the flood because the covenent were getting on to us and our devious plot...now if it weren't for those meddling humans...

  • 05.01.2004 11:02 PM PDT
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ur a *@#$ halos a game not a history lesson

  • 05.01.2004 11:15 PM PDT
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my post was not history...its logic. hmph

  • 05.02.2004 12:02 AM PDT
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besides I don't see anybody ever think of any dark ideas for halo...I hope they come out with some sort twist like that

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I decided to not comment on this thread because I wanted to avoid unnecessary flaming, since half of the people here don't listen to reason anyway... but since it's cooled down somewhat, I'll give my insignificant thoughts. Theories of all kinds aside, I believe that the forerunners are not human because they simply didn't exist in our timeframe. They still exist, in my opinion, but not in this galaxy. They either are in another dimension, time, or they are in another galaxy. No matter your theoretical persuasion, we all agree that human civilization began roughly 4-6 thousand years ago. The forerunners have been absent for at least 40 times that long. It is interesting to note, however, that despite the installation's massive size, it seems to be designed for beings of comparable size to humanity and covenant races. Many have speculated that this denotes the humans as forerunners, yet it proves nothing, since the covenant are of comparable size as well. The other fact about 343 guilty spark calling the Master Chief "Reclaimer" doesn't prove anything, since he makes a clear distinction between human, covenant, and the forerunner. (He tells you "stop being human" when you shoot him.) This aside, what clues do we have as to the forerunner's existence and physical appearance? The only clue we really have is in 343 guilty spark. Granted, he's invincible, and as good a choice for a body as any A.I. would want, but why have one at all? Why couldn't he just be a part of halo's computer systems and run the menial tasks he was supposed to, as durandal, tycho, and leela did aboard the marathon? This denotes that he was meant for a function outside of Halo. What that would be, I'm not sure, but a thought occurred to me that he was meant to alert the forerunner should the flood break out of their containment again. In that case, I don't think Guilty Spark will be alone when he returns...

  • 05.02.2004 12:05 AM PDT
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First I would like to state that i know this is just a game.

It's highly possible that if the lastest theories are correct (Halo went off once before) then your theory would be correct bacause Halo's firing would have most like just flat out demolished "all sentient life capible of sustaining the Flood." Possibly the Forerunners (early humans) were capable of creating something that didnt completely destroy the planets (turning them into what they were before being inhabited by the race) just what lived on them, and they knew that eventually the human race would follow those same footsteps of evolution. Henceforth, humanity could begin again after the Halo firing. Now with "humanity" back we most likely wouldnt remember what took place because the Earth would have returned to the state at witch it was created and followed the same evolution it did back during the "Big Bang" creating a habitable place to live once again.

One of my personal theories plays into effect here. For those of you who have read the books the Spartans seem to have an odd understanding of Forerunner and Covanent technology. I feel that if the Forerunners ARE early humans then we would have thought alike. Languages and etc. would be similar (obvious because Halo was similar to Earth in that they seem to have had required the same ecosystem we have and need, also because Forerunner artifacts seem to housed in human population centers). As for the Spartans knowing what buttons to push, this comes from a somewhat "inherited" understanding of Forerunner technology. That is explained by the fact that we would be a similar set of races.

In short, its highly possible that the Forerunners and the human race are so alike or that the human race IS Forerunner, that we thought alike. It's kinda like when you and your sibling (or girlfreind, best freind, etc.) get that really kool l337 idea at the same time. Well its like that but over a massive time span and 2 uber similar races.

When 343 calls the MC "Reclaimer" i think that he is refering to someone of similar "design" of the MC. We know the Forerunner knew how to play with time because of the artifact in First Strike bent time. Maybe the Forerunner knew that they would mostly wiped out and figured that what ever followed in their footsteps would have the same fate as them (history repeats itself). So to save the next race they came up with the artifacts to bend time so that when whoever (the humans) do finally get to Halo they dont have the same problem they did. Thus, saving our butts from the Flood. However, i think they didn't count on the Covanent being around to kick us bad. (oooo maybe the Covanent are a sort of biproduct that came about after the Forerunner or like they came from the Forerunner. Maybe the Covanent are like some sick twisted experament like the Flood are to the Forerunner and the Covies are like "BLAH WE HATE YOU -LASH OUT- WERE GUNNA LIKE TAKE OUT THE RACE THATS JUST LIKE YOU." Or they found a way to get out of another group of Halos they were on to be studied and didnt know the Forerunners are gone and see the humans and are like "BLAH WE HATE YOU -LASH OUT- WERE GUNNA LIKE TAKE YOU OUT NOW YOU -BLAM FORERUNNER LOSERS. THATS THE LAST TIME YOU MEST WITH US AGAIN-BLAH!!!111!!1"). ok so maybe not that but it was still fun.

I dont know but thats my 2 cents i think thats kinda the basic concept behind it. I like the farfetched ideas theyre fun. BTW, i DO know that its just a game.

See ya at the "playground"

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  • 05.02.2004 12:48 AM PDT
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I Agree with you GunnySarge

  • 05.02.2004 1:23 AM PDT
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Posted by: meathead
I Agree with you GunnySarge
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I feel bad for you.

  • 05.02.2004 1:55 AM PDT
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Why?

  • 05.02.2004 1:57 AM PDT
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Because he's wrong.

  • 05.02.2004 1:59 AM PDT
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How is he wrong?

  • 05.02.2004 2:00 AM PDT
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Because he is not right. So the opposite of right is wrong.

  • 05.02.2004 2:01 AM PDT
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What is your evidence that he is wrong, tell me.

  • 05.02.2004 2:04 AM PDT
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I could explain it to you, but you won't understand and it's late.

  • 05.02.2004 2:10 AM PDT
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eh, good point.

  • 05.02.2004 2:14 AM PDT