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Subject: Covenant Civil War?
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I think that da Covenant will have a civil war. Look at da blood color. Hunters and Jackals have orange blood. Elites and Grunts have different color. Maybe the Jackals and Hunters r from the same planet. Like Humans and Dogs, we both have the same color of blood.
The might ally with eachother such as Hunters and Jackals against the elites against the grunts.

  • 06.23.2004 3:53 AM PDT
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Hm, different Blood Colors... I´ve never thought about that!! Not bad!

  • 06.23.2004 3:55 AM PDT
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if there was a civil war then the sides would be:
Brutes, prophets, grunts and jackels
vs
elites and hunters

  • 06.23.2004 3:55 AM PDT
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Heres a little list of who hates who and why in the covenant castes, feel free to save this for future referances.

Prophets
Likes:
Brutes, thinks they are the perfect instrument. see first strike pg 339
And all the others too, they have no major enimies.
Dislikes:
No-one as such

Engineers
They seem to be in a trance and do their job they are not enemies with anyone, not even humans.
To make this easier assume that no covenant dislike the engineers.

Elites
Likes:
Hunters, due to a neutral respect between the two races, stated in the strategy guide
Prophets, due to the fact that out of all the covenant castes they are the most fanatically devoted to the religion and thus the prophets themselves.
Dislikes:
Brutes, due to the fact they are sharing their space as one of the upper castes. not happy about prophets new found favour towards them. they are interfering with their pride and there is mutual hatred between the two castes.
Grunts, see them as inferior cannon fodder and use them as such. Think nothing of them.
Jackals, same as Grunts. In an Elites eyes they are all equally pathetic. it states on the Elite figure that they hold the lower classes in equal contempt to the humans

Brutes
Likes: The Prophets whom they obey without question and seem to hold in equal awe as the Elites do.
Dislikes:
Probably, though no proof as such, every single other Covenant caste.
Elites due to a mutual hatred and each trying to become the higher caste and gain the favor of the Prophets.

Hunters
Likes: Elites due to their mutual respect (but this could be wrong as the elites plasma bombardment was what forced them into the covenant collective) but it seems that hunters only take commands off of elites.
Dislikes: Grunts and Jackals. sees them as a lower caste and will not think twice about walking over them and killing them if in the way. sees them as inferior beings. see fall of reach.

Jackals
Likes: No-one really but will take commands from Elites
Dislikes: Hunters because of their minimal concern for their kind but especially hate Grunts. in the caste system, jackals are equal to grunts, a lot like elites are to brutes. and like the brutes and elites this causes a lot of mutual hatred between the two. The Jackals see themselves as above the Grunts so pick on them and make brutal attacks to maintain above them. they seem to enjoy killing/maiming Grunts as in the flood Yayap thinks of the horrible punishment of being given to the Jackals. so such acts must occur within the society.

Grunts
Likes: No-one at all
Dislikes:
Hunters due to thier non-caring treatment of the Grunts and seeing them as pest like creatures.
Jackals because of their foul treatment of Grunts to maintain a sense of superiority
Elites for using them as cannon fodder, sending them on suicide missions, thinking of them in equal contempt to humans. It's quite clear in the flood that Grunts hate Elites. they wanted zamamee to die when he was injured on PoA

New mystery caste - lets find out :)

People on this Thread after reading this will find that so many possibilities are possible for certain groups of allies in a covenant civil war.

  • 06.23.2004 3:56 AM PDT
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who knows what the sides would really be if there was a covie civil war, maybe the grunts would be victorious :)

  • 06.23.2004 3:58 AM PDT
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Hmmm.
Maybe the flood are with the brutes and prophets.
Blood Colors...

  • 06.23.2004 3:58 AM PDT
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Posted by: Melee da Grunt
Hmmm.
Maybe the flood are with the brutes and prophets.
Blood Colors...


Thats unlikely, the Flood convert, consume and kill all. they wouldn't ally with anyone
sorry to put you down but the very idea is ridiculous

  • 06.23.2004 3:59 AM PDT
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Yes, oddly, the Elites have given the Grunts just what they need to take the Elites down- Plasma Pistols! There's about ten Grunts to every one Elite, if not more. A few overcharge blasts and a lot of piddly fire and the Elite is going down.

That is... assuming the Grunts can overcome their cowardice for a moment.

  • 06.23.2004 4:00 AM PDT
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the flood don't see sides they only see biomass

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I know speculation.

Maybe there is the forerunners who act like Gods to the prophets.
The prophets then carry out their will.

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maybe the forerunners left behind a mass of high tech weapons on earth and the covie's are driven back by waves of humans with kick ass forerunner weapons. Then covie's could then blame each other and start fighting each other

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Covies are using kickass forerunner weapons. Well maybe pistols and snipers are kickass forerunner weapons...

  • 06.23.2004 4:07 AM PDT
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The Jackals dislike the grunts and the Elites dislike the Prophets (a reply to Zamamee's post).

  • 06.23.2004 5:20 AM PDT
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jackals have purple blood

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the hunters are the only ones with orange blood, the elites and jackals have purple, and the grunts have some kinda light shade of blue.

  • 06.23.2004 5:25 AM PDT
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Hunters also have flood colord blood. If you shoot them with a AR im not positive you have to hit them in the orange spot but im pretty sure and the bullets make the blood splatter on the wall its flood colord.

  • 06.23.2004 5:38 AM PDT
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Posted by:The Jackals dislike the grunts and the Elites dislike the Prophets (a reply to Zamamee's post).

I did say the Jackals dislike the Grunts as for the Elites and Prophets I'm not too sure.
Yes there is a possiblility of dislike but due to their fanatical religion and the Prophets connection to it they have a lot of respect for it. In the Flood in the introduction it hints towards the fact that a VERY high ranked elite could actually out rank a minor prophet.
I think the Elites are more annoyed with the Brutes for taking their personal space rather than the actual Prophets themselves but the Elites could dislike them but due to thier mutial need for one another (at this moment) put it aside.

[Edited on 6/23/2004 6:26:49 AM]

  • 06.23.2004 6:26 AM PDT