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Subject: Weapon category missing? What about a Heavy Machine Gun?
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I know its not going to happen, but I was thinking that the one type of typical FPS weapon the HALO universe is missing is a HMG.
I imagine it like a big AR, but more accurate at range, more powerful rounds, and slightly slower firing rate. A belt fed weapon with 100 rnds. per belt, a long reload time and a speed\movement penalty, also you couldnt carry any other weapons mabey. When you crouch, you could deploy a bipod slung under the barrel, giving you more accuracy and contoll.
It would be great for getting a vantage on a base or group of enimies and suppressing them while your MP teammates move in to flank. Imagine getting on the ridge trails on blood gultch and peppering any opponent that leaves thier base, or going all out Rambo style down tight corridors. I know it doesnt quite fit in with the weapons of HALO, but I still think it would be awsome for that total badass feel.

What kind of HMG would you like to see?

  • 06.23.2004 10:36 AM PDT
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I guess Im the only one....

  • 06.23.2004 11:07 AM PDT
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That would kind of throw the balance of the game off, walking around with a huge death cannon like that.

  • 06.23.2004 11:08 AM PDT
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are you talking about the turret?

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That is why you would have to have balances, like not being able to carry other weapons, move slower, ect. Also you could tweak it so you would be less accurate if not crouching, of if you were moving and firing at the same time. Like say you were side strafing and blazing full auto, you would be about as much of a threat as a AR from long range, but if you have controlled bursts ( albiet longer that you do with the AR ) and are still, you can put some hurt down. Sumthin like that.

  • 06.23.2004 11:18 AM PDT
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And here I thought I was the only one thinking of a HMG! I actualy created one that sounds a lot like your idea. The M45 HMG: 100 round ammo bucket, ya know a little bucket with the ammo belt in it. It resembles a modern day M60 crossed with a WW2 BAR. I love that gun!

  • 06.23.2004 1:09 PM PDT
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i'd like something like the M249 SAW (squad automatic weapon) or M60.

  • 06.23.2004 1:11 PM PDT
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i kind of agree buit not too big

halo's more a fast game but a big gun would be cool for defense or something

  • 06.23.2004 1:11 PM PDT
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Actually chain fed guns are easy to reload. Like the Mg 42. Just open up a panel on top. Stick one bullet in. Close the panel and pull the hammer back

  • 06.23.2004 1:12 PM PDT
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is a minigun considered a HMG? if it is, i wouldnt wanna see that. its such a cheap lamo weapon in timesplitters..

  • 06.23.2004 1:12 PM PDT
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uh, yeah, like soviet just said, the minigun is a heavy machine gun. there is no move slower with it, its a you cant move at all weapon. but then you also get 3rd person view, so you can see a bit more. and unlimited ammo. its a heavy machine gun, its balanced, so what the hell are you talking about?

  • 06.23.2004 1:15 PM PDT
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The M60 is my favorite heavy machine gun cause it sprays out bullets like its job (wait that is its job) That would be a good weapon if you could balance it well like u said before.

P.S. My favorite weapon is the M4 RIS Carbine (probably why imn obsessed with the Battle Rifle so much)

  • 06.23.2004 1:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: Snipe Assault
Actually chain fed guns are easy to reload. Like the Mg 42. Just open up a panel on top. Stick one bullet in. Close the panel and pull the hammer back


racking lever/bolt, not hammer


but, like a stationary gun that you could rip out of the ground and take with you.


[Edited on 6/23/2004 1:23:08 PM]

  • 06.23.2004 1:22 PM PDT

I'll be on my own side.

why dont you just rip the LAAG off a wrecked Warthog??

  • 06.23.2004 1:22 PM PDT
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good idea

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Yeah, I imagine somfin like a Bungie-ized M-60. The reload on belt fed weapons IS fast, but for balance issues it could be slowed.

It would be good for defensive positions, as well as suppressive fire while closing on a dug in foe. Being able to crouch or go prone to deploy bi\tripod would give you a huge accuracy bonus, but also makes you a tasty target from some angles. So yeah, it would be like a mobile cannon, just with limited ammo.
Do you think not being able to carry other weapons would be too harsh ?

Watching tracers spit out and fall in a hail of lead death around an enemy is just something, a balls to the wall weapon, that seemed like it was missing.

Dont get me wrong though I look forward to the BR somfink fierce.

  • 06.23.2004 2:06 PM PDT
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Posted by: MoNucka
I know its not going to happen, but I was thinking that the one type of typical FPS weapon the HALO universe is missing is a HMG.
I imagine it like a big AR, but more accurate at range, more powerful rounds, and slightly slower firing rate. A belt fed weapon with 100 rnds. per belt, a long reload time and a speed\movement penalty, also you couldnt carry any other weapons mabey. When you crouch, you could deploy a bipod slung under the barrel, giving you more accuracy and contoll.
It would be great for getting a vantage on a base or group of enimies and suppressing them while your MP teammates move in to flank. Imagine getting on the ridge trails on blood gultch and peppering any opponent that leaves thier base, or going all out Rambo style down tight corridors. I know it doesnt quite fit in with the weapons of HALO, but I still think it would be awsome for that total badass feel.

What kind of HMG would you like to see?


You are such a wanker. Heavy machine guns use the 50BMG round thats used in Barret sniper rifles for extreme distance shooting, whereas a M60 or 249 SAW are considered light-medium machine guns that use rounds like the .223 or the .308(sorry dont have the NATO terms).

Raeden and I have been talking about the use of light machine guns being intergrated into Halo 2 for a while. His idea was based loosely on the design of the M56 Smart gun that was in Aliens. It would be belt fed, have poor accuracy, and would cause the user to move slower than they would with another type of weapon. My idea was along the same lines except that I liked that I prefered the look of the FN Minimi to the futuristic Smart Gun.

Also, thats a little unfair if the person carrying the MG cant use another weapon. The machine gunner is only able to pick up weapons that require one hand to use, such as the SMG, pistol, and the alien equivelents. In real gunner groups in the military, the MG palys the role of suppresion and cover while the other soldiers in the platoon are the main attacking group.

  • 06.23.2004 8:20 PM PDT
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Actually HMG's, you have to set them up to shoot. And you have to disassemble them to move again.

  • 06.23.2004 8:29 PM PDT
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Posted by: MoNucka
a long reload time and a speed\movement penalty, also you couldnt carry any other weapons mabey.What kind of HMG would you like to see?

i dont know if u have noticed but this isnt castle wolfenstein. this is a cybernetically enhanced super soldier we r talking about here. he should be able to run the same no matter how big the gun is.

  • 06.23.2004 8:33 PM PDT
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A Heavy Machine gune is so heavy, that you cant effectively use it from anything other than a fixed position. Even A Spartan in MJOLNIR armor couldn't accuratly fire one while moving. It would feel so akward, that you wouldn't be able to aim it. But you could use it in MP as a mobile gun platform. Everytime you go prone (that's if you can in H2) you will set it up.

The Browning M2 .50 Cal

  • 06.23.2004 8:38 PM PDT
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how do u know? u were not a spartan last time i checked.

  • 06.23.2004 8:44 PM PDT
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Gattling gun *cough*. Anyways, somebody said somebody considered the new machine gun a HMG, well, its called an SMG (as in sub-machine gun..). So you know??

  • 06.23.2004 9:00 PM PDT
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if the MC can flip a tank that easy then he should have no problem carrying am HMG. after all the tank can be considered something like an HMG

  • 06.23.2004 9:04 PM PDT
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Well first off it would be like MC walking around with a heavy baseball. Easy for him. So no speed loss. And off balance???? When is the last time youve seen a pistol the only gun used in a game>!?!?!?!?!? I have never. So before any one says unbalance, remember pistol. What the guy for the topic said, just made me want the HMG more. He made it sound much more like a war. Im ganna have good dreams tonight.

  • 06.23.2004 9:09 PM PDT
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setting up a gun in halo 2 to use it would be stupid,anyhow,im sure i heard something about a minigun being used in one of the weekly updates,i might be wrong because i havent rechecked,but it comes to memory anyway

im more annoyed there are no pelicans to fly in sp or mp,why oh why bungie.

  • 06.24.2004 12:30 PM PDT

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