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I recently took up Halo again, for the first time in a while (my XBL is down :'( ) and started playing through the game. As I played, I started using the Assault Rifle more and more, and started realizing that this gun isn't as bad as people say it is. I love the AR now, more than the pistol (though the pistol is freaking sweet) and I don't see why people are always dissing it. It's amazing.

  • 02.19.2005 2:44 AM PDT
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the assult rifle is a good underused weapon

  • 02.19.2005 7:00 AM PDT
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well, if ur going 2 play the first lvl with the flood your going 2 need it, u cant kill all those eggs in the first part with the pistol.

[Edited on 2/19/2005 7:12:10 AM]

  • 02.19.2005 7:11 AM PDT
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Its useless in MP

  • 02.19.2005 7:53 AM PDT

Posted by: Sh4rk B1t3
Its useless in MP


You're just not trying.

Posted by: Union_Jack
the assult rifle is a good underused weapon


Tru7h. The assault rifle is a potent and deadly weapon in the right hands.

  • 02.19.2005 8:52 AM PDT
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The AR in Halo 1 is definitely my favorite gun in the game...

I started to use it alot more because of the challenge it presents.

You need to learn its tendancies, what amount of bullet-bursts to use in certain situations, and it actually makes enemies fall back with its devistating sound and look - even if it doesn't do as much damage as a nicely-wielded pistol.

Definitely the most fun gun in the game. I try to use it as much as I can.

[Edited on 2/19/2005 10:53:04 AM]

  • 02.19.2005 10:51 AM PDT
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Try meeleing a golden elite with the AR. Good stuff!

  • 02.19.2005 11:48 AM PDT
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I really miss the AR in Halo 2. I know the SMG is basically the AR, but the look and sound of the AR was just awesome.

  • 02.19.2005 12:04 PM PDT
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the AR is not the SMG, they are totally diff, and behave diff, AR is better

  • 02.19.2005 2:34 PM PDT
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r u kidding

it is the second best all around in mp behind pistol

it would be first if pistol did not have scope

  • 02.19.2005 4:00 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sh4rk B1t3
Its useless in MP


As a starting weapon it isn't bad. You get more range and accuracy then with the SMG in H2. But there are many weapons that are much better. Though I would say that people who know how to time their melee attacks right can rock out with the AR in levels where pistol and shotty are hard to get to. The trick is, you run toward your target while blazing the AR (not bursting, because it is ineffective, there is no increase in accuracy for bursts) and then whip them when in range, it is a deadly move that only an overshield come overcome.

  • 02.19.2005 4:39 PM PDT
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Posted by: Union_Jack
the AR is not the SMG, they are totally diff, and behave diff, AR is better


The AR is an SMG. It's not totally differrent. The AR was definetly less accurate then the new SMG if you hold down the triggers. But the AR has a more devistating effect if you can time your bullet-bursts correctly.

If they kept the SOUND of the old AR and gave it to the "rata-tat-tat" SMG, it would be a cooler gun. The sound was the best thing about the AR.

  • 02.19.2005 4:39 PM PDT

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Score: 39 Spree: 16 Deaths: 8 Medals:17 (8 Doubles, 2 Triples, 1 Killtackular, 4 Sprees, 1 Riot, 1 Rampage) Accuracy: 46% Head Shots: 9
Moral of the story: Gauss Hog for President.

Three_Shot, you say that you burst the AR. But why? I've explained this to many people in their posts. Most people who use the AR tend to think that it is more accurate went fired in bursts, but that is actually not true at all. In Halo 1, the game was designed so that all the bullets you fire fall within the reticle. This means that you can be half way across the room with an AR, keep your fire sustained and it will still be accurate as long as you keep your target in the reticle. Please do not be fooled by a myth that bad players started: the AR is equally accurate when you use burst fire and sustained fire.

And what is the point of using a weapon for the challenge? Shouldn't you stick to weapons that you are good with? And if someone has a pistol they will still take you out, regardless of if you are good with the AR. I will say that the melee attack is both useful and powerful and looks really cool.

  • 02.19.2005 4:46 PM PDT

Turn my headphones up! Turn them -blam!-s up!

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50-30-28-17
Score: 39 Spree: 16 Deaths: 8 Medals:17 (8 Doubles, 2 Triples, 1 Killtackular, 4 Sprees, 1 Riot, 1 Rampage) Accuracy: 46% Head Shots: 9
Moral of the story: Gauss Hog for President.

Three_Shot, the AR is more accurate than the SMG. Today, about 10 of my friends and I got together and played both Halos. The AR's bullets always land somewhere in the reticle, but the SMG's are not bound to the outside of the circle like in Halo 1. And the SMG is much less powerful. The AR is a much better all around starting weapon, but being able to dual wield makes the SMG worth it.

[Edited on 2/19/2005 4:49:28 PM]

  • 02.19.2005 4:49 PM PDT
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no the ar is not an smg, they behave totally differnetly, ar is better

  • 02.19.2005 5:00 PM PDT
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I love everything about the assault rifle, especially the melee attack. The melee attacks for the shotgun, battle rifle and smg in Halo 2 just suck.

  • 02.19.2005 5:22 PM PDT

Turn my headphones up! Turn them -blam!-s up!

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Score: 39 Spree: 16 Deaths: 8 Medals:17 (8 Doubles, 2 Triples, 1 Killtackular, 4 Sprees, 1 Riot, 1 Rampage) Accuracy: 46% Head Shots: 9
Moral of the story: Gauss Hog for President.

Ninja, you really can't compare the melee attacks in Halo 1 and 2, unless you are talking about the look. The amount of damage inflicted was changed, so the only thing you can comment about is the look (i.e. the graphics and motion used). It would be totally unfair to compair the damage done between the two games, because it is a widely know fact that they cause different amounts of damage. But I would say, the melee attacks in Halo 1 look much more fluid than in H2.

  • 02.19.2005 6:54 PM PDT
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The AR was one of the best weapons there was

  • 02.19.2005 10:01 PM PDT
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i like using the ar in buildings because its so close quarters. in longest, i usually switch to the ar, and run up to my opponent, blazing away. by then, im close enough to smack him, so i do to save on ammo.

  • 02.22.2005 9:54 AM PDT
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I agree that the ar is very underrated. Also i hate the smg in halo 2. I would rather have an ar then two smgs. I used this gun on every difficulty even legendary. Actually bursting makes it a tad more accurate, but my favorite thing about the ar was it sound. It was fricken awesome. I wish bungie would put it in the download.

  • 02.22.2005 5:47 PM PDT
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even dual weilding the ar is better than the smg.

  • 02.22.2005 7:19 PM PDT
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Heh, you put up some valid points, but I must disagree with you.
Posted by: BoxMonster13
Three_Shot, you say that you burst the AR. But why? I've explained this to many people in their posts. Most people who use the AR tend to think that it is more accurate went fired in bursts, but that is actually not true at all. In Halo 1, the game was designed so that all the bullets you fire fall within the reticle. This means that you can be half way across the room with an AR, keep your fire sustained and it will still be accurate as long as you keep your target in the reticle. Please do not be fooled by a myth that bad players started: the AR is equally accurate when you use burst fire and sustained fire.

And what is the point of using a weapon for the challenge? Shouldn't you stick to weapons that you are good with? And if someone has a pistol they will still take you out, regardless of if you are good with the AR. I will say that the melee attack is both useful and powerful and looks really cool.


I suppose those are all valid points, but I must disagree.

First of all, I readily challenge you on your claim that the AR is equally accurate when bursting or full auto. The AR is programmed to behave like a real weapon, not a cheap easy made gun (as is the SMG, for this matter, as they both behave similiarily). The first shot generally lands dead center in the middle of the target reticule, and the longer you hold, the more the shots deviate from target.

Second, the fact that the AR shouldn't be used as a challenge. For the most part, I was referring to Single Player, as it's still quite effective in campaign. In MP, though, it does have it's perks over the pistol, namely (and possibly, only) its larger clip. If you approach an enemy from the front, swerving and dodging and burst firing, you're probably going to reach them as they run out of ammo, while generally you will have about a quarter to a half of a clip left to unload on their unshielded little arses. Either way, though, it's a fun gun.

  • 02.23.2005 1:36 AM PDT
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I have always loved the assault rife! The only thing I don't like is that it shots 3 shots. I think that the assault rife should shot one shot like a hunting rifle. Don't get me wrong the pistol dose fricken rock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 03.03.2005 7:55 PM PDT
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Posted by: BoxMonster13
Ninja, you really can't compare the melee attacks in Halo 1 and 2, unless you are talking about the look. The amount of damage inflicted was changed, so the only thing you can comment about is the look (i.e. the graphics and motion used). It would be totally unfair to compair the damage done between the two games, because it is a widely know fact that they cause different amounts of damage. But I would say, the melee attacks in Halo 1 look much more fluid than in H2.


I was talking about the way they look.

  • 03.04.2005 2:18 PM PDT
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i was playing system link battles one day with a couple of friends on halo2,and decided to bring back old memories and played halo:combat evolved.i started to use each gun,just to see how each one felt and all,when i came upon the AR,i fired half a clip and was astonished,i had to get used to the fact of an automatic rifle,i like it alot better then the battle rifle,even though it isnt as accurate.

  • 03.04.2005 2:41 PM PDT

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