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  • Poll [42 votes]: Do you miss Chiron TL-34
Subject: Anybody Miss Chiron

Poll: Do you miss Chiron TL-34  [closed]
Yes:  50%
(21 Votes)
No:  40%
(17 Votes)
Chiron? Was that the teleporty one?:  10%
(4 Votes)
PlzKThx:  0%
(0 Votes)
Total Votes: 42

I don't know about you guys, but I miss the good old days of playing on Chiron TL-34. Playing 1v1 no scope snipers with my bro on one of those 7 inch latch on screens. I don't think I ever enjoyed a game as much as those days. Sweet nostalgia.

  • 06.28.2008 8:20 PM PDT
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Can't say that I do...

  • 06.29.2008 12:00 AM PDT

Posted by: neoshogun
Posted by: Yoozel
Neo has officially been promoted to barf cleaner-upper and pukee hair holder.
I am honored to have that position. While your barfing I can steal your wallets!

It's creepy enough that people stalk Bungie via Webcams, but it's even worse how they stalk back.

yes...since I have the PC version I can play online...shotgun matches are realy fun on that levl especialy with no radar

  • 06.29.2008 12:19 AM PDT

It's a well designed non-symmetrical level. Completely different from pretty much anything out there right now.

  • 06.29.2008 12:31 PM PDT
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Posted by: chickenlittle
It's a well designed non-symmetrical level. Completely different from pretty much anything out there right now.
Too bad it sucked. :D

  • 06.30.2008 5:17 AM PDT

Posted by: Master Kim
Posted by: chickenlittle
It's a well designed non-symmetrical level. Completely different from pretty much anything out there right now.
Too bad it sucked. :D
That sounds familiar...Boarding Action come to mind?

  • 06.30.2008 5:28 AM PDT
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Can you believe it?

Yes, I even remade it in Forge.

  • 06.30.2008 6:18 AM PDT
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Posted by: chickenlittle
Posted by: Master Kim
Too bad it sucked. :D
That sounds familiar...Boarding Action come to mind?
Ding ding ding!

  • 06.30.2008 6:28 PM PDT

Posted by: Master Kim
Posted by: chickenlittle
Posted by: Master Kim
Too bad it sucked. :D
That sounds familiar...Boarding Action come to mind?
Ding ding ding!
You used the exact same phrase in that thread as well. Including the ":D"

And you're catching up. Damn Member Status requirements....

  • 06.30.2008 8:35 PM PDT

Ouch, no, I still have nightmares.

  • 07.01.2008 4:51 AM PDT
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Posted by: chickenlittle
You used the exact same phrase in that thread as well. Including the ":D"
That's why I said, "Ding ding ding!" As in, "You are correct, sir!"
Posted by: chickenlittle
And you're catching up. Damn Member Status requirements....
I couldn't care less. The member rankings are superficial, artificial, inaccurate, inconsistent, insignificant.

  • 07.01.2008 5:09 AM PDT

Posted by: chickenlittle
Completely different from pretty much anything out there right now.
I think there's a reason for that.
Posted by: Master Kim
Too bad it sucked. :D
Oh. There it is.

  • 07.03.2008 10:27 PM PDT

Posted by: SentientGiraffe
Posted by: chickenlittle
Completely different from pretty much anything out there right now.
I think there's a reason for that.
There is a reason. All the good map designers left! :D

  • 07.04.2008 5:25 AM PDT

Posted by: chickenlittle
Posted by: SentientGiraffe
Posted by: chickenlittle
Completely different from pretty much anything out there right now.
I think there's a reason for that.
There is a reason. All the good map designers left! :D
Sadly, that's also true. At least Chiron was creative. That's why I prefer remakes. They can only screw up the good maps so much. I guess they figured that out though; that's why we have spiritual successors and reimaginations.

  • 07.04.2008 10:45 AM PDT

Or they could just start being "creative" again. They need to start coming up with map designs that are original. How about another maze map, but a mix between Chiron and Epitaph? Or possibly a medium-sized symmetrical arena map full of cover in the centre, with ledges on the sides but wide open, and a platofmr with a Rocket Launcher in the middle?

Wait, I'm gonna write these down...

  • 07.04.2008 8:42 PM PDT

Well they created a game that limits their map design, and then they make personal guidelines that limit their map design further. They removed the mid-to-long-range weapon from the game. That makes the sniper rifle too powerful in open areas. So, they have to limit open areas.

They break the teleporters so you're always facing forward when exiting the receiver. Avalanche seems to have been built to work around this, but they refuse to use teleporters in anything but remakes (or reimaginations) and special map variants anyway. They opt to replace them with man cannons and energy lifts, which are just line of sight transport devices. That drastically limits map design. Try to create something like Rat Race, Chill Out, or Chiron with something like that.

They remove fall damage, which, in my opinion, makes multi-level maps much less interesting. Boarding Action, Damnation, and even Hang 'em High aren't going to be nearly as interesting without fall damage. Look at Tombstone, or look at Construct.

They're artists who want to create pretty environments, rather than map creators who want to make good gameplay. They feel the need to create distant scenery, and make maps that better accommodate that desire, even though that scenery has no gameplay benefit at all. So, rather than having real map geometry to serve as barriers, we have cliffs (or similar, less natural structures) or invisible walls at the edge of the maps.

We're left with artists, rather than real map designers, working on a more limited game, while limiting themselves further with personal guidelines. It's a wonder that they can produce anything worthwhile. At least with remakes (Cold Storage), they might overlook some of those guidelines.

  • 07.05.2008 12:35 AM PDT
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ah........the best map ever on halo

  • 07.05.2008 6:49 AM PDT

The single greatest Halo map ever created. Good times...

Chiron, come back to me! I made you a muffin!

  • 07.05.2008 10:25 AM PDT
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Paroday will be missed :(

September 27th 2009

in my opinion it was a bunch of random teleporters not that intresting so ill say no

  • 07.06.2008 5:05 PM PDT
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No I do not like Chiron, I've had Halo since the xbox came out. And to this day, I do not know the layout of the map.

  • 07.10.2008 3:50 PM PDT

Halo CE forever!

Posted by: mr47isback
To this day, I do not know the layout of the map.
Heh, you'll learn it pretty quick if you got motion sensors enabled. It does a big difference in that map. It's more fun without them, though :P

  • 07.10.2008 4:07 PM PDT
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To me, Chrion was just a bunch of teleporters. Maybe I didn't play it enough.

  • 07.12.2008 9:07 PM PDT