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Subject: The Only BR Thread

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Posted by: Langley
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Posted by: Achronos
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Posted by: A DODGY HAJI
wow...im not sure weather to LOL at this or just disregard it totally...hopefully your being sarcastic because thats how your coming off as at the moment.

Im not in favor of increasing the actual damage power output from the BR itself, i just want the spread of the bullets to be tighter and less at random during its burst fire (on top of dropped bullets all together). Im sure in doing this it will increase its damage in someway because the accuracy will be much better and less of a guessing game on which of the bullets will hit what your actually aiming at.

And as for the AR, i could give a rats a$$ about it and its properties or issues, cuzz i dont use it to be quite frank. If they were to rid of the weapon completely it would be fine by me. I was just answering the gents question about why it wasn't a 100% accurate when you have a red reticule. Chicken Fauker bugahauckk!!!!


I'm not being sarcastic or sardonic in the least. You said that there is no room in the game for randomness or bullet spread. And that a weapon that has a "red reticule" should hit the target it's aimed at. So you obviously are in favor of Bungie making the Assault Rifle much stronger, with better range, and with total accuracy. So much so that the Assault Rifle would be better than the Battle Rifle at medium range just like the Assault Rifle is better than the Battle Rifle is at close range. So when I'm using the Assault rifle and the reticule turns red when I'm 20WUs away, every bullet I fire should hit the target assuming I have a red reticule! Right?

So there you have it Bungie, fix the AR! It's not nearly powerful enough, it doesn't have nearly enough range, and when I get a red reticule it should hit every bullet I fire! Why would I want to use a BR at 20WUs when I can use the AR? The Assault Rifle is listed as a medium range weapon!

Bungie, we desperately need a patch for the AR! Bullet spread has no room when using the Assault Rifle!

~B.B.

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Anybody that thinks that the AR is underpowered is an idiot.
The AR can beat any weapon if used properly. The AR is also supposed to have a spread on it, it is pretty much an SMG anyways

HTISCAN THE BR

  • 07.02.2008 1:14 PM PDT

Hello im what you call a "thinker" I enjoy thinking deeply and I do it often. I also love to play halo with friends.

If you would like to play halo with me or just talk about the machinimas i am working on go ahead.

Have you ever thought that it might be you not the gun?

  • 07.02.2008 1:14 PM PDT
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Somebody has never used the Battle Rifle at medium/long range.

  • 07.02.2008 1:16 PM PDT

MY LOVE FOR YOU IS LIKE A TRUCK...
Posted by: Langley
--on another note, I think MLG Chewhatever is an idiot.

Posted by: Achronos
There is a reason I am user ID 1 and my account creation date is before this site came online.

Posted by: ST CheezHead
Anybody that thinks that the AR is underpowered is an idiot.
The AR can beat any weapon if used properly. The AR is also supposed to have a spread on it, it is pretty much an SMG anyways

HTISCAN THE BR


Apparently Hodgy thinks the AR is underpowered. He says that a weapon shouldn't have bullet spread and when it has a "red reticule" it should hit the person it's firing at regardless of range.

Why is the AR suppose to have a spread on it exactly?

~B.B.

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Posted by: BerserkerBarage
Posted by: A DODGY HAJI
wow...im not sure weather to LOL at this or just disregard it totally...hopefully your being sarcastic because thats how your coming off as at the moment.

Im not in favor of increasing the actual damage power output from the BR itself, i just want the spread of the bullets to be tighter and less at random during its burst fire (on top of dropped bullets all together). Im sure in doing this it will increase its damage in someway because the accuracy will be much better and less of a guessing game on which of the bullets will hit what your actually aiming at.

And as for the AR, i could give a rats a$$ about it and its properties or issues, cuzz i dont use it to be quite frank. If they were to rid of the weapon completely it would be fine by me. I was just answering the gents question about why it wasn't a 100% accurate when you have a red reticule. Chicken Fauker bugahauckk!!!!


I'm not being sarcastic or sardonic in the least. You said that there is no room in the game for randomness or bullet spread. And that a weapon that has a "red reticule" should hit the target it's aimed at. So you obviously are in favor of Bungie making the Assault Rifle much stronger, with better range, and with total accuracy. So much so that the Assault Rifle would be better than the Battle Rifle at medium range just like the Assault Rifle is better than the Battle Rifle is at close range. So when I'm using the Assault rifle and the reticule turns red when I'm 20WUs away, every bullet I fire should hit the target assuming I have a red reticule! Right?

So there you have it Bungie, fix the AR! It's not nearly powerful enough, it doesn't have nearly enough range, and when I get a red reticule it should hit every bullet I fire! Why would I want to use a BR at 20WUs when I can use the AR? The Assault Rifle is listed as a medium range weapon!

Bungie, we desperately need a patch for the AR! Bullet spread has no room when using the Assault Rifle!

~B.B.


LOL, can i get a clean up on isle BerserkerBarage.

  • 07.02.2008 1:18 PM PDT

MY LOVE FOR YOU IS LIKE A TRUCK...
Posted by: Langley
--on another note, I think MLG Chewhatever is an idiot.

Posted by: Achronos
There is a reason I am user ID 1 and my account creation date is before this site came online.

Posted by: A DODGY HAJI

LOL, can i get a clean up on isle BerserkerBarage.


Great post. I agree.

I mean, I totally support you Dodgy in the fact that you don't want the damage of the AR increased (that would just be silly) but you want the bullet spread removed and you want it to hit every bullet fired when you have a red reticule no matter the distance. Which would probably dramatically increase the "perceived" power of the AR but not really. It would really just make the AR perform like it should, without needless things like bullet spread and actually have accuracy.

I encourage everyone to support Dodgy here until Bungie finally realizes that the AR shouldn't have bullet spread and make it the power weapon it should be!!

FIX THE AR BUNGIE!!

~B.B.

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Posted by: BerserkerBarage
Posted by: ST CheezHead
Anybody that thinks that the AR is underpowered is an idiot.
The AR can beat any weapon if used properly. The AR is also supposed to have a spread on it, it is pretty much an SMG anyways

HTISCAN THE BR


Apparently Hodgy thinks the AR is underpowered. He says that a weapon shouldn't have bullet spread and when it has a "red reticule" it should hit the person it's firing at regardless of range.

Why is the AR suppose to have a spread on it exactly?

~B.B.


I in no way said i wanted the AR spread to be adj, i just commented on why the weapon still wasn't accurate even when you have a red reticule. Its about the only weapon that should have real spread due to its a full automatic style weapon and would truly have heavy spread. I like how you took my words out of contex and decided to run with them. Sorry if i offended you bro.

  • 07.02.2008 1:22 PM PDT

I have but this to say. If you are people who are looking for a gun that only requires "skill", use the Magnum. It's essentially a BR with no spread and no scope. It does just about the same damage.

  • 07.02.2008 1:25 PM PDT

MY LOVE FOR YOU IS LIKE A TRUCK...
Posted by: Langley
--on another note, I think MLG Chewhatever is an idiot.

Posted by: Achronos
There is a reason I am user ID 1 and my account creation date is before this site came online.

Posted by: A DODGY HAJI
I in no way said i wanted the AR spread to be adj, i just commented on why the weapon still wasn't accurate even when you have a red reticule. Its about the only weapon that should have real spread due to its a full automatic style weapon and would truly have heavy spread. I like how you took my words out of contex and decided to run with them. Sorry if i offended you bro.


Oh Dodgy, but you did. You said that weapons shouldn't have bullet spread because randomness has no place in Halo!!

Oh no Dodgy?!?! What are you doing? How can you say that the AR should have bullet spread because it's a full aut weapon?!?!? There is no need for realism in Halo 3. Just because a weapon is full aut doesn't mean it should have bullet spread! It should hit every bullet in short or medium range when the reticule is red. You're using the AR in it's listed range and aiming accordingly.

Dodgy...don't tell me that EVERYTHING you've said THIS ENTIRE THREAD has been completely WRONG!! I don't know what I would do!!

Please guys, we need to encourage Dodgy to continue to lambast Bungie until they remove the bullet spread and fix the range and fix the accuracy for the AR!!

~B.B.

[Edited on 07.02.2008 1:29 PM PDT]

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Posted by: BerserkerBarage
Posted by: A DODGY HAJI
I in no way said i wanted the AR spread to be adj, i just commented on why the weapon still wasn't accurate even when you have a red reticule. Its about the only weapon that should have real spread due to its a full automatic style weapon and would truly have heavy spread. I like how you took my words out of contex and decided to run with them. Sorry if i offended you bro.


Oh Dodgy, but you did. You said that weapons shouldn't have bullet spread because randomness has no place in Halo!!

Oh no Dodgy?!?! What are you doing? How can you say that the AR should have bullet spread because it's a full aut weapon?!?!? There is no need for realism in Halo 3. Just because a weapon is full aut doesn't mean it should have bullet spread! It should hit every bullet in short or medium range when the reticule is red. You're using the AR in it's listed range and aiming accordingly.

Dodgy...don't tell me that EVERYTHING you've said THIS ENTIRE THREAD has been completely WRONG!! I don't know what I would do!!

Please guys, we need to encourage Dodgy to continue to lambast Bungie until they remove the bullet spread and fix the range and fix the accuracy for the AR!!

~B.B.


LOL!!! Too Funny!!!

I can already see this thread going wayyy off topic...



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Bungie said they don't want the BR to be overpowered, but they put in the flamethrower which is not only the most overpowered weapon ever it takes no skill. IMO button combos were way more fair than flamethrower and WAY cooler.

Oh FYI I am with the MLG people I prefer Halo 2 BR although I do see the reasoning behind Bungie making it the way they did. I think Bungie is an amazing company who works very hard for the fans but I do wish they made some updates to halo 3, I won't quit playing if they don't.

I think Halo 2 was flawless (the things most people call flaws I call really cool like, button combos, superbounces etc.) The aiming was perfect the BR and Sniper felt so right.

Oh well I still love the game Bungie and look forward to cold storage.

  • 07.02.2008 1:35 PM PDT

MY LOVE FOR YOU IS LIKE A TRUCK...
Posted by: Langley
--on another note, I think MLG Chewhatever is an idiot.

Posted by: Achronos
There is a reason I am user ID 1 and my account creation date is before this site came online.

Posted by: A DODGY HAJI
LOL!!! Too Funny!!!



I know!! It is hilarious that Bungie hasn't removed bullet spread from the Assault Rifle yet! I mean, just like you said, randomness has NO place in Halo. And I would totally EL OH EL in those kids faces who would dare use a "realism" argument in saying that the AR *should* have bullet spread! I think I might ride on my ROFLCOPTER until Bungie realizes that the AR should hit every SINGLE shot fired in short and medium range when I have a red reticule.

Just remember Bungie, bullet spread aka randomness has NO place in Halo. A weapon should hit every shot when operated inside it's listed ranges and has a red reticule. Only a desperate idiot would try to say that a weapon *should* have bullet spread based upon a "realism" argument.

Cheers Dodgy! Don't give up hope. Someday Bungie will see their mistake and fix the AR!!

FIX THE AR BUNGIE!!

~B.B.

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Posted by: BerserkerBarage
Posted by: A DODGY HAJI
LOL!!! Too Funny!!!



I know!! It is hilarious that Bungie hasn't removed bullet spread from the Assault Rifle yet! I mean, just like you said, randomness has NO place in Halo. And I would totally EL OH EL in those kids faces who would dare use a "realism" argument in saying that the AR *should* have bullet spread! I think I might ride on my ROFLCOPTER until Bungie realizes that the AR should hit every SINGLE shot fired in short and medium range when I have a red reticule.

Just remember Bungie, bullet spread aka randomness has NO place in Halo. A weapon should hit every shot when operated inside it's listed ranges and has a red reticule. Only a desperate idiot would try to say that a weapon *should* have bullet spread based upon a "realism" argument.

Cheers Dodgy! Don't give up hope. Someday Bungie will see their mistake and fix the AR!!

FIX THE AR BUNGIE!!

~B.B.


WOW!!! Maby they will, just for you, and your fisecious rant. Your so cool!!! I think we should all take after you, and your movement for a change in the AR.

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this is a br spread not an ar spread, get off topic much?

  • 07.02.2008 2:01 PM PDT

there seems to be some BRs in some maps that dont feel well while ur shooting it.the 3burst seems broken

  • 07.02.2008 2:15 PM PDT

MY LOVE FOR YOU IS LIKE A TRUCK...
Posted by: Langley
--on another note, I think MLG Chewhatever is an idiot.

Posted by: Achronos
There is a reason I am user ID 1 and my account creation date is before this site came online.

Posted by: elmo034
this is a br spread not an ar spread, get off topic much?


Actually, it's perfectly on-topic, you just aren't smart enough to figure it out. At least Dodgy has company now.

~B.B.

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Posted by: BerserkerBarage
Posted by: elmo034
this is a br spread not an ar spread, get off topic much?


Actually, it's perfectly on-topic, you just aren't smart enough to figure it out. At least Dodgy has company now.

~B.B.


Of course of course, degrade my intelligence. Your so clever, you must have an IQ of about 60 which by standards is 10 points below feeble. I think I've seen you on TV before...yea your famous, aren't you the guy who plays CORKY from "Life Goes On". Yea it is you wow, i love your video FIGHT THE POWER. You and Flavor Fla should get together and have cookies and milk and talk about life sometime :)

[Edited on 07.02.2008 2:45 PM PDT]

  • 07.02.2008 2:43 PM PDT

MY LOVE FOR YOU IS LIKE A TRUCK...
Posted by: Langley
--on another note, I think MLG Chewhatever is an idiot.

Posted by: Achronos
There is a reason I am user ID 1 and my account creation date is before this site came online.

Posted by: A DODGY HAJI
Posted by: BerserkerBarage
Posted by: elmo034
this is a br spread not an ar spread, get off topic much?


Actually, it's perfectly on-topic, you just aren't smart enough to figure it out. At least Dodgy has company now.

~B.B.


Of course of course, degrade my intelligence. Your so clever, you must have an IQ of about 60 which by standards is 10 points below feeble.:)


I don't have to degrade your intelligence. You did it for me. I was laughing my ass off as you kept falling for the same logic trap over and over again. It was amazing.

~B.B.

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Posted by: BerserkerBarage
Posted by: A DODGY HAJI
Posted by: BerserkerBarage
Posted by: elmo034
this is a br spread not an ar spread, get off topic much?


Actually, it's perfectly on-topic, you just aren't smart enough to figure it out. At least Dodgy has company now.

~B.B.


Of course of course, degrade my intelligence. Your so clever, you must have an IQ of about 60 which by standards is 10 points below feeble.:)


I don't have to degrade your intelligence. You did it for me. I was laughing my ass off as you kept falling for the same logic trap over and over again. It was amazing.

~B.B.


glad i could amuse you. have a nice day! :)

  • 07.02.2008 2:53 PM PDT

MY LOVE FOR YOU IS LIKE A TRUCK...
Posted by: Langley
--on another note, I think MLG Chewhatever is an idiot.

Posted by: Achronos
There is a reason I am user ID 1 and my account creation date is before this site came online.

Posted by: A DODGY HAJI

glad i could amuse you. have a nice day! :)


Oh you did. You did. Thanks for proving that BR-supporters can't reason their way out of a paper bag. In 4 short replies to me you completely contradicted everything you had said in the previous 8 pages of replies.

I'd strongly encourage you to keep replying because every time I see your name pop up I can't help but smile.

~B.B.

  • 07.02.2008 2:56 PM PDT

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flarg you if you're just pulling our legs.
It is the thought and intention that is important, not the word.

In response to a post I saw in another Battle Rifle thread, I give you this:

Posted by: JonnyOThan
No, that can't happen if you're firing at the intended range. If you read and understood the math in the weekly update, the first bullet from a burst is accurate enough that at 18 world units, it will land within 0.47 feet from where you intended it to go. The spartan's head is 0.93 feet across from the front, and even wider from the side. If your aim was perfect (hey look, there's skill involved!) you cannot miss the head at that range because of the "spread."
Am I the only person who sees a problem with this? If you are aimed perfectly, (dead-center of the other player's head), that means you have .465 world units in a circle around that spot which is equivalant to the size of the Spartan's head. .47>.465. If I have read correctly, the spread (or possiblity/size) of the spread increases with each bullet fired in the burst, so even if your aim was perfect, there is a chance all 3 bullets from the burst will miss.

This is an extremely demented idea in game development, and is really disheartening, unless I am wrong somewhere....

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Posted by: BerserkerBarage
Posted by: A DODGY HAJI

glad i could amuse you. have a nice day! :)


Oh you did. You did. Thanks for proving that BR-supporters can't reason their way out of a paper bag. In 4 short replies to me you completely contradicted everything you had said in the previous 8 pages of replies.

I'd strongly encourage you to keep replying because every time I see your name pop up I can't help but smile.

~B.B.


I will just for you. :) FIGHT THE POWER Your a great dancer by the way, did you take lessons from a quadriplegic?

[Edited on 07.02.2008 3:07 PM PDT]

  • 07.02.2008 2:58 PM PDT

We should get this straight: MLG does not want the Halo 2 BR back. All we want is a weapon that consistently kills within its intended range. I'm fine with leading shots, and having the BR not be a hit scan weapon, but the random factor ruins it for me. Say someone is standing at Gold 2 and I'm standing at Snipe 2. I'm not moving and I have my aimer lined up perfectly on their head. If I shoot them four times they should die, every time. With the current BR sometimes they will die in 4 shots, sometimes it will take 5, and sometimes it will take 6 or possibly more. How is that good game design?

  • 07.02.2008 3:16 PM PDT

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Posted by: BerserkerBarage
Posted by: A DODGY HAJI

glad i could amuse you. have a nice day! :)


Oh you did. You did. Thanks for proving that BR-supporters can't reason their way out of a paper bag. In 4 short replies to me you completely contradicted everything you had said in the previous 8 pages of replies.

I'd strongly encourage you to keep replying because every time I see your name pop up I can't help but smile.

~B.B.


Try to go a bit easier on him =)

I've never really considered the Battle Rifle to be a problem. To me its felt like it achieves what it is designed for. An effective medium range weapon that is versatile.

  • 07.02.2008 3:21 PM PDT