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Subject: The Only BR Thread

Posted by: Shadow Wolf7347
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epic fail!
? seriously stop prowling the forum and find something better to do. br is as easy to use as a sword 2 feet any where near the head = headshot click the link on the first page of this forum my god you noob. your the reason halo multiplayer is dying


if you think it takes no skill to use then pleassssse send my a friendrequest so i can -blam!- your ass at a 1v1 i know i will win bc your obviously too much of a noob to realize what the br can do
hahahaha easy as a sword!? i bet you went around and practiced hitting the b button instead of rt didnt you? if it makes you feel better you can bring your glowstick


and in all honesty you might feel differently: i DO NOT believe the br is the best weapon on halo3 it would have to be the sniper rifle

  • 12.03.2008 5:56 AM PDT

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Posted by: Prodigy117
It does take a moderate amount of skill which cant be said for the sword which takes almost zero skill. You do have to aim fairly precisely however the bullets do auto aim a bit, there's certainly no way you can 4 shot someone without the centre of the reticle on their head/upper chest. In halo 2 the hitscan actually meant that you could aim 2 feet to one side and 4 shot someone.

When people say the BR is easy and requires little skill, they are mostly referring to the difficulty of cleaning up a kill with a headshot. I mean killing someone with a BR when only one bullet is required for a headshot. Most can agree that this is the most popular way of using the BR in a default gametype, such as stealing kills or deshielding opponents with a combo weapon, and therefore brings many to believe it is very easy to use.

4-shotting does require much skill, because every bullet must hit your target. This means that you have to have the center of your reticule more accurate. With a single shot weapon, like the Magnum or Sniper, you don't necessarily have to have a very accurate body shot. However, headshots with a single shot weapon requires pretty accurate aim. To be honest, the Carbine doesn't require more skill than the BR since it has a fast RoF. It is a single shot weapon, but one missed bullet won't kill you. (Though all this can be greatly affected by Halo 3's randomness)

In conclusion, the BR's skill is with the 4/5-shotting, and the Single-shot weapons' skill is with the headshot. Killing an unshielded opponent with the BR is quite easy. Actually, I sometimes compare the difficulty of BR headshots to the difficulty of the Rocket Launcher, except the Rocket Launcher is easier to dodge.

One more thing...Sword vs. Sword = skill. Sword vs. anything else = not so much. This goes for most, if not all, of the weapons. BR vs. BR is a battle of skill. BR vs. AR is not.

  • 12.03.2008 9:03 AM PDT

Posted by: Jiggly Luv
4-shotting does require much skill, because every bullet must hit your target. This means that you have to have the center of your reticule more accurate. With a single shot weapon, like the Magnum or Sniper, you don't necessarily have to have a very accurate body shot. However, headshots with a single shot weapon requires pretty accurate aim. To be honest, the Carbine doesn't require more skill than the BR since it has a fast RoF. It is a single shot weapon, but one missed bullet won't kill you. (Though all this can be greatly affected by Halo 3's randomness)


This is the entire crux of the problem. When outside of the incredibly limited "optimum" range of the Battle Rifle, the overly-variable spread means that even if you have your reticle on the enemy, perfectly aimed, whether or not every bullet hits is random. So two players can have a battle at mid range and both can aim perfectly, but one can get the kill and the other wont.

Then, when you are in the "optimum" range of the BR, its too damn easy to get a 4 shot kill, so it turns into a battle of who sees who first. I want the BR to be harder to use in every situation, short to long ranges, but I want it to reward skilled aiming and not overly-limit a players ability to be effective.

This is a multi-faceted problem; the slow player speed (both movement and strafing especially), excessive bullet magnetism and auto-aim, and the BR spread and firing speed all contribute to it.

[Edited on 12.03.2008 9:52 AM PST]

  • 12.03.2008 9:50 AM PDT
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Br's are awesme with that dot in the center if your headshotting people

  • 12.03.2008 1:40 PM PDT

Posted by: Jiggly Luv
Posted by: Prodigy117
It does take a moderate amount of skill which cant be said for the sword which takes almost zero skill. You do have to aim fairly precisely however the bullets do auto aim a bit, there's certainly no way you can 4 shot someone without the centre of the reticle on their head/upper chest. In halo 2 the hitscan actually meant that you could aim 2 feet to one side and 4 shot someone.

When people say the BR is easy and requires little skill, they are mostly referring to the difficulty of cleaning up a kill with a headshot. I mean killing someone with a BR when only one bullet is required for a headshot. Most can agree that this is the most popular way of using the BR in a default gametype, such as stealing kills or deshielding opponents with a combo weapon, and therefore brings many to believe it is very easy to use.

4-shotting does require much skill, because every bullet must hit your target. This means that you have to have the center of your reticule more accurate. With a single shot weapon, like the Magnum or Sniper, you don't necessarily have to have a very accurate body shot. However, headshots with a single shot weapon requires pretty accurate aim. To be honest, the Carbine doesn't require more skill than the BR since it has a fast RoF. It is a single shot weapon, but one missed bullet won't kill you. (Though all this can be greatly affected by Halo 3's randomness)

In conclusion, the BR's skill is with the 4/5-shotting, and the Single-shot weapons' skill is with the headshot. Killing an unshielded opponent with the BR is quite easy. Actually, I sometimes compare the difficulty of BR headshots to the difficulty of the Rocket Launcher, except the Rocket Launcher is easier to dodge.

One more thing...Sword vs. Sword = skill. Sword vs. anything else = not so much. This goes for most, if not all, of the weapons. BR vs. BR is a battle of skill. BR vs. AR is not.


I completely agree that the BR is too easy to use however I felt I had to point out that it is certainly harder to use than the sword. I did actually say in my post that it is too easy to headshot opponents. When it comes to the sword there is very lttle skill in sword v sword other than knowing that using standard beatdown allows faster recovery, then its really all about connection.

I also agree about the carbine, too many people go on about the carbine being extremely skillful, in theory it is but in practice it isn't due to the fast ROF and the lack of a penalty for using that fast rate of fire. The weapons spread is not altered and the bullets still auto aim meaning that if you miss one shot the next shot will still be quite accurate and you can just adjust slightly to get that headshot meaning that in terms of kill-time it doesnt affect you much.

It can seem difficult to get a headshot sometimes with the BR online but this is primarily due to your bullets not actually going where you aim them or not existing in some cases on the hosts xbox, if you don't have to deal with a lot of latency then the BR is easy get headshots with. Again at range it can turn into a bit of a lottery.

  • 12.04.2008 7:48 AM PDT
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Posted by: Shadow Wolf7347
Posted by: YEPitsREAL
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
epic fail!
? seriously stop prowling the forum and find something better to do. br is as easy to use as a sword 2 feet any where near the head = headshot click the link on the first page of this forum my god you noob. your the reason halo multiplayer is dying


if you think it takes no skill to use then pleassssse send my a friendrequest so i can -blam!- your ass at a 1v1 i know i will win bc your obviously too much of a noob to realize what the br can do
hahahaha easy as a sword!? i bet you went around and practiced hitting the b button instead of rt didnt you? if it makes you feel better you can bring your glowstick


and in all honesty you might feel differently: i DO NOT believe the br is the best weapon on halo3 it would have to be the sniper rifle
every word you say proves my point further

  • 12.04.2008 3:23 PM PDT
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in order to stop the whiners there needs to be a weapon that is mid-ranged similar to both h3 br and h3 assault rifle.

  • 12.04.2008 3:26 PM PDT

Posted by: The Demon Bear
in order to stop the whiners there needs to be a weapon that is mid-ranged similar to both h3 br and h3 assault rifle.


I'm pretty sure thats the complete opposite of what anyone wants.

  • 12.04.2008 6:51 PM PDT

Posted by: Shadow Wolf7347
Posted by: YEPitsREAL
Posted by: Shadow Wolf7347
Posted by: YEPitsREAL
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
epic fail!
? seriously stop prowling the forum and find something better to do. br is as easy to use as a sword 2 feet any where near the head = headshot click the link on the first page of this forum my god you noob. your the reason halo multiplayer is dying


if you think it takes no skill to use then pleassssse send my a friendrequest so i can -blam!- your ass at a 1v1 i know i will win bc your obviously too much of a noob to realize what the br can do
hahahaha easy as a sword!? i bet you went around and practiced hitting the b button instead of rt didnt you? if it makes you feel better you can bring your glowstick


and in all honesty you might feel differently: i DO NOT believe the br is the best weapon on halo3 it would have to be the sniper rifle
every word you say proves my point further



obviously you didnt understand what you read when you clicked on the link on the first page, if you even clicked on it to begin with, theres just no way you understand what its saying with what you said

"every word you say..." none of what i said even begins to support your side so stop being a little p*ssy, man up and play me 1v1

  • 12.04.2008 7:26 PM PDT

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Well whats wrong with it , its a promising weapon and it has good accuracy not over powered its perfect i like it alot most of my kills are with it
what mooshmoosh said

  • 12.04.2008 7:29 PM PDT

Don't take it away from me. I need something to hold onto.
The BR is perfect.
Best weapon ever in any game.
As in most balanced and does just what it is supposed to do.
More maps soon please.

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Posted by: YEPitsREAL
Posted by: Shadow Wolf7347
Posted by: YEPitsREAL
Posted by: Shadow Wolf7347
Posted by: YEPitsREAL
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
epic fail!
? seriously stop prowling the forum and find something better to do. br is as easy to use as a sword 2 feet any where near the head = headshot click the link on the first page of this forum my god you noob. your the reason halo multiplayer is dying


if you think it takes no skill to use then pleassssse send my a friendrequest so i can -blam!- your ass at a 1v1 i know i will win bc your obviously too much of a noob to realize what the br can do
hahahaha easy as a sword!? i bet you went around and practiced hitting the b button instead of rt didnt you? if it makes you feel better you can bring your glowstick


and in all honesty you might feel differently: i DO NOT believe the br is the best weapon on halo3 it would have to be the sniper rifle
every word you say proves my point further



obviously you didnt understand what you read when you clicked on the link on the first page, if you even clicked on it to begin with, theres just no way you understand what its saying with what you said

"every word you say..." none of what i said even begins to support your side so stop being a little p*ssy, man up and play me 1v1

your diggin it deeper. Every word you say is still just proving it further. I bet you every 1v1 you play is brs correct? or br/sniper? If so ive been winning this whole time you've been posting

  • 12.05.2008 12:29 PM PDT

Posted by: Shadow Wolf7347

[/quote]your diggin it deeper. Every word you say is still just proving it further. I bet you every 1v1 you play is brs correct? or br/sniper? If so ive been winning this whole time you've been posting


since when was this a contest?
if you call making yourself look like a complete retard, winning, then yes by all means you've been winning
but your saying the br takes no skill which, your stupid for saying that
why dont you back it up by showing me how easy the br is and play me 1v1 already

and no not all of them are just most of them
but ill kick your ass with any weapon
i play best 2 of 3 and let the other kid pick the first 2 (thats you in case you didnt understand) and i pick the last one
only slayer, no objectives
if i have to wait for your balls to drop thats fine i can wait a long time

  • 12.05.2008 1:00 PM PDT

rofl i just read your signature hahahahhaha sounds like the br really ruined your life
just to let you know your signature says it all right there
it completely goes against what your saying now
its 100% right there wasnt any trash talking br nobody was insanely better than everyone else until the br came which actually took skill its what draws the line between boys and men or noobs and pros
how many pors do you see camping in a corner with a sword? none mlg maps dont even have swords on them

  • 12.05.2008 1:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: YEPitsREAL
Posted by: Shadow Wolf7347

[/quote]your diggin it deeper. Every word you say is still just proving it further. I bet you every 1v1 you play is brs correct? or br/sniper? If so ive been winning this whole time you've been posting


since when was this a contest?
if you call making yourself look like a complete retard, winning, then yes by all means you've been winning
but your saying the br takes no skill which, your stupid for saying that
why dont you back it up by showing me how easy the br is and play me 1v1 already

and no not all of them are just most of them
but ill kick your ass with any weapon
i play best 2 of 3 and let the other kid pick the first 2 (thats you in case you didnt understand) and i pick the last one
only slayer, no objectives
if i have to wait for your balls to drop thats fine i can wait a long time
aww is someone angry? id say you have to w8 till ur balls drop to play but you might have to grow some first. str8 up ar and smgs no other spawns. I AM THE VOICE OF EVERYONE THAT DISLIKES THE BR. FEAR THE AUTO. FEAR THE RAW POWER OF THE NOOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Edited on 12.05.2008 1:23 PM PST]

  • 12.05.2008 1:18 PM PDT
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btw yep its real dont bother coming up with a response because i really havnt read any of your post i just hit reply qoute and see how angry i can make you XD so far its been working pretty well :D:D:D:D:D:D:DXDXDXDXD XD XDXD XD XDXD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD

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Posted by: YEPitsREAL
rofl i just read your signature hahahahhaha sounds like the br really ruined your life
just to let you know your signature says it all right there
it completely goes against what your saying now
its 100% right there wasnt any trash talking br nobody was insanely better than everyone else until the br came which actually took skill its what draws the line between boys and men or noobs and pros
how many pors do you see camping in a corner with a sword? none mlg maps dont even have swords on them
lol just what i was waiting for!!! all mlg weps ARE 1-2 HIT KILL ALL OF THEM ya hes not camping with a sword just a mauler or a rocket(btw its pros not pors) mauler shoot melle sniper 2shot or shot then melle, rocket 1shot or 2 if ur far enough away. plasma pistol shoot "whack" br whack shoot and plasma nades 1 hit frags 2 hit? and they say mlg isnt about power weps.........

[Edited on 12.05.2008 1:56 PM PST]

  • 12.05.2008 1:55 PM PDT

Posted by: Shadow Wolf7347
Posted by: YEPitsREAL
rofl i just read your signature hahahahhaha sounds like the br really ruined your life
just to let you know your signature says it all right there
it completely goes against what your saying now
its 100% right there wasnt any trash talking br nobody was insanely better than everyone else until the br came which actually took skill its what draws the line between boys and men or noobs and pros
how many pors do you see camping in a corner with a sword? none mlg maps dont even have swords on them
lol just what i was waiting for!!! all mlg weps ARE 1-2 HIT KILL ALL OF THEM ya hes not camping with a sword just a mauler or a rocket(btw its pros not pors) mauler shoot melle sniper 2shot or shot then melle, rocket 1shot or 2 if ur far enough away. plasma pistol shoot "whack" br whack shoot and plasma nades 1 hit frags 2 hit? and they say mlg isnt about power weps.........




you dont understand the point of mlg, yeah theres a rocket sniper and mauler, but they dont control the maps like slayer bc theres no radars, just come up behind them if you cant take them out from the front, thats why theres boxes to jump on everywhere, thats why theres a mauler.

aw am i hurting your feelings? you cant take it anymore, so your gong to lie and say you didnt read what i said? :( awww im sorry
but your a really bad liar

assrifle and smg it is!
ill send you a request bc obviously you not man enough to do it yet

  • 12.06.2008 6:03 AM PDT
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Sup Hoecake?

Leave the BR as it is, and give it a higher weight in Social Slayer hoppers.

The Magnum is pretty beastly too. I didn't realize that it's basically a BR with better peripheral vision.

  • 12.06.2008 10:19 AM PDT

Posted by: Shadow Wolf7347
lol just what i was waiting for!!! all mlg weps ARE 1-2 HIT KILL ALL OF THEM ya hes not camping with a sword just a mauler or a rocket(btw its pros not pors) mauler shoot melle sniper 2shot or shot then melle, rocket 1shot or 2 if ur far enough away. plasma pistol shoot "whack" br whack shoot and plasma nades 1 hit frags 2 hit? and they say mlg isnt about power weps.........
MLG just filtered out all of the useless weapons in the game. There is a reason for every weapon being placed where it is.

  • 12.06.2008 1:57 PM PDT

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BR is awsome four correct headshots equals KILLS KILLS & KILLS!

  • 12.06.2008 3:38 PM PDT
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the BR is so good i use it in campain more than the AR and i use it in machtmaking a lot my best combo is BR and sniper rifle so i can snipe and clear up kill and even steel kills so keep the br the same.

  • 12.06.2008 4:25 PM PDT

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Posted by: Shadow Wolf7347
lol just what i was waiting for!!! all mlg weps ARE 1-2 HIT KILL ALL OF THEM ya hes not camping with a sword just a mauler or a rocket(btw its pros not pors) mauler shoot melle sniper 2shot or shot then melle, rocket 1shot or 2 if ur far enough away. plasma pistol shoot "whack" br whack shoot and plasma nades 1 hit frags 2 hit? and they say mlg isnt about power weps.........
MLG just filtered out all of the useless weapons in the game. There is a reason for every weapon being placed where it is.


That's a new take on MLG. I like the way you think.

Of course I'm not an MLG fanboy, I could care less about it although I do respect the amount of sportsmanship that there is in the pro leagues. But yes I agree, MLG simply filtered out the useless weapons in the game.

  • 12.07.2008 9:51 AM PDT

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  • 12.08.2008 2:43 PM PDT