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Subject: The Only BR Thread

The halo 3 BR is better than the halo 2 BR

  • 07.02.2008 9:57 PM PDT

The halo 3 BR is better than the halo 2 BR
Are you kidding me?
A h2 BR would smack h3 br in the face! (excluding the magnetism aim)
And I checked your stats and your weapon of destructions and i'm not surprised.

[Edited on 07.02.2008 10:05 PM PDT]

  • 07.02.2008 10:04 PM PDT

Posted by: BerserkerBarage
And since you're so in favor of removing the spread from the BR, you'd also be in favor of removing the spread from the Assault Rifle and make it so it will connect every shot when its reticule is red.

~B.B.


The AR is intended to work best at a short range, the BR at a mid range and the Sniper at a long range. Fully tightening the BR spread would make it perform like a Sniper Rifle, albeit a little weaker. Fully tightening the AR spread would make it perform like a Sniper Rifle also, albeit a little weaker then if the BR was tightened. I for one do not want the BR to perform like a Sniper Rifle. I would welcome it, but all I want is for the BR to work at its intended range, which is mid range. As of now, the spread of the AR suits short range perfectly, the spread of the Sniper Rifle suits long range perfectly, but the BR is not as effective at mid range as a sniper is at long range, which is the cause of the problem. I don't want a spread like we see in the Sniper Rifle, that's ludicrous. The BR would just become a four shot Sniper Rifle. No, what I would prefer is to see the BR spread tightened just enough so that it works properly at its intended range, which as of now, it doesn't.


[Edited on 07.02.2008 10:06 PM PDT]

  • 07.02.2008 10:05 PM PDT

^ agreed.

  • 07.02.2008 10:07 PM PDT
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the only probelm I have with it is that I would like it to fier straight otherwise its my best wepon that I use!!!!! =D

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  • 07.02.2008 10:11 PM PDT
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I was at a friend's house today, and he only has the first Xbox, so we played Halo 2, and i actually like the BR now, more then the H2 BR.
it takes skill, and practice to use the H3 BR.
The way i see it, if you cant get the hang of leading your shots and using a tactical weapon, then just put it down and use something else, there are other weapons for a reason.

  • 07.02.2008 10:42 PM PDT

Posted by: LTC Ambrose
I was at a friend's house today, and he only has the first Xbox, so we played Halo 2, and i actually like the BR now, more then the H2 BR.
it takes skill, and practice to use the H3 BR.
The way i see it, if you cant get the hang of leading your shots and using a tactical weapon, then just put it down and use something else, there are other weapons for a reason.


It's nothing to do with leading shots, if you bothered to read a bit more into the discussion you would have realised this.

  • 07.02.2008 11:23 PM PDT
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Lol. i was wondering where all the complaining went XD
This is for the better.


Maybe if you prefer "elitz n swot" and "y ppl T-BAG!?!?!?" threads to productive discussion.

There is no preference.
The Battle Rifle whining was just stupid and Im glad it can all be condensed into one topic so it's doesnt cover a fourth of the front page.

  • 07.02.2008 11:27 PM PDT
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Suck it up kids, Suck it up.

  • 07.02.2008 11:33 PM PDT

Posted by: Vashkey
Posted by: BakedPotatoLive
Posted by: Vashkey
Lol. i was wondering where all the complaining went XD
This is for the better.


Maybe if you prefer "elitz n swot" and "y ppl T-BAG!?!?!?" threads to productive discussion.

There is no preference.
The Battle Rifle whining was just stupid and Im glad it can all be condensed into one topic so it's doesnt cover a fourth of the front page.


Oh? So you would rather threads about "Elites in SWOT", "Cold Storage is the new _____", "What is DoubleXP" and "shuld i tebag lolol1!1" to threads that encourage productive discussion?

  • 07.02.2008 11:35 PM PDT
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Posted by: BakedPotatoLive
Posted by: Vashkey
Posted by: BakedPotatoLive
Posted by: Vashkey
Lol. i was wondering where all the complaining went XD
This is for the better.


Maybe if you prefer "elitz n swot" and "y ppl T-BAG!?!?!?" threads to productive discussion.

There is no preference.
The Battle Rifle whining was just stupid and Im glad it can all be condensed into one topic so it's doesnt cover a fourth of the front page.


Oh? So you would rather threads about "Elites in SWOT", "Cold Storage is the new _____", "What is DoubleXP" and "shuld i tebag lolol1!1" to threads that encourage productive discussion?


I have to agree with Baked on this one, majority of the topics being posted on the main forum have been sub par to be somewhat nice. I mean do we really need a "Should i Tea Bag" Thread? The whole forum has become more of a circus act for kids who want to talk about Tea Baggin, Recon Armor, Rate the Persons Armor Above You and Its My Birthday. But hey, what can you do, just sift threw the garbage of topics to find the few who have posted good threads with real issues or topics that need some insight or answers (and i don't claim to always have either of the two but i do try :-) ).

[Edited on 07.02.2008 11:56 PM PDT]

  • 07.02.2008 11:44 PM PDT

I was at a friend's house today, and he only has the first Xbox, so we played Halo 2, and i actually like the BR now, more then the H2 BR.
it takes skill, and practice to use the H3 BR.
The way i see it, if you cant get the hang of leading your shots and using a tactical weapon, then just put it down and use something else, there are other weapons for a reason.

Not about skill at all, its about it being so god damn random. I have the skill to aim at their head or lead my shots perfectly and still happen to have to fire 1-3 more shots for the kill (midrange). Halo 2 when you fired at their head....they died!

  • 07.03.2008 12:40 AM PDT

Sent the map 11/27. Hope it all goes well.

Hey guys! I found a GREAT WAY to use the Battle Rifle in it's current state! And you don't have to practice much at all in custom games to notice it! First, let me list it out!

- The BR's spread is like a cone! The cone gets bigger when you add more distance between you and the target!

- The Battle Rifle does the same damage at any part of the body (head, shoulders, knees and toes!) when it is shielded! When the shield goes out, go for the head shot! It is recommended that you shoot at a large portion of the body to maximize the chances of getting all 3 bullets to hit!

If you guys don't believe me, watch this video and love the Battle Rifle again! :D

Please note that the settings used is in the MLG settings, but this method can still be applied in Normal Slayer settings.

  • 07.03.2008 1:34 AM PDT

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I hide my Gamertag because I don't want to play with you :).

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Well as some of you know, the BR in Halo 2 and Halo are different. In Halo 2 you wouldn't have to lead your shots, its usually an easy kill. But when players picked up Halo 3, they got very upset when they weren't getting there kills the way they wanted them. Because in Halo 3 MP, you have to lead your shots, putting the tip outside of your reticle on the enemy will ensure a better leading shot.

  • 07.03.2008 2:01 AM PDT

i was playin matchmaking the other day team slayer BR's was the game type (or something like that) and me and my buds just blew these kids away i mean they were the typical AR noob autimaticlly switching to the AR the second they spawn but anyway i just want to state the I think the BR is Clearly a better gun for many reasons first it takes 4 clean shotz to kill someone secnd the AR empties a whole clip almost

  • 07.03.2008 5:06 AM PDT

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You mean I have to acctuly have skill to use the BR competivly? Who would have thought that the point and shoot of old was such a fan boy crutch? One weapon that is the end all be all of weapons? So what your saying then is to make the BR just like it was in Halo 2. reduce the amout of spawn locations and increase the spawn time. This way its as fair for casual gamer as well as the "PRO".

I mean what developer wants to sell only 15,000 coppies when they can sell 15,000,000.

  • 07.03.2008 5:31 AM PDT

Posted by: monkey29
You mean I have to acctuly have skill to use the BR competivly? Who would have thought that the point and shoot of old was such a fan boy crutch? One weapon that is the end all be all of weapons? So what your saying then is to make the BR just like it was in Halo 2. reduce the amout of spawn locations and increase the spawn time. This way its as fair for casual gamer as well as the "PRO".

I mean what developer wants to sell only 15,000 coppies when they can sell 15,000,000.


Your example of sales figures would really only be appropraite if they were contemplating the BR before Halo 3 came out. If they alter the BR now, I highly doubt that people would suddenly begin to stop buying halo.

Like I said, I don't want the BR to be like it was in Halo 2. What would be more ideal is that the spread is tightened just enough so that the BR works at its intended range, which is mid range. Fully tightening the spread would result in basically a 4-shot sniper with a shorter scope distance. Slightly tightening the spread would result in the BR performing consistantly at mid range, without turning into an over powered sniper-esque weapon.

  • 07.03.2008 5:49 AM PDT

Posted by: BakedPotatoLive
The AR is intended to work best at a short range, the BR at a mid range and the Sniper at a long range. Fully tightening the BR spread would make it perform like a Sniper Rifle, albeit a little weaker. Fully tightening the AR spread would make it perform like a Sniper Rifle also, albeit a little weaker then if the BR was tightened. I for one do not want the BR to perform like a Sniper Rifle. I would welcome it, but all I want is for the BR to work at its intended range, which is mid range. As of now, the spread of the AR suits short range perfectly, the spread of the Sniper Rifle suits long range perfectly, but the BR is not as effective at mid range as a sniper is at long range, which is the cause of the problem. I don't want a spread like we see in the Sniper Rifle, that's ludicrous. The BR would just become a four shot Sniper Rifle. No, what I would prefer is to see the BR spread tightened just enough so that it works properly at its intended range, which as of now, it doesn't.

That's pretty much the case. If only all the other supplicants could put it as reasonably and thoughtfully as that. I kind of agree. Sometimes it takes 4 shots, sometimes 7. It's hard to plan what to do when you don't know the outcome.

We will never see it happen. This thread is the graveyard for BR patch ideas. Bungie wants the front page covered with 'Eleetz in SWat' and other such scintillating topics, and this will probably never be looked at apart from to ban a few people.

  • 07.03.2008 5:51 AM PDT

Posted by: RhythmKiller
That's pretty much the case. If only all the other supplicants could put it as reasonably and thoughtfully as that. I kind of agree. Sometimes it takes 4 shots, sometimes 7. It's hard to plan what to do when you don't know the outcome.

We will never see it happen. This thread is the graveyard for BR patch ideas. Bungie wants the front page covered with 'Eleetz in SWat' and other such scintillating topics, and this will probably never be looked at apart from to ban a few people.


I mean, I know if I was a game developer, I would prefer to read about the life and times of a level 17 captain who has a distaste towards Elites in SWAT instead of reading productive, intelligent discussion on a crucial issue.

Seriously though, I agree with your inconsistant point. 4 shot, 5 shot, 7 shot? What will it be? You can never tell for sure, and instead of the battle being determined by the player with the most precise shot, it is instead being determined by a random generated value, which has no place in gaming, let alone competitive gaming. I don't see why these Bnet kids are fine with leaving these random outcomes - probably because they don't use the BR as frequently as the MLG community, ut those Bnet kids who deny the existence of the problem are just as ignorant as Bungie are for not acknowledging the problem.

  • 07.03.2008 5:59 AM PDT

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Posted by: BakedPotatoLive
Oh? So you would rather threads about "Elites in SWOT", "Cold Storage is the new _____", "What is DoubleXP" and "shuld i tebag lolol1!1" to threads that encourage productive discussion?
I would prefer that to the harassing SPAM the BRats were posting.

Every day new people come to B.net. They need to learn the ropes like everyone else has before them. Imagine what a new member must think when they come into a forum polluted with "BR is broken topics" and Phishing spam that wastes their time.

I don't think I'll be able to enjoy baked potatoes like I used to.

  • 07.03.2008 6:14 AM PDT

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Posted by: RhythmKillerThis thread is the graveyard for BR patch ideas. Bungie wants the front page covered with 'Eleetz in SWat' and other such scintillating topics, and this will probably never be looked at apart from to ban a few people.Attract the flys and then SWAT them. Brilliant idea. Bungie should follow your advice. LOL

  • 07.03.2008 6:18 AM PDT

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Posted by: BakedPotatoLive
Oh? So you would rather threads about "Elites in SWOT", "Cold Storage is the new _____", "What is DoubleXP" and "shuld i tebag lolol1!1" to threads that encourage productive discussion?
I would prefer that to the harassing SPAM the BRats were posting.

Every day new people come to B.net. They need to learn the ropes like everyone else has before them. Imagine what a new member must think when they come into a forum polluted with "BR is broken topics" and Phishing spam that wastes their time.

I don't think I'll be able to enjoy baked potatoes like I used to.


Phishing spam? I don't know about anyone else, but just because I belive the BR needs to be fixed, doesn't mean I'm trying to steal people's passwords and account details. If you meant something else, please clarify.

BRats? Is that meant to be some sort of insult? I love my BR, it is the only weapon in the game worth possessing without feeling dirty when a kill is achieved (Sniper Rifle excluded). I have no problem with you associating me with the BR, but a rat? How about I create a cynical name for the AR loving masses - ARnoob. Haha, aren't I creative?

People come to Bungie every day, correct. I award you 10 points for that statement. But still, if they want to learn the ropes then they can read the FAQ and Forum Rules, which I doubt many people actually do. I don't see how mindless dribble on T-Bagging, speculation about the new map packs or even linking people to pathetic YouTube videos is more productive then intelligent discussion to 'newbies", be it about the BR or otherwise.

  • 07.03.2008 6:25 AM PDT
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Anybody that wants the AR spread tighter is an idiot. The assault rifle isn't supposed to be a headshot weapon, IT DOESN'T REGISTER HEADSHOTS, therefore by having the spread tighter it would make it even stronger than it is now. If you use it properly, on lan, you can beat a BR at almost any range.

Just look at it, it will beat any weapon at its INTENDED DISTANCE. The battle rifle however, will not beat any weapon at its intended distance due to the spread.

Tightening the spread will not throw off the sandbox, since the AR is already over powered.

[Edited on 07.03.2008 6:31 AM PDT]

  • 07.03.2008 6:30 AM PDT

Posted by: ST CheezHead
Just look at it, it will beat any weapon at its INTENDED DISTANCE. The battle rifle however, will not beat any weapon at its intended distance due to the spread.


Basically, yeah. Bungie have said that the BR is working as intended, so I guess that must mean an inconsistant, random weapon that doesn't perform at its intended range.

  • 07.03.2008 6:34 AM PDT

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Posted by: BakedPotatoLive
Phishing spam? I don't know about anyone else, but just because I belive the BR needs to be fixed, doesn't mean I'm trying to steal people's passwords and account details. If you meant something else, please clarify.
Sorry to phish you off your beloved topic.

I meant the high incidence of nuisance (phishing) topics created right after the big BR topics were locked. Not password theft.

  • 07.03.2008 6:36 AM PDT