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Multiplayer Gameplay
Halo:CE------------------Reach--------Halo2-----------------H alo3
Campaign Experience
Reach----Halo:CE-----------------ODST-----Halo2---------Halo3
Glad that Halo 3 garbage is dead, thanks to Reach.
Unfreakenbelievable!!
Posted by: The Shepherd214
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Thanks for reading.
your post eventually does not make any sense. At times you are arguing for consistent fundamentals and at other times you argue for changing dynamics in Halo 3, contradicting your arguments for consistency. Maybe you didnt intend this but it is presented in that way.Sarcasm Alert!!
Halo 3 for me is fine. Yes, i have some complaints, who doesnt with any video game. But Halo 3 does much more good than bad.
No more super, i-can-easily-shoot-you-across-Coagulation BR's
Players spawn with 2 frags instead of 4 which means less nade spamming
the needler is useful in MP
No more BXR's or super jumps
Sniper is slower and the shots must be lead slightly on moving targets.
etc etc etcThese are the things that I and others hated about Halo 2:
Cheaters, Standbyers, etc ----- for Halo 3, Fixed
unintended Hiding spots ------- for Halo 3, somewhat Fixed
Super Jumps ---------------------- for Halo 3, Fixed
BxR, etc Glitches ------------- I never noticed the issue, but... for Halo 3, eventually Fixed
Overpowered Vehicles ---------- for Halo 3, only partly Fixed by adding more weapons
useless Needler ------------------ for Halo 3, Fixed
Plasma Pistol ---------------------- for Halo 3, Fixed. Is actually fun to use now
Overpowered use of Sword ---- for Halo 3, Fixed
Grenade spamming ------------- for Halo 3, Fixed I suppose
Too much auto-aim -------------- for Halo 3, Fixed a little
SMG spawns ---------------------- for Halo 3 MM, attempted at Fixing with the AR, but failed
lack of BR spawns --------------- for Halo 3 MM, still lacking
BR as a burst-fire weapon ----- for Halo 3, actually far worse
BR spread (only complained by the "OMGz, where did he BR me from" people) ----- for Halo 3, still an issue and now with more complaints from the "OMGz, the BR is random" people
Well, at the moment, these are all the issues that I could think of. At least Bungie understands the problems, for the most part. They, unfortunately, will never resolve the BR issues because of their current poor design direction they take towards the weapon. BTW, Halo:CE had rarely any of these issues. The only problems with Halo:CE were a few unintended hiding spots (but were hard to pull off), some glitches, and M6D starts were the only way to have a balanced experience with a normal game.
Halo 3 is the creme of the crop of FPS's in terms of balance and fairness. Its an amazing game which you fail to realize.Actually, Halo 3 in its Default state is the worst balanced game out of all the shooters. It is its customization that gives it the ability to become the most balanced and fair gaming experience. But, even then it is not all that balanced. I would say Shadowrun is probably the most balanced for Multiplayer, with Gears1&2 and COD4 also being more balanced. Halo:CE with Pro settings is another good example of what balanced feels like.
Bungie suffers because they chose to have a strong and consistent interaction with their fanbase. COD, Vegas, Battlefield, etc all of their fans do not dissect the game the way halo 3's fans do because the devs do not have as strong interaction with their community. Bungie will respnd to most criticisms while other game devs do not. I guess sadly that is the consequences for tryong to keep in touch with a community.
All in all, Halo 3's "problems" are nothing compared to the horrible problems that COD has, but people do not dissect COD because of what i said above. People nag because its Halo, of course.Actually, Halo gets dissected more than the other games, because of how awesome Halo:CE was. They miss that same experience and believe that's how Halo should be. Halo 3 is so far from what we had with Halo:CE, and that is somewhat of a disappointment.
And, Bungie doesn't respond to criticism very well. They have not fixed anything wrong with Halo 3, yet, which is the truth. They think their game was perfect out of the box. The only real update, the Melee "fix," didn't fix anything. It just changed the game a little making Melees take less skill. I take that back...M6G as a secondary was an improvement, but even then they failed to implement that into Objectives. I can't remember all the real gameplay "fixes," but I think they are just a glitch fix and M6G secondary for only Slayers. That's about it.
EPIC is an example of who takes criticism well. They released probably one of the most unfinished games I have ever seen, and they are fixing and updating EVERYTHING. They are actually trying to fix balance issues, lag, and anything that their fans find annoying compared to how Gears1 was.
Bungie listens to anybody that they agree with, usually those who support what they do. The only group of the Halo community that really tries to propose improvements to gameplay is the competitive/hardcore gamers. Everyone else is satisfied with the game or proposes unrealistic changes. Versus EPIC listens to all complaints, usually the hardcore gamers. Hardcore gamers are the ones that are usually the ones who find the flaws and propose changes since they care about the game more than the usual "casual" gamer.
I don't have much experience with the COD community, but I have been playing COD4 a lot lately and find it extremely enjoyable. The learning curve is greater, so it takes a while to stop sucking, but I know people who stopped playing Halo 3 to play COD4, including me. I have heard much complaint about COD:WAW, but not much from COD4. Maybe you can enlighten me on the supposed issues that are worse than Halo 3. The guns shoot randomly, some guns are easier kills than others, some of the perks are noobish, and Grenade spamming and spawns can be annoying. Sounds similar to Halo 3's problems. However, the flow of the game is better than Halo 3. Also, there isn't much of a "weapon advantage" gameplay, like Halo 2&3, due to the fact that enemies die quickly.
There are so many more things I find frustrating with Halo 3 than I do with the other games. I even find Gears2 more enjoyable, even with massive lag, and that was an unfinished product. Unfortunately, to Bungie, their game is perfect.
Of course, all of this is opinion. But, I have a considerable amount of experience with these other games, so I deserve to speak it.
[Edited on 02.09.2009 10:09 AM PST]