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Subject: The Only BR Thread

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Glad that Halo 3 garbage is dead, thanks to Reach.
Unfreakenbelievable!!

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Hmmm, weird. I know a person here on B.net who's GT is the exact same as your B.net log-in. You guys should be friends. He's one of the few people other than my sexy self that calls the pistol in H3 the M6G.

Very interesting and completely relative to this discussion...

~B.B.
Hahaha. You caught me. I have been away from my computer on vacation for the week, and signed into another computer, where I had previously signed into with a different account, SepticonWarrior (my GT). I didn't even realize it. That's kind of funny that you noticed it way before I did. So, ya, SepticonWarrior=Jiggly and Jiggly=SepticonWarrior.

  • 03.20.2009 2:21 PM PDT

i love the BR but dont like the AR ='{

  • 03.21.2009 12:37 PM PDT

Alright bungie explained to us why they change the BR, which imo, was for the worst. I took away whatever individual skill halo 2 and made halo 3 a game that relies on team shooting. But why didn't they keep it like halo 1? That games mulitplayer was balanaced and awesome. Why fix something if it isnt broke?

  • 03.21.2009 4:45 PM PDT

I DESPISE the BR. I hate it so much i want to throw the whole halo 3 disk at my TV. the BR is like a drop of dye in a cup of water, only the dye is made of monkey pee and orphan blood. i hate it so much that whenever i get killed by someone with a BR i make a huge rip in my favorite article of clothing(but not really.) the BR is so awful. Here's some reasons why.
-It's the only weapon you have to "Lead your target" with. EVERY OTHER WEAPON IN HALO doesn't require that, except the needler-and only a little.

-It's only in MM as a starting weapon because wussies from Halo 2 couldn't take it that their precious battle rifle was gone and they had to learn to use the AR. So they whined and whined and got it back.

-Have you ever seen a game where you start with a carbine??? no. because-again-bungie only has BR start games because noobs whined about the AR. You can't even program a game to start players with the carbine.

And guess what? the AR haters still aren't happy. they claim that "the BR is bugged" and "Bungie made it too weak!!!" i am sick and tired of BRs. Period.
EDIT:
and hold up, professor professional. No, i do not "Suck" with the BR. I do a decent job with it. but it just sucks. AR fights are funner! it takes reaction time and focus to find your enemy and start shooting before they find you, instead of shooting at someone from across the map while they look around, trying to find you. but once they do, it's already too late.
and then you complain about how an AR user comes up behind you and scores an easy kill. wow, what could possibly be a solution there? maybe you could USE THE ASSAULT RIFLE. In halo 2, there were only BRs. But Bungie can't satisfy everyone. However, this only makes things worse because the AR and BR just don't mix. After all, i don't want orphan blood in my delicious, moist, yellow cake.
in conclusion, I HATE THE BR EVEN MORE.

[Edited on 03.21.2009 7:04 PM PDT]

  • 03.21.2009 6:53 PM PDT
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Not one single thing is wrong with the BR.

  • 03.21.2009 8:53 PM PDT

Posted by: soterious
I DESPISE the BR. I hate it so much i want to throw the whole halo 3 disk at my TV. the BR is like a drop of dye in a cup of water, only the dye is made of monkey pee and orphan blood. i hate it so much that whenever i get killed by someone with a BR i make a huge rip in my favorite article of clothing(but not really.) the BR is so awful. Here's some reasons why.
-It's the only weapon you have to "Lead your target" with. EVERY OTHER WEAPON IN HALO doesn't require that, except the needler-and only a little.

-It's only in MM as a starting weapon because wussies from Halo 2 couldn't take it that their precious battle rifle was gone and they had to learn to use the AR. So they whined and whined and got it back.

-Have you ever seen a game where you start with a carbine??? no. because-again-bungie only has BR start games because noobs whined about the AR. You can't even program a game to start players with the carbine.

And guess what? the AR haters still aren't happy. they claim that "the BR is bugged" and "Bungie made it too weak!!!" i am sick and tired of BRs. Period.
EDIT:
and hold up, professor professional. No, i do not "Suck" with the BR. I do a decent job with it. but it just sucks. AR fights are funner! it takes reaction time and focus to find your enemy and start shooting before they find you, instead of shooting at someone from across the map while they look around, trying to find you. but once they do, it's already too late.
and then you complain about how an AR user comes up behind you and scores an easy kill. wow, what could possibly be a solution there? maybe you could USE THE ASSAULT RIFLE. In halo 2, there were only BRs. But Bungie can't satisfy everyone. However, this only makes things worse because the AR and BR just don't mix. After all, i don't want orphan blood in my delicious, moist, yellow cake.
in conclusion, I HATE THE BR EVEN MORE.


What? AR fights take more skill, all you have to do is spray at someone with the AR and you get a kill. Its probably one of the easier weapons in the game to get a kill with.

  • 03.22.2009 1:07 AM PDT

Theres only one thing that can really make the BR better....
And that would be pasting infant panda bear stickers on the right side.
Other then that, its about as great as any other weapon, based on player skill with the weapon compared to their others....

  • 03.22.2009 1:42 AM PDT

"all you have to do is spray at them"? really? well, maybe you could stop being a baby and learn to spray back if it's so easy.

  • 03.22.2009 1:53 AM PDT

Posted by: soterious
"all you have to do is spray at them"? really? well, maybe you could stop being a baby and learn to spray back if it's so easy.

Great Job! I'm glad the AR takes more skill then the BR.

  • 03.22.2009 2:12 AM PDT

Why dont people appreciate what Bungie does for them and play the game without complaining? I know this is only my 2nd post and nobody knows me around here and I only really started playing Halo3 about a month or so ago, but really, give Bungie a break and take it out on other players in the game, not verbally of course, just shoot em up a lil bit or start a forge game with some friends and attempt to turn them upside down :P
Happy Gaming

  • 03.22.2009 3:47 AM PDT

i like to think of my concentrated rage cannon to be aimed at the battle rifle and you guys. I don't blame bungie. I blame the community for whining and whining to bring the BR back and wanting more from it even though bringing it back is a stretch.

  • 03.22.2009 4:00 AM PDT

Per Audacia Ad Astra

I want to see two people fight. But here's the catch; one has an Assault Rifle, the other has a Battle Rifle. Neither of them have grenades.

Who would win?

  • 03.22.2009 6:10 AM PDT

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It depends on the range, and the skill of the two players. It isn't that hard to beat the AR with a BR, or beat a BR with an AR, it depends on who is smarter. You Either backpedal with the BR or Rush with the AR, and if the person with the BR already started backpedaling, DON'T RUN STRAIGHT AT HIM, move around and fire in bursts.

  • 03.22.2009 8:50 AM PDT

Multiplayer Gameplay
Halo:CE------------------Reach--------Halo2-----------------H alo3
Campaign Experience
Reach----Halo:CE-----------------ODST-----Halo2---------Halo3

Glad that Halo 3 garbage is dead, thanks to Reach.
Unfreakenbelievable!!

I need to comment on a few points you frantically splurged upon into this lovely forum. BTW, I heard smelling citrus fruit can help with your distress.

Posted by: soterious
I DESPISE the BR. I hate it so much i want to throw the whole halo 3 disk at my TV.
Sounds like you're more upset with its functionality rather than that it exists.

-It's the only weapon you have to "Lead your target" with. EVERY OTHER WEAPON IN HALO doesn't require that, except the needler-and only a little.Completely false. Actually, the BR has very fast bullet speed compared to some weapons like the Plasma Rifle and Spiker. It requires less leading than both the AR and M6G Magnum as well. All weapons require you to lead your targets. (Obviously, the Sniper and Lasor require the least amount.)

-It's only in MM as a starting weapon because wussies from Halo 2 couldn't take it that their precious battle rifle was gone and they had to learn to use the AR. So they whined and whined and got it back.I'm a little unsure about what you are rambling about. But, the reason any of us, you included, play Halo 3 is because of the popularity of Halo:CE and its M6D Pistol awesomeness. The BR in Halo 2 was a replacement for the joy that the M6D gave us. Now, they kept the BR for Halo 3. And, just because you intend that Halo should only be played with AR starts doesn't mean Bungie intends it that way. BR starts are in MM, because there are quite a lot of individuals who prefer that style of gameplay.

-Have you ever seen a game where you start with a carbine??? no. because-again-bungie only has BR start games because noobs whined about the AR. You can't even program a game to start players with the carbine.I'm not sure exactly what went down when the "starting weapon" options were designed, but the Carbine pretty much has the same range and kill speed. The BR and Carbine are not much different. The only big difference is that the Carbine is very ineffective against Snipers.

In halo 2, there were only BRs.Nope. The H2 BR was used the most due to dual-wielding and close-range combat being limited to...well...close-range, and the fact that headshots in Halo is the most effective tactic. But, let me assure you that other weapons were definitely used. It is true that in SMG starts that the team with BR control usually won, which is the same as how it was in AR starts in Halo:CE with the M6D. However, the only weapons that weren't really used all that much (well, that didn't get you kills much) were dual-wielding weapons, with exception of the overpowered Plasma Pistol.

But Bungie can't satisfy everyone.The reason why they widened the spread of the BR was because they were trying to satisfy everyone for Halo 3. They still can't make everyone completely happy, though, because there are those who prefer precision and single-shot, headshot capable weapons and there are those who prefer random spray, pray, and melee weapons.

However, this only makes things worse because the AR and BR just don't mix.I found that the AR and M6D mixed very well in Halo:CE.

After all, i don't want orphan blood in my delicious, moist, yellow cake.I don't know, that sounds actually quite tasty.

in conclusion, I HATE THE BR EVEN MORE.In conclusion, you should probably play a different game, like SSBB. FPSs usually have a great deal of mid-range fights with headshots being an advantage toward winning a fight.

But, if you continue to play this game, smell some delicious citrus fruit to calm your out-of-control raging self down.

  • 03.22.2009 6:14 PM PDT

The BR is very good the way it is. I don't know what people complain about. <3 BR.

  • 03.22.2009 7:47 PM PDT
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The problem i have with it is.. If people did that trick that makes your NAT -blam!- up or their just lagging then its like 8 burst a shot which is practicly instant kill. But other then that its bad-ass.

  • 03.22.2009 9:32 PM PDT

lol i bet "jiggly luv" is so mad right now.
burn, BR user, burn with rage!!!!!!!!!!!!
i was completely exaggerating because i LOVE to rant.
but you're genuinely PO'd... i can FEEL IT coming off my monitor.

  • 03.23.2009 4:58 PM PDT

Why Wassup

i like the br its created by ar

  • 03.23.2009 5:25 PM PDT

Multiplayer Gameplay
Halo:CE------------------Reach--------Halo2-----------------H alo3
Campaign Experience
Reach----Halo:CE-----------------ODST-----Halo2---------Halo3

Glad that Halo 3 garbage is dead, thanks to Reach.
Unfreakenbelievable!!

Posted by: soterious
lol i bet "jiggly luv" is so mad right now.
burn, BR user, burn with rage!!!!!!!!!!!!
i was completely exaggerating because i LOVE to rant.
but you're genuinely PO'd... i can FEEL IT coming off my monitor.
Nah. I just got a good chuckle out of your post, and decided to break it down. I've been PO'd before on this forum, and I usually just try to ignore posts that do that. Your post definitely did not give me a sense of exasperation. (btw, I hate the BR, for its functionality. I am more of a Magnum fan.)

  • 03.23.2009 6:16 PM PDT
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Well mostly bad kids post here anyway, so of course 95% of the kids will say "I like t3h Beearrr! it r fine how is"

Because they are horrible and were still bad in Halo 2.

Seriously, Bungie has pretty much ruined Halo 3, the skill gap is SOO small its pretty ridiculous.

I mean come on, I know bungie says "we want it more community friendly" blah blah, well, youve made this game easy enough for a Semi retarded grand mother to play.

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Well mostly bad kids post here anyway, so of course 95% of the kids will say "I like t3h Beearrr! it r fine how is"

Because they are horrible and were still bad in Halo 2.

Seriously, Bungie has pretty much ruined Halo 3, the skill gap is SOO small its pretty ridiculous.

I mean come on, I know bungie says "we want it more community friendly" blah blah, well, youve made this game easy enough for a Semi retarded grand mother to play.



Lol, I totally agree.

  • 03.23.2009 8:06 PM PDT
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my semi retarded grandmother favours the sword over everything else. deadly she is. cares not for the BR

  • 03.24.2009 6:38 AM PDT

The BR is fine the way it is,
Decreasing it's spread increases it's range, which would result in more spawn kills and less snipers.
Upping it's damage would cause it to be more effective in close range, lowering the use and effectiveness of all other CQB weapons.

Adding in button combos.... would be just a terrible idea. It would result in the BR being a close range, mid-range, and far range death machine.

The whole "everybody knew the combos" argument is BS, only a small minority looked up the combos (or learned from their friends), and only an even smaller minority used them on a regular basis.
Jeez, most people don't even memorize button combos included in manuals, unless it is an absolute necessity.
How many people know all of the special moves for every character in Mortal Kombat?

  • 03.24.2009 1:02 PM PDT

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The BR is fine the way it is,
Decreasing it's spread increases it's range, which would result in more spawn kills and less snipers.
Upping it's damage would cause it to be more effective in close range, lowering the use and effectiveness of all other CQB weapons.

Adding in button combos.... would be just a terrible idea. It would result in the BR being a close range, mid-range, and far range death machine.

The whole "everybody knew the combos" argument is BS, only a small minority looked up the combos (or learned from their friends), and only an even smaller minority used them on a regular basis.
Jeez, most people don't even memorize button combos included in manuals, unless it is an absolute necessity.
How many people know all of the special moves for every character in Mortal Kombat?


did you even play halo 2? or go in the THC playlist once? Its not hard to memorize BXR and BXB, and half the time you dont even have to think about using them because they are so easy. And those werent even "combos" they were button glitches. No one is asking for there to be glitches in halo 3, although they added a more indepth gameplay imo. We are asking for a more effective BR, because as of now with the terrible netcode in this game, the BR is useless at long range unless you are team bring, and you have to lead your shots when someone is 10 feet away. It also takes 4 shots to kill someone who has no shields that is running away. Then "bullet return" is another issue, when someone is no shields and you put 3 shots in him, and he runs away scot free, and you see your bullets return back to your ammo slots, meaning the game didnt register any of those shots, is unexcusable. there is a video of this of this happening over a LAN connection, which is unspeakable in not only a non-competitive environment, but a tournament environment. And since this is happening on LAN, this problem is much worse over Xbox Live. Ill post videos of this later.

  • 03.24.2009 2:27 PM PDT