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Unfreakenbelievable!!
Normally I would resist in replying to posts with such flawed logic and completely biased statements, but this post just simply made me ROTFL. I'm not here to flame, but sorry if I offend anyone in advance. And most of what I post will be fact, in case you're wondering.
Posted by: MOOdapiller
BR vs ARThe topic is interesting, but it is also over-discussed. I'd rather see M6G vs AR posts...at least that way the effectiveness of both weapons can be compared.
BR has scope. Ar has binoculars like every other gun w/o scope.And now we know. And knowing is half the battle.
Br can kill 3 peoples in 1 clip, AR can kill 2.The BR has 36 rounds/magazine, which means that it does indeed allow for 3 kills per clip since it kills in 12 rounds. However, since that only includes kills with a headshot and the 4-shot range is quite limited, it is realistically only 2 kills per clip. Noone in the right mind will ever get 3 4-shot kills in one clip. And, with body shots, which means 18 rounds per kill, there are only 2 kills per clip, and a 1 kill per clip with all body shots if a random bullet misses.
The AR, on the other hand, has 32 rounds/magazine, which means that it does indeed allow for 2 kills per clip since it kills in 16 rounds. However, since the AR's range is limited, it realistically only allows for 1 kill per clip.
With Grenades and Melees, this is different for both weapons.
people say the Br spreads too much, well the Ar spreads more if u don't pump.This is true...very true.
a pumped head shot AR can kill a Br faster, but vary few people know this.The AR doesn't have a headshot bonus, so a headshot AR makes you miss more bullets instead. And, the AR only kills faster than the BR, when the opponent is without grenades at close-range.
a Br at long range will kill an AR at long range/ (excluding children who suffer from mental defficiencys or lack of thumbs.)This is true...very true. Especially about the not having thumbs part.
the Br can kill the AR at close range too as long as u can aim, if u say its harder, you suck at the Br you should give up for sucking so much with your best weapon.Actually, you can't kill an AR-wielder with a BR at close-range, unless you are assisted by a Grenade or teammate or the classic Melee+Headshot.
the BR can be shortcutes in its reload animation, the AR can not.This is false...very false.
the Ar can shot smack faster than the BR but keep in mind if your bringing a BR into a close ranged area, your either a noob, or a BR whore and need to put it away for a damn second instead of be soo damn reliant of your equpment to win. Actually, "noobs" would not be using a BR in the first place, because they are oblivious about the fact that the BR is more effective. And, a "BR whore," as you so put it, would be using the BR for good reasons. With Grenades, the BR beats everything. It is also a very good team-weapon. When I die at close-range with a BR, it is because of 3 things: lag, no grenades, and got surprised unprepared to fight. However, if someone is out of Grenades, they should definitely use another weapon when going in for a close-ranged fight...they would be dumb to do otherwise. (And, as a Male, I rely on my equipment all the time. : )
u can say i suck based on my scores and career status, but i know im better because i never uses no one weapon for my wins, i pick what ever weapon is in front of me (excluding the plasma pistol.)So, let me get this right...you are better because you use no one weapon and you pick up whatever is in front of you. That really has nothing to do with skill. It has to do with how you use those other weapons. Teams who tend to carry BRs more will have easier wins since that weapon isn't as limited as much as the others. Does that mean they suck even though they won? No. They used the weapons more wisely.
And, if your scores or career stats are poor like you make them out to be, then maybe you shouldn't rely so much on close-ranged weapons which limit how good you can do in a game. And, if you are good at the game, which is most likely the case, then using the BR more could improve your stats. But, if you prefer to use harder weapons like the M6G, or Carbine (which is more limited to when you can use it), over the BR, then more power to you. I, for one, no longer need to pick up a BR, unless it's Objective, because I have my trusty Magnum.
BTW, I use the Plasma Pistol frequently, even in BR starts. The weapon is very effective, if you use it correctly. But, I suppose it may be too hard for you since it requires leading.
WHY? because its takes skill to use the weapon closest to you as aposed to gaining weapon control to win.So, you support BR starts, then? I doubt it, but by saying that you oppose gaining weapon control to win, which btw isn't just the BR, you imply that you are a mid-ranged, headshot capable weapon (like the BR) start supporter.
And, hate to break it to you, but close-ranged battles actually decrease the skill gap. This doesn't mean that it can't be skillful. Close range is just a danger zone for death. The better player will always have a greater chance at dieing within this range as compared to mid to long range. This goes for fighting in general.
i like to chalange Br with SMg's and pistols, why? because if your good they actualy kill faster.Only within a certain range and dual-wielded. But, the M6G only kills faster if it is dual-wielded with a plasma-based weapon. Even dual M6Gs kill slower than a normal BR, and with less range. However, I do indeed use the M6G frequently (though only singled. I dislike dualing) and am very successful against other BR users. But, that's because I have a consistent 5-shot and the BR usually ends up being a 5-shot anyway.
i use the carbine as my long range, because when i kill i know it was my aim not my spray that killed them, and once again it kills faster if your good.Well, to be fair, if you miss, its fast rate of fire will save you. With the BR, that isn't the case, nor is it with the M6G Magnum. But, the BR does indeed allow for kills based on its wide spread (though only against unshielded enemies). On the other hand, I have been known to accidentally betray my teammate because of the M6G's random bullets, and the same goes for the Carbine. They are all random, which means the spread can save your poor aim sometimes.
the Br is not the strongest nor fastest weapon in the game, but it is by far the easiest to you, because all weapons have a catch, you have to learn multiple skills to use most weapons
rocket: aim + leading is essential
sniper: aiming(large) + no-scoping is essential
laser: aiming + precharging is essential
SMG: aiming + pumping (note few know about pumping)
pistol: aiming with an extremely under-handed auto-aim
spiker: aiming +leading
needler: aiming + leading
sword: aiming(little) +timing + radar reading
shotgun: aiming(little) + radar reading
AR: aiming + beat-down timing + pumping
BR: aiming(more than little, but less than normal)
as u can see, the BR only requiers one skill that is learned easy! if you say its hard to learn how to aim the BR you are probably a newbie at FPS. if your not, you probably have a thumb dissorder or mental dissorder, if not, you just plain suck!Your flaw with this logic is that close-ranged weapons are limited to close-range. Yes, the BR is the easiest to use at mid-range, well simply because it is one of only 3 weapons designed for it. Killing close-range-wielders with a BR is indeed easy at mid and long ranges.
And, of course this list is also biased. To be good with the BR it requires motion (strafing and jumping), timing, aiming (as in for bodyshots and headshots), awareness of radar and map, grenade throwing, and meleeing. All the weapons require about the same amount of skills, excluding aiming for the head.
i don't like the BR because it does not requireme to work at all for my kill. there is no fun, it is just who sees who first, and d-one. no chalange. nothing. and thats not what halo is about, halo is about showmanship, about sportsmanship.How did "sportsmanship" make it into this post?
Anyway, this is opinion, so there is no right or wrong. But, I will say this, though...the BR having a random spread decreases the amount of "who sees who first" gameplay. This is mainly because a bullet tends to miss a lot due to randomness. In Halo2, this gameplay was due to the BR's 3-bullet burst and a huge amount of magnetism/auto-aim. In Halo:CE, against good players this was sometimes the case due to the magnetism/auto-aim, but you could also dodge the bullet since it didn't have 2 other bullets that could potentially hit you.
What made Halo great for me, was the feeling I got while using the M6D Pistol. Everytime I killed someone or died I knew that it was because of my aim. And, single-shot headshots seem to be so satisfying, which is kind of why I dislike the current design of the BR and the design of the H2 BR, and why I prefer to use the M6G over the BR.
WHEW! That was a mouthfull of goodness.
Posted by: Shadow Wolf7347
quoted for being epically correctThank you for the laugh. That made my day.
[Edited on 03.29.2009 2:27 AM PDT]