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Posted by: Jiggly Luv
Sorry, I have been gone a while (and still am), but I'll go ahead and make a few comments on this really quick. I'll edit or post more if I think something else to say, when I get back tomorrow night.
EDIT: Ok, I'm back. I didn't really change any of my post, though.
Posted by: MOOdapiller
Posted by: Air Sparrow
[quote]Posted by: Jiggly Luv
This test that I performed proves that the BR actually kills slightly quicker than the Carbine; this does not include the use of a modded controller.
The testing procedure was as follows: 5 tests per weapon, lowest and highest values dropped for the sake of human imperfection, the average of the middle 3 tests. The testing medium was as follows: on top-mid of Guardian, against an AFK user at nose-to-nose range, on a split-screen local connection.
BR ( 4-shot kill )
:01.514
Carbine ( 8-shot kill )
:01.550
M6G Magnum ( 5-shot kill )
:01.889
As you can see from the testing data, the Carbine is indeed slower than the BR at close-range. Take note that the times listed were rounded to the nearest 1000th of a second. Also, notice that the Magnum as a 5-shot is only about .4 seconds slower than the BR's 4-shot.
One cool stat is that if you calculate the RoF speed, you will find that the BR's and M6G's RoF is accurately the same. I found that extremely interesting, considering how many complaints there are regarding the M6G's slow RoF.
Now, that this is settled, it is up to the player to decide which weapon they find more enjoyable to use. I, personally, like using the Carbine more than the BR, but that has to do with its single-shot functionality more than anything.
Hopefully, this test cleared up the whole "BR vs. Carbine" debate.
Have a good day. : )
I don't have anything to say to that. Other than the fact that I've tested this with a few friends over Live on Guardian in the top center of the map. Now we would stand facing each other and begin shooting at the same time, the Carbine would always come out on top up to a range of the distance across the entire center platform. Further than that though and it would miss shots and be beaten.
But that's just my experience, it could just be lag causing it for all I know.
Also I believe that the Carbine is a 7 shot kill.
the Carbine does kill faster than the BR his data is wrong or maybe he just has a slow trigger finger from using the Br so much. the magnum is not that much slower than the other either but it is the slowest. unless you duel wield the pistols then it is 7 head shots with the duals but u shoot two at a time making it 4 head shots instead of 5. then the pistol kills faster than the BR, but i never compaird it to the carbine...First of all, don't state that my data is wrong when you clearly have no data of yourself to back it up. The only way you can prove that my test is wrong is to test it yourself.
Second of all, I thought the Carbine was a 7 shot too, until I checked it out. Unless my counting was awful at the time, it was a 8 shot. Check that out for yourself, and if you count 7 shots then don't hesitate to let me know. But, until then, it is an 8-shot.
Now...regarding the test. It was done at point-blank range, meaning there was no bullets missing due to randomness and human error. When you increase the range, the chances of a BR bullet missing becomes greater since the aim will not be perfect and the randomness will affect things. At a certain point, which may be the distance of top-mid of Guardian as was tested by you, Sparrow, the Carbine is easier to land all the shots even with human error as compared to the BR. However, once you are passed where the Carbine is consistent it will begin to miss, and then the BR becomes more easier. But, the Carbine is hit or miss versus the BR will continue to hit over time. Overall, the speed at which your opponent will die is not that much different "within a certain range." But, of course, at certain longer ranges the BR is easier since at least one bullet will most of the time.
Also, I tried firing the Carbine as fast as I can, it would not allow my to fire beyond its maximum fastest RoF, which apparently it had. Maybe it was my controller, though it was quite new. But, please don't question my testing until you have done a similar test for yourself. And, I'm not saying the Carbine is a slower kill. I'm saying that the Carbine is a slower kill when the shots are "close to perfect" aim within the BR 4-shot range.
Now...regarding the M6G and dualing them. The M6G Magnum has a slightly slower Rate of fire than the BR. It isn't that much slower, but it is definitely slower. When dualing the RoF does not change. The only things that change is that the M6Gs get a decrease in power to balance it out better and you are able to alternate shots if one pleases. The downside is that you won't be able to use grenades. Anyway, when dualing with a M6G, the sole purpose of that weapon is to give you headshot capabilities. For example, deciding to dual M6Gs instead of running over a few steps to the Plasma Rifle on Guardian is a little foolish, unless of course you would rather dual M6Gs or are just too lazy to go out of your way. I do agree that the M6G should get a clip size increase. (FYI: the Manual says the M6G has a clip size of 12, but the game has it as 8)
I will still use a single M6G over dualing them, anyday. That's my style, and that's what I find enjoyable.
(sorry for any misunderstandings with what I just typed. I did not reread this as I usually do)[/quot ]
FYi i can say your data is wrong because i have tested it my self,
and for everyone else. i cant belive nun of you have tested out the BR's 4 shot kill when the aimer is off the head, i have a video of me 4 shoting someone 1 on 1, and mid range where my aimer is not leading but the opposite, it is infact trailing behinde, and when you review the video. i only hit his head with 1 bullet of the burst three times. and my last shot landed all 3 bullets. and still got a 4 shot kill. you dont need to land all three bullets every time. thats what makes the BR overpowered. u can mis and still kill.
the carbine has a lighter autom aim than te BR making it harder to aim, and u have to keep a consistant head shot or else you miss shots, unlike the BR where u shoot once, and have a half a second to reposition your head shot.
kthnxbai.
edit: the quote didnt work sorrys, i musta deleted sumtin'
[Edited on 04.06.2009 12:31 PM PDT]