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Posted by: mooshmoossh
I like the BR just the way it is.

I really don't see what's wrong with it.



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  • 04.30.2009 2:10 PM PDT

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i wish they only had br starts and have like the assualt rifle as a secondary! dont u guys agree?

  • 04.30.2009 7:11 PM PDT

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Posted by: iFurio
i wish they only had br starts and have like the assualt rifle as a secondary! dont u guys agree?


I agree cuz the BR is way better than the AR

  • 04.30.2009 8:40 PM PDT
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Its called Team Br's o_o

  • 04.30.2009 10:29 PM PDT

Thinking about it... a more consistent BR would be nice.
The spread should limit the range the same, but if it spread nearly the same way every time, such as each bullet going slightly higher then the next, then no harm done.

I say nearly because a small amount of randomness would keep the BR from becoming a mid-long range weapon.
Example: 1st Bullet goes straight 2nd goes about .05 degrees up (relative to the first shot) with a 25% chance of going .02 degrees to the left or right, 3rd goes the same direction as the second, just .004 degrees higher.

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Posted by: JUICEHEAD3311
The BR is fine if you dont like it dont use it its as simple as that.


Thank you! Plainly stated, the constant complaints about "omg that hacker keeps killing me with a BR!!!! WAHHHH!" aggravates every remotely skilled player in the community.

  • 05.01.2009 4:35 PM PDT

Were it so easy.

I love the design of the BR's body, it's attractive and realistic as well as futureistic looking.

  • 05.02.2009 12:04 AM PDT

I love BR and if it was the only weapon I would be happy. Maybe all BRs and a couple power weapons to mix it up

  • 05.02.2009 7:07 AM PDT
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Magnums funner

  • 05.02.2009 12:11 PM PDT

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BR is the good just the way it is and it pwnz forever.

  • 05.02.2009 7:25 PM PDT
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Well come on guys it isn't about the multiplayer its about the story. What has master chief used this whole time to kick covenent butt? The assault rifle!

I am a fan of the battle rifle, but I think they should have a separite BR's playlist for it or a double EXP weekend for it.


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  • 05.02.2009 8:10 PM PDT
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PS dont talk crap about the AR. its awesome possum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 05.02.2009 8:14 PM PDT
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whats BR stand for?

  • 05.02.2009 9:27 PM PDT

Posted by: Shadow Wolf7347
Magnums funner


only if you actually have an skill in aiming, (nobody who used the BR)

everyone who uses a Br thinks the pistol is broken because you cant shoot across the map, and you actually have to hit the head (unlike the Br where the aimer only needs to be in the same general direction.)

also because you have to reload after every fight, unlike the Br where you can kill 3 enemies with 1 clip.

and finally, because the pistol has little to none aim assistant. unlike the Br which pulls your aimer so you can theoreticly play with only the staiffing analog.

  • 05.02.2009 11:55 PM PDT
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I personaly think that the BR is a flat out all purpose weapon. I have to agree with everything Scotty said back there. kind of personaly but at least he is honest. Bungie made it a brillant idea to retune it. Like everyone says, it takes skill to use. Not just anyone can pick it up, fire away, and expect kills. I mean it beats having a power weapon instead with a couple of grenades and good hand-eye coordination. Bottom line is, Halo's signature weapon is the BR period.

  • 05.03.2009 4:44 AM PDT
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Posted by: MuffinMan116
whats BR stand for?


BR stands for battle rifle bro

  • 05.03.2009 9:54 AM PDT
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Now look, the br is an awesome weapon to have but the main weapon of halo? that would make the game unfair to most people. It takes countlaess hours to master, and not everyone has the same opinion as you guys about techniques. I still think the assault rifle should be the main weapon of halo because everyone will have a good weapon at the beginning of the game and it also cant zoom so everybody isn't just starting out with overkills.

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Could people stop posting in this thread if they are going to say things like "BRs ARE -blam!-!!!!111one!" "BRs are for stupid MLG PLAYERS!!"

This thread should be an intelligent discussion not a bunch of flame directed towards one another due to our opinions.

The battle rifle makes Halo 3 fun in my opinion. The assault Rifle is appealing to casual players of halo because it takes little to know skill to use, for the battle rifle you need precise aim and a steady thumb, this is why I like the battle rifle more than the assault rifle.

  • 05.03.2009 7:18 PM PDT
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Posted by: SCOTTY OWNS U
For People Whining:

Ok, if you people actually read the entire Weekly Update you would Realize that there is a good reason for Bungie not taking your suggestions and changing back the BR. In Halo 2 the Battle Riffle Would beat out every weapon, because it is good at close range, medium range
and long range. In halo 3 the design team wanted it to be fair, because it was realized in Halo 2 that it is too good. So for halo 3 they wanted things more balanced (in my opinion). So they Gave it less power at long and short range, making it the still the best medium range weapon (my opinion).

This is What I think you should do:

For all of the people that whining they probably want the Halo 2 BR back. And those people who are whining about wanting the Halo 2 BR had to get used to the Halo 2 BR by Playing Halo 2? And Halo 2 and Halo 3 are two Different Games within the same series. You if you are Whining 7bout the BR it is your fault for switching to a new game. If you want the halo 2 BR than play halo 2. It is that simple. And Different games are meant to be different, so they will have differences, the changes in the Battle Riffle are just one of the many changes between the games in the Halo Series. And like any other new game you start playing, you aren't going to be the best at it when you start, so you just have to play Halo 3 with the Battle Riffle at Medium Range the way it is meant to be used in HALO 3, not the way it was used in halo 2. Also like in any other new game you start to play, you have to play and practice to get good at it. The same thing goes for the BR. So just get used to it and practice with it at medium range the way it it said the be used at.

Shorter Version for the People that Still Don't Understand:

The people whining got used to the halo 2 br when they played halo 2 so just get used to the halo 3 br now that you know how to use it. You guys are practically blaming Bungie for making a weapon in the game you play.

Another Argument

They people whining / complaining usually claim to be MLG. If they are MLG they should be able to get a kill with almost any weapon nonetheless. So they should also be able to get a kill with the halo 3 BR. So you are just another poser if you claim to be MLG and are still whining about the halo 3 BR because you cant get a kill with it even though you claim to be MLG.

Another Argument:

Most of the people that also whine about wanting the Halo 2 BR back also say "Bungie Never Takes Suggestions?" Haven't anybody read the Code of Conduct : You have no rights, Play nice. Theres one point of this. But Bungie actually does take suggestions such as. The melee glitch, Griffball Double Exp Weekends, Team Snipers Double Exp Weekends, Bungie.Net Avatars, Bungie.net User Skins, Bungie.net Themes. And many more things that Bungie gets from suggestions.. You guys are too busy wanting an "Ulimate Weapon". Think about that... Now that you know the facts behind the Halo 2 Br you know it is good at any range making it unbeatable. Think of Bungie's Point of View, Somebody is saying. "Can we have the Halo 2 Br back so we can an unbeatable weapon??" Think about it. Now don't tell me that it sounds a little stupid. And Yes They do take suggestions.

Posted by: Timtaztix
I don't want the BR to be accurate I want it to be consistent. Sometimes it shoots differently than an opponent's, and this makes luck a factor. Halo 3 should be about skill, not luck. Don't flame me until you've read everything.

Bungie's excuse for not "fixing" the BR is that they don't want the BR to become the all-powerful Godly weapon that it was in Halo 2.

The BR in Halo 2 was Godly because:
-Button combos
-Tight spread
-The BR was a hitscan weapon
-The BR was extremely consistent

In Halo 3, there are no button combos, there is a huge spread, it is inconsistent, and it is not a hitscan weapon. Obviously, the BR is a lot less effective now than it was in Halo 2.

Bungie apparently thinks that we request the BR to be returned to its former state from Halo 2. No Bungie, not at all. You have misunderstood what the main problem is.

The BR is ridiculously inconsistent

Leave the spread as is, just take away the random tendencies! The problem is that sometimes my BR has an accurate burst, and sometimes it has an inaccurate burst. What if I'm in a 1-on-1 BR fight, and my BR shoots randomly wider and his shoots randomly tighter. My opponent will win the fight not because of his aiming skills, but because his shot more accurately than mine. Even though my reticule was on his head, and his was on mine, I lose the fight because of the random tendencies.

So, in conclusion, I suggest that Bungie removes the random tendencies of the BR's burst. This means that:

-It will still have a wide spread
-It will still not be a hitscan weapon (You must still lead shots)
-Still no button combos
-Consistent! This is the only change...making the burst consistent. This way, the only advantage one player will have over another is skill. Luck should not be a factor in a competitive game.

This way the BR is still not accurate enough to snipe, and not accurate enough to guarantee a perfect 4-shot every time...but it will remain this way for everyone and not just the lucky will win.

If everyone's BR performs the same, every time, even if the spread isn't perfect, it is a balanced weapon. Right now the winner of a BR fight depends on lucky spread, and I want the winner to rely on skill. Not luck.

Post here if you agree with me, and be mature about it. No flaming unless you've read the entire post.


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Argument:

In this statement the OP has all of the Halo 2 facts completely correct. But think about it, Yes, it is was completely consistent. And if that is what you are asking for in halo 3 then it would still be the Ultimate weapon. Think about it. What other weapon is completely consistent in Halo 3 Besides the Spartan Laser and Sniper Riffle (Said by Luke)? AR Bullets Fly everywhere. Needlers fly off anywhere, Rockets can be shot off by an explosion, Spikers don't lock on, Shotguns shoot multiple bullets. I really cannot think of another weapon that is completely consistent in hitting all of its shots. I also Think you may be exaggerating when you say ridiculously because if I am correct on my math and I read the many math equations correctly by JonnyOthan then only one one the 3 bullets is going to be inaccurate out of the three. You also talk about a 1 vs 1 BR duel. Think about this situation too. Once again if I am correct on reading the math equations then one out of the three bullets will not hit. So if you think about that there is a 66.7% (Rounded) change that it will be accurate and a 34.3% chance that one bullet out of the 3 will miss. That is not even a 50% chance! Which brings me to the Final facts of this argument that Only two weapons (that I'm 100% sure on) are 100% accurate. So why should the BR? This question brings us the Real Life Sniper vs the Real Life Battle Riffle. In Real life not every BR weapon is going to hit the exact target. A real life Sniper bullet will hit the exact target. So that equation is correct. So what is so what is so bad about a 34.3% chance of having 1 bullet miss when almost every other weapon will do the same or worse. The last thing in this argument, in a 1 on 1 br duel you will most likley to have the same outcome for both players.

(I know I probably got some facts wrong in there but C'mon you gotta admit that is had to argue against!)


Please Don't spam me telling me I don't know what I'm saying.

This is just my opinion on you should look at the BR changes from Halo 2 to Halo 3.


AND. That was just for the People WHINING. Honestly I like the Halo 3 BR better tahn the H2 one.

I know others have my same opinion, My top posts were for Whiners not people with my opinion.



What do you think of my opinion?

And if I have any facts wrong please tell me and I shall fix.

Discuss nicley...


READ MY ENTIRE POST, I'm not complaining.

I am not complaining, I am telling people that do complain how to deal with it and some facts and opinions behind it.
wow you have no life typing all that, you could just say that the BR in halo 3 is more fair than the BR in halo 2 except the consistency!

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wow you have no life typing all that, you could just say that the BR in halo 3 is more fair than the BR in halo 2 except the consistency!

Wow, maybe because when posting on forums you should take time in your responses, a post should take longer to write and have more in-depth discussion than the previous.

Ignorant kids like you give these forums a bad name.

  • 05.03.2009 7:48 PM PDT

the ONLY problem i have ever had with the BR is the rate of fire when your connection isn't as good as your attacker.
my example is if you even have one notch off while playing a perfect (or relatively close) connection. their hits seem to register just a tid bit faster,
thats not to say thats bungie's problem and of all games i've played, none have ever tried so hard to eliminate host advantage more than Bungie, Which is why i LOVE you guys.
THANKS :)

  • 05.04.2009 1:31 AM PDT

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Posted by: i love lamp1
br spread = FAIL


This.

A more accurate BR would actually make players who are already bad with it worse. If your even a fraction off the target in H2 your bullets will absolutely not hit. The instant the reticule isn't red your probably not going to hit a single bullet.

All these people who don't understand think that by decreasing the size of the spread you are making the br into a sniper rifle... but that's not true. As long as there is a spread the BR can never even be compared to a sniper. You should get rewarded for accuracy, not hope to get lucky when you miss a shot. I know if I'm half off my target with my reticule, there is still a good chance that all the bullets will hit the target. In H2 if I was the same amount off I would be lucky to hit with 1 bullet out of the three.

Just saying.

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Posted by: H3ll JUMPER90
the ONLY problem i have ever had with the BR is the rate of fire when your connection isn't as good as your attacker.
my example is if you even have one notch off while playing a perfect (or relatively close) connection. their hits seem to register just a tid bit faster,
thats not to say thats bungie's problem and of all games i've played, none have ever tried so hard to eliminate host advantage more than Bungie, Which is why i LOVE you guys.
THANKS :)


True but you could technically make this case with any weapon, a bad connection/host can add a delay of shot registration for any weapon.

  • 05.04.2009 3:01 PM PDT

Welcome to Thunderdome!!!!!!!

I never liked the BR at first, but with a little practice it's now my favorite weapon!

  • 05.04.2009 4:35 PM PDT