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Subject: The Only BR Thread

Posted by: I BEATD0WN I
Why the hell do so many people talk about the BR?

Damn.

Perhaps if you had taken the time to actually read some of this thread before posting you would know...

Seriously, it's like 90% of the people who post here don't realize why this thread was created in the first place.

[Edited on 06.08.2009 8:50 AM PDT]

  • 06.08.2009 8:48 AM PDT
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Three-thousand-nine-hundred-FIRST!

lolz

I <3 the BR just fine the way it is.

  • 06.08.2009 9:51 AM PDT

The next person to assume I am talking about ranked, do us all a favor and look at what I play!

Vijay, the BR in MLG fires quickly because they turned up the game speed or something like that.Maybe they turn up the playback speed.

  • 06.08.2009 1:21 PM PDT

Multiplayer Gameplay
Halo:CE------------------Reach--------Halo2-----------------H alo3
Campaign Experience
Reach----Halo:CE-----------------ODST-----Halo2---------Halo3

Glad that Halo 3 garbage is dead, thanks to Reach.
Unfreakenbelievable!!

Posted by: mortabunt
Vijay, the BR in MLG fires quickly because they turned up the game speed or something like that.Maybe they turn up the playback speed.
That's odd. I was unaware that you could speed up the RoF of weapons. : )

You are probably finding yourself getting killed quickly because when two people are shooting you, you die quicker. It happens. Also, if you are wounded still from a fight, you can be 3-shotted which can bring some confusion.

And for video playback, if you are referring to watching it through MLGPro or something. Those are recorded from the LIVE showings. So they aren't changing the video in any way.

[Edited on 06.08.2009 1:28 PM PDT]

  • 06.08.2009 1:26 PM PDT

Some day I sell DNA.

The BR doesn't really need to be changed.

  • 06.08.2009 3:36 PM PDT

yeah, but they should fix the spread on the missile pod.
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  • 06.08.2009 5:21 PM PDT

i like the BR in halo 3 a lot more than in halo 2... less glitches and no quad shotting

  • 06.08.2009 8:40 PM PDT

BRs fine. people just -blam!- about it cause sometimes theres lag during matches and they dont get a 4 shot. its their fault for having a wal-mart connection.

  • 06.08.2009 10:44 PM PDT
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Posted by: JapAmerican126
i agree. use the AR U NOOBZ!!!

what?

BRifle is the way to go. what post are you replying to?

  • 06.09.2009 2:57 AM PDT
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Posted by: Alfirin
Posted by: JapAmerican126
i agree. use the AR U NOOBZ!!!

BRifle is the way to go.

Both of you have it wrong.

Saying to use either over the other is like saying you should use rockets over a needler. Different weapons have different advantages and disadvantages, making them useful in different scenarios than one another.

No weapon is better than the next.

  • 06.09.2009 11:21 AM PDT
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Posted by: cto888
Different weapons have different advantages and disadvantages, making them useful in different scenarios than one another.

So in what scenario is the ARifle better than the BRifle?

  • 06.09.2009 12:45 PM PDT

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Close quarters, frag and clearing, that kinda stuff

  • 06.09.2009 1:20 PM PDT
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teh br is such a brken piece of sh1t its unbelivable

  • 06.09.2009 1:27 PM PDT
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i hate it becouse it lacks power

  • 06.09.2009 3:35 PM PDT
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The BR is fine, if you can't get a 4-6 shot at most every time with it, YOU ARE A NOOB!

  • 06.09.2009 5:44 PM PDT
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i like the br alot but every gun has its defects is it best used body body body head or just the head shots

  • 06.09.2009 8:42 PM PDT

In my opinion, the developers went wrong when they decided the BR should be less accurate than it was in Halo 2. A spartan doesn't get worse. This was my greatest disappointment with Halo 3; and it was a pretty big one, one that made literally 9 of my friends that played Halo 2 with me and attended MLGs for Halo 2 quit after less than two months.

Just as a background for how big this BR disappointment was:
Me and my buddies live in Indy, we LANed with decently big names in the world of Halo 2 and competed at multiple MLGs. Some of the old names include Butters, Scrub Twista, Stronside, Elamite Warrior, and Snipedown (who was on my Halo 2 team 'Team Toxic Shock' with xx f8, had3s, myself, and snipedown). These people competed at local tournaments at ToxCity and in a place in Terre Haute. Indy and the region had a huge Halo 2 following, seeing that people came from Kentucky (Strongside) and the Chicago area and northern Indiana (Butters). Most of these pros kept playing, but there was just something about Halo 3 that wasn't fun.

The reason for the disappointment:
It was the fact that on a LAN we were seeing people have literally perfect aim not 4-shotting other people. We went over video of both xboxes over probably a hundred different BR fights in question and came to the conclusion that the BR simply wasn't very accurate. Knowing this and the frustration that someone could literally have perfect aim, and the RNG (random number generation) of the battle rifle spread could cause the player with perfect aim to lose a BR fight, caused extreme disappointment in Halo 3.

The result:
During the Halo 2 era. There were 25 Halo 2 tournaments a year. This includes FFA, 4v4, and 2v2 tourneys. Some were sponsored by Game Stop and 99% of them were held at ToxCity in Indy. During the Halo 3 era, there was a small amount of tournaments during the first two months. Then they died off and now there are 0 Halo 3 tourneys held. It wasn't the fact that everyone stopped playing Halo 3 altogether, but all the best players did. I am one of the few that did not stop. I can count the players that didn't stop playing (Halo 3) on one hand, whereas I had attended tourneys (Halo 2) with 60+ people, some Game Stop sponsored tourneys had over 100. All of people that I used to enjoy Halo 2 with stopped playing because of the battle rifle's inaccuracy.

My thoughts:
The BR needs to be more accurate. First, its the 26th century, you would think that kick back would be eliminated by then. Second, its in the hands of a spartan, someone that can flip a multi-ton Scorpion, but cannot keep a BR steady. Third, you can't have a weapon like the BR, the most favored weapon in Halo, go from being as accurate as it was to as inaccurate as it became. Competitive gaming is what has kept Halo alive for so long, and the fact that BR is in its current state I think hurts Halo as a whole. There would be multiplied thousands more people playing Halo 3 if the BR were more accurate. People that quit during the transition from Halo2 to Halo 3 would still be playing, and playing a lot.

Halo 3's success:
Now I do agree, Halo 3 has had quite a success. Most of that I believe comes from the incredible matchmaking system that Halo 3 has. It could be better, but hands down it is the best matchmaking system in the world. I believe that for Halo 3 to keep thriving it needs to go back to more of a Halo 2 style of play, in terms of the BR. The auto-aim that is currently in Halo 3, is far better as it actually takes skill to use a weapon instead of auto-aim basically locking onto people for you.

Conclusion:
Halo 3 has a few things that need fixing. But the one this thread is about is the BR. The BR needs to become more accurate, there shouldn't be anyone that can legitimately say they had perfect aim and lost a BR fight.

  • 06.09.2009 10:03 PM PDT

Multiplayer Gameplay
Halo:CE------------------Reach--------Halo2-----------------H alo3
Campaign Experience
Reach----Halo:CE-----------------ODST-----Halo2---------Halo3

Glad that Halo 3 garbage is dead, thanks to Reach.
Unfreakenbelievable!!

I understand the feeling, Not Thor. Most of my friends kind of got Halo'd out toward the beginning of Halo 3. The lone friend that still played finally got fed up with it and quit.

I do however, disagree slightly that Halo needs to get back to Halo 2's style. I would prefer that it took a step further even and get back to Halo:CE's style of play. Except there is one thing we are forgetting...Bungie, the game's developer, never really had those styles as Default (which could be why some of it has been lost, and why there is such a biased opinion toward MLG). Still to this day, I don't understand why Bungie left out a BR start variant for CTF, etc. in the Halo 2 and 3 set of game variants. It really never made sense, since Slayer Pro/CTF Pro were most common during my Halo:CE days.

All you can do is look toward the future, with Halo:Reach. In order to fit within this game's progression, you would think that all the weapons will be even more accurate than Halo:CE's, since it comes first in the story. But, let's pray that they don't work from Halo 3's features and balance the Multiplayer even further into the wrong direction.

BTW, Red Faction:Guerrilla is a very fun game. If you're Halo'd out, it's definitely a game to check out.

  • 06.09.2009 10:31 PM PDT
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Posted by: Jiggly Luv
BTW, Red Faction:Guerrilla is a very fun game. If you're Halo'd out, it's definitely a game to check out.


^this

even if youre not out halod go get it

its pure win

  • 06.09.2009 11:46 PM PDT

Posted by: halo Reach FTW
Posted by: Jiggly Luv
BTW, Red Faction:Guerrilla is a very fun game. If you're Halo'd out, it's definitely a game to check out.


^this

even if youre not out halod go get it

its pure win


What is Red Faction:Guerrilla?

  • 06.10.2009 4:31 AM PDT

Every weapon in Halo3 must have weaknesses the BR has its weaknesses lik it cant be used close range but must be used for medium range and must aim for the head to ensure full damage to the opposition team and this is totally relevant to nayone who plays SWAT.

  • 06.10.2009 4:45 AM PDT
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Even though the Brs one weakness is that it is not close range, this can be countered by
1. backing up and shooting at the head
2. 1 well placed grenade and a headshot is a kill
3. being able to switch to a close range wepon [which is why you usualy spawn with an assult rifle]

  • 06.10.2009 6:01 AM PDT

Does this box make me sound like i care what you think?

the Br is the best gun in the game plus with the sniper its a beast combo thats my opinion

  • 06.10.2009 11:26 AM PDT

Usually an encounter with an AR ends with the BR guy being 2 shotted and lunged at with an AR. I usually back up and strafe all I can. The BR is terrible when someone has crappy host, it takes 5, 6 even 7 shots to the head to kill. Ridiculous..

  • 06.10.2009 2:16 PM PDT