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MY LOVE FOR YOU IS LIKE A TRUCK...
Posted by: Langley
--on another note, I think MLG Chewhatever is an idiot.
Posted by: Achronos
There is a reason I am user ID 1 and my account creation date is before this site came online.
Posted by: BakedPotatoLive
No it doesn't.
Actually it does. Weee..this is fun.
Really? The BR works at this range? That's really weird since there seems to be a harmonious uproar from a significant portion of the community. What other gamertags do you have Berserker Barage? I'd like to see them. Your biased, anti-MLG opinion makes me question the integrity of your argument - are you simply choosing to not accept that there isn't a problem?
One, it's not harmonious. I've seen people that consider themselves "competitive" gamers who don't have a problem with the BR spread. I've seen people that consider themselves "casual" gamers who don't have a problem with the BR spread. And the "uproar" isn't coming from a "significant portion of the community". That was flippin' hilarious when you said that. You would be an MLG kid who thinks that their "community" is a "significant portion". You guys just don't seem to get it. You aren't a significant part of the community. You're a vocal minority. One that is getting annoying.
There ISN'T a problem. You have a problem. I'm not choosing to "not accept that there is a problem"; I'm telling you that there isn't a problem. I have 7 separate Gamertags, do you want links to all of them? I'm sure I actually have more than 10k BR kills, that was a purposefully low estimate.
Where have you shown me why I was wrong? A plethora of times I have presented my argument towards the tightening of the BR spread, I disproved your argument of tightening the AR spread, yet you chose to ignore this and instead pick certain parts of my argument to rebut.
You are for removing the BR spread but you aren't for removing the AR spread. The argument you're trying to utilize would apply to both of them. You are saying that the BR spread should be removed because battles are being won because of randomness and not skill. The same thing is true for the Assault Rifle. IMO, the Assault Rifle does not fulfill it's role properly right now. The gun has really become a "fire short burst and melee". This is problematic because if that's the AR's supposed role it is getting easily beat by shotguns, maulers, etc. IMO the AR should be a weapon that works well at the 10-12WU distance (short distance) but it doesn't. It takes a whole clip to kill from this distance and half the times you can't and have to reload.
Again, tightening the spread would do little to solve your complaint. The BR spread is essentially a scalar measure. Without being a vector, it will always be random and unpredictable. Tightening the spread would not stop "battles from being won by luck instead of skill".
What account did you get said kills on? How about you tell me why it isn't broken before claiming the debate as yours? Here's a tip. Try to actually rebut my whole argument instead of ignoring certain parts. You made your outrageous claims comparing the tightening of the AR spread and the BR spread, I rebut said claims and you ignored my rebuttal. So, for your convenience I will link you to my rebuttal. Try and say something about it before attacking my perceptions.
Again, do you want the links to all 7 of my gamertags? I'll be happy to PM them to you. The BR isn't broken because it fulfills it's role in Halo 3's weapon balance. It works at "medium" range. The spread is mitigated when you are within 18WUs away. Outside of this range the spread begins to take effect and limit the effectiveness of the weapon in order to balance it. Same thing is true of the Assault Rifle. Outside of a very short distance the Assault Rifle starts to lose effectiveness because of Bullet Spread. If you don't want the game to be determined by bullet spread you would have to remove it from the: Assault Rifle, Battle Rifle, and Shotgun. All of these weapons have bullet spread that limit their effectiveness past a certain distance. To claim that the Battle Rifle is broken because of this aspect while not saying the same for the Assault Rifle or Shotgun is incorrect. Your perception is that the H3 Battle Rifle should kill in 4 shots consistently. I fail to see where this stipulated anywhere by Bungie.
Posted by: BakedPotatoLive
I don't know why you keep bringing up this point, firstly the AR works perfectly at its intended range as it is know. If anything, it is overpowered as of now.
I disagree. I don't feel that the AR works perfectly at it's intended distance. I feel that the AR spread keeps the weapon to only a weapon that can be used in team with the melee. But at the same time I understand that if Bungie had not put bullet spread on the AR it would be an increasingly powerful weapon that would overpower many others. Just like removing bullet spread would make the BR an increasingly powerful weapon that overpowers many others.
Besides, if you did get your full-aut AR-sniper, the recoil would be too much to utilise it properly over a long range. All we ask is for the BR to work at its intended range, because as of now, it doesn't. Tightening the spread of either the AR or BR to the precision of the Sniper is ludicrous. No, all we ask is for the Battle Rifle to perform consistently at a medium range, because as of now, combat is being determined by luck, and luck is a poor substitute for skill.
Apparently you have no problem with combat being determined by luck because you don't oppose bullet spread on either the Assault Rifle or the Shotgun. The BR does perform consistently at medium range when you look at what Bungie considers "medium range". Again, it seems that your problem is that the Battle Rifle doesn't operate consistently at what YOU consider middle range. That's still your problem as it always has been.
Oh, and stop misquoting Tyson Green. It's a pathetic attempt at an argument. I can take quotes out of context and use them too. I don't because it would make me look idiotic.
~B.B.