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Subject: The Only BR Thread

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Posted by: fenlon
THE BR KD Spread Is +1337
Leave the br alone. its fine the way it is


no it's minus 9000

  • 09.19.2009 1:45 PM PDT

The BR is fine, I love it.
but the AR, jeez in games when i start with an AR i just use a pistol and i still out AR people.
things just take practice

  • 09.19.2009 3:26 PM PDT

O hai.

My siggy.

Posted by: xSepnovax
Ok, just a quick reminder for everyone here. Halo was supposed to be a FPS that played well on consoles. When Halo 1 was made, the PC shooters dominated the market. Now of course PC shooters are better and well balanced compared to Halo1, 2, OR 3. But the fact of the matter is Halo is popular because it managed to dumb down the standard FPS and make it accessible for console kids. So to clear up some problems here;

1. There is no balance in Halo 3. If there was, any gun could beat any other gun with the determining factor being who is actually better at the game.

2. There was NEVER balance in any Halo game period, though I will say Halo 2 was as close to balanced as it got.

3. Fixing the BR and every other weapon for that matter, won't fix the horrible net coding that causes such randomness during gameplay. Bungie seeks to make a game for lulz. Not to give the nod to skilled kids. Whining about it doesn't help.

4. If you don't like Halo 3, there are PLENTY of alternatives. Quit being an rtard and find one.

5. FPS on console don't get much better than H3 to be honest. COD4 has so much aim assist that it will actually MAKE you miss. UT3 has hardly anyone playing it now and I don't blame them. That whole game is ruined by Epic's addition of auto-centering.

6. Halo will never be balanced. Bungie would have to COMPLETELY redesign every weapon in the game to do so. Games like Halo show exactly why you don't make guns for single-player without thinking about multi-player.

7. As for everyone that thinks they are good and the BR sucks. Congrats. You are good at a simplified console shooter that takes about as much skill as mowing around a bush.

8. FINALLY, as for the BR, every weapon is broken because they are not hitscan. Competitive shooters use hitscan. So there for Halo 3 is not a competitive shooter. I recommend a port to the Source engine. Then the real skill will come out.



First off, lemme say that I MOSTLY agree with you.

except number 8.

Do you know exactly what hitscan is? It makes for INSANELY unrealistic games. Basically there are no actual bullets in the game, but just flying lines of code. They instantly travel where they are coded to, with no trigger lag,no gravity, and speed-of-light speeds. The only accuracy factor is spread, otherwise it works like a sniper rifle youll never need to lead.

How does that make for a better shooter? IMO it makes shooters MUCH worse. I'm an avid Team Fortress 2 player, and my hugest complaint is that almost all the guns in it use hitscan, it makes the sniper involve almost no skill at all, just point, shoot, instant hit. No leading neccesary.


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  • 09.19.2009 3:34 PM PDT

Chocolate milk is FTW and you know it

Carbine is better!

  • 09.19.2009 7:48 PM PDT
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a reply dbsuicide: to same here man same here but the zoom isn't all that great though could have done a 4x zoom but that's the only prob for me but the br is still my best wepoen for me any way.

[Edited on 09.19.2009 8:20 PM PDT]

  • 09.19.2009 8:19 PM PDT

Posted by: Dallas Green
I make a legitimate thread on the most logical choice for the next Bond actor, and you take that away from me by creating a parody thread indirectly connecting my thread to yours.

I hope your kids have bad influences and develop bad personalities. I wish this with all my heart.

I like the new pistol the best. I don't care if it sucks against shields.

  • 09.19.2009 9:05 PM PDT

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  • 09.19.2009 10:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: dpsuicide

First off, lemme say that I MOSTLY agree with you.

except number 8.

Do you know exactly what hitscan is? It makes for INSANELY unrealistic games. Basically there are no actual bullets in the game, but just flying lines of code. They instantly travel where they are coded to, with no trigger lag,no gravity, and speed-of-light speeds. The only accuracy factor is spread, otherwise it works like a sniper rifle youll never need to lead.

How does that make for a better shooter? IMO it makes shooters MUCH worse. I'm an avid Team Fortress 2 player, and my hugest complaint is that almost all the guns in it use hitscan, it makes the sniper involve almost no skill at all, just point, shoot, instant hit. No leading neccesary.


I never said it would make a better shooter, I'm saying Halo 3 is not a competitive shooter because it doesn't use hitscan. Their isn't a game on any PC circuit that is played competitively that doesn't use hitscan. To make matters worse for Halo 3, Bungie does not know how to net code properly. Hitscan may take less skill, but playing a horribly coded game based on pure randomness takes less.

  • 09.20.2009 2:07 AM PDT

It's like Bungie doesn't want me to level up. Everytime I do, they throw me game like objectives in LW or Shotty Snipers in TS. I end up losing my level 2 or more times. Thank you Bungie.

The only "flaw" with the BR would be inability to change the firing modes to single, burst, and auto. Of course, if we were given that option, there would be a whole lot of dead bodies. :P

  • 09.20.2009 2:22 AM PDT
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Auto mag is going 2 b awesome but it's still gonna be fun popping grunt head shots with the BR :D.

  • 09.20.2009 3:55 AM PDT

If everyone loses their cool while you keep yours then you probably don´t understand the situation.

I think the br is pefect as it is.

  • 09.20.2009 11:43 AM PDT
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If you complain about the br your a noob

  • 09.20.2009 12:25 PM PDT
Subject: The Only BR/AR Thread

BR + AR =BARR

  • 09.21.2009 3:04 PM PDT

The next person to assume I am talking about ranked, do us all a favor and look at what I play!

*faceknife.*
I'm strongly pro AR. Look in the Assault Rifle skill theory thread.

  • 09.21.2009 7:06 PM PDT

ANY SPAM WILL RESULT IN A PERMANENT BLOCK.

People should quit whining about the AR. If its such a problem, Shishka would've addressed it by now.

  • 09.21.2009 8:15 PM PDT
Subject: The Only BR Thread
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Thank you

  • 09.21.2009 11:24 PM PDT

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LOL TEH BRAR THREAD ROFLOFLLOFL

  • 09.22.2009 1:20 AM PDT
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I like the BR, no changes.

  • 09.22.2009 12:33 PM PDT
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You know what's cool about BR? It's 4 shot head keelz

  • 09.22.2009 1:45 PM PDT
Subject: The Only BR/AR Thread
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You're Just Another Name, On The Bullet That I Aim

i kinda think that the battle rifle isnt the best gun, before i got halo 3 everybody hyped but i dont see what the big deal is, repeatedly having to press the trigger, it should be auto
but then i spose most people would disagree



AR's all the way!!!

  • 09.24.2009 12:25 AM PDT

Whats wrong with the BR?, Cry me a river guys!!

  • 09.24.2009 5:46 AM PDT
Subject: The Only BR Thread

I never said it would make a better shooter, I'm saying Halo 3 is not a competitive shooter because it doesn't use hitscan. Their isn't a game on any PC circuit that is played competitively that doesn't use hitscan. To make matters worse for Halo 3, Bungie does not know how to net code properly. Hitscan may take less skill, but playing a horribly coded game based on pure randomness takes less.
If we're going to be reasonable about this, most people say that it's leading with the mostly slow traveling weapons that makes games like Quake highly skilled, not the hitscan of doom railgun. Halo 3 effectively has a couple of hitscan weapons in the form of the sniper rifles and spartan laser-the ranges the snipers don't instantly hit at are completely irrelevant to competitive play, and the laser does travel instantly. They're both obscenely overpowered, not entirely coincidentally, although it has more to do with the 1-hit kill at any range and obscenely high supply of sniper rifles and ammo compared to other power weapons.

Also, seriously, stop using this as a +1 thread kids. You aren't required to post LOL BRZ I USE BRZ TO KILLZ when you sign up for Bungie.net, I swear.

  • 09.24.2009 3:44 PM PDT
Subject: The Only BR/AR Thread

Halo 1>Halo 2>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Halo 3

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Please fix the BR bungie. Please

  • 09.24.2009 4:01 PM PDT

Menosgrandeslayr- There is no such thing as a bad player. Everyone is good for something, no matter what!!

The BR and AR are completely capable in their own use in range and damage. They are both balanced. BRs are great at medium range and can kill from a distance, even. BRs to me are good experience behind the trigger. ARs are good for basic situations at a shorter range than BRs. ARs are good at rushing, attacking the enemy at close quarters and then beating them down. This packs quite an attack to the opponent. So, ARs have their strengths in closer ranges and BRs eases the attack for shooting from a distance. They are both quite good when I use them.

  • 09.24.2009 6:22 PM PDT