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Subject: The Only BR Thread

WHY CAN'T YOU FIX THE BR SPREAD IN FORGE!!!!!!! ARRRR NERD RAGE!!!!

The names Eric, but you can call me Rice.

yeah br owns... when you're good with it

i love watching people who don't have skill at using it so they use the assualt rifle and get owned by another person using the br so they themselves go back to using it and get owned again...

'tis great for lols



and why not make an official BR vs AR thread instead?

  • 07.07.2008 11:47 AM PDT

Everything with the BR is fine :) plus im amazing with it

The only issue i could possibly have with it is at higher levels of play i consistently use up all my ammo in MLG because of set-ups, strategies, and just team BRing. It's not as bad in team slayer because you kill rushers and get their's but in MLG you barely die or kill when its really competitive. Maybe expand the clip a lil bit to like 150 and I could destroy even more ppl. Prob won't happen but thanks for listening

  • 07.07.2008 11:49 AM PDT
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This thread was made because of the BR's inconsistency,

And a starting weapon that is inconsistent needs to be fixed.

TIGHTEN THE SPREAD PLEASE

  • 07.07.2008 11:50 AM PDT

Multiplayer Gameplay
Halo:CE------------------Reach--------Halo2-----------------H alo3
Campaign Experience
Reach----Halo:CE-----------------ODST-----Halo2---------Halo3

Glad that Halo 3 garbage is dead, thanks to Reach.
Unfreakenbelievable!!

Posted by: HealingTemp er
i like the br also but sometimes i feel like my bullets dont register when they need 2 i think the h2 br is better then the h3 br

That's because your 3rd bullet occasionally will have a wide spread making it miss and causing less damage when aiming with the center of the reticule on the head. You can't do anything about that. Just blame it on lag like everyone else, or practice more like many keep saying even if its because of the random value. My suggestion is sometimes aim below the head, because you can get headshots pretty much anywhere near the head provided the 3rd bullet sprays above your reticule. I mean you don't have to aim at the head anymore. In fact, aiming at the head can make you miss more sometimes.

BY THE WAY, real-world randomness ONLY exists if something was picked by random. Like when someone picks a card at random or picks a lottery number. Picking a number within a certain range with the use a computer is also randomness, like what is used with all the Halo guns (except Sniper, Sword, etc). When playing poker, chance is used, not randomness, because only the cards at the top are picked.

  • 07.07.2008 11:56 AM PDT

MY LOVE FOR YOU IS LIKE A TRUCK...
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--on another note, I think MLG Chewhatever is an idiot.

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Posted by: ST CheezHead
This thread was made because of the BR's inconsistency,

And a starting weapon that is inconsistent needs to be fixed.

TIGHTEN THE SPREAD PLEASE


Absolutely!! FIX THE AR SPREAD! Make it the full-aut sniper rifle it should be!!

~B.B.

  • 07.07.2008 12:04 PM PDT
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I only read through the first page, but I find many of you users ignorant. The BR spread IS A PROBLEM. Not to long ago there was a test done. A guy made 2 spawn points to ensure distance accuracy, aimed in on the guest's head with a scope, and started shooting him with the BR. The results? First try was a perfect 4 shot, second...5 shots....third...6 shots. How is that SKILL? That is not skill at all. That my friend is just pure luck. Luck=/=Skill, and I do not know when you Bungie kids will not understand this...There is seriously something wrong with the BR and it needs to be fixed. But Bungie will never do it because they cater to all you AR noobs and you guys say it is fine, when in all actuality it is not, and so Bungie just goes around saying it is fine. But how did we as a gaming community that cares about the competative aspect of gaming not forsee this. Bungie has dissapointed us so much in the past (Blackout comes to mind here) that we should come to expect this nonsense. And for all you kids who say "If you don't like it don't use it." THAT IS THE STUPIDEST RESPONSE EVER. That isn't even an argument. If you say that you already admit that you have no idea what you are talking about, or you know that I am right. This community is exactly why I quit Halo 3. If you guys said something about it, Bungie would LISTEN, because they cater to their little noobs. They have dumbed down the competative edge so much in their series that there is practically NO SKILL GAP. Halo 1 was GREAT, competative gamers loved it, casual gamers loved it. But as the series goes on it can only get worse. Why you may ask? Because Bungie tries to appeal to the casual gamer. If they just made Halo 4 look exactly like Halo 1, they would lose most of their income, but it would be their best game yet. They would lose so much money because people like you guys who sit here and patrol these forums think that graphics=good game. That is NOT the case. If you would like to even try to argue with me about this either add my aim[gcthefazegc], my xfire [thefaze] or pm me on these forums. Thanks~

  • 07.07.2008 12:42 PM PDT

When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.

what it all comes down to is,Bungie are just too god damb lazy and naive to fix the BR. they know its broken and to be honest i think they might aswell shut down the forums becuase they dont listen to us. LUCKEMS IS A -blam!- FULLY RETARDED . too -blam!- lazy to fix the BR what a -blam!- he even says on this vid that the brs broken so wtf -http://gameroom.mlgpro.com/view/pFtsSuwjNUo.html

Bungie what happened to the days you acctaully listened to us? i have almost completely abandoned halo 3 after tonight and im going back to halo 2 on my other account because Bungie you are retarded -blam!- U -blam!-s i hope microsoft shuts you -blam!-s down i dont want halo 4 id rather buy a ps3 than buy halo 4 youll probobly respawn with rocket launchers and theyll call it skill. pfft all the respect i had for bungie is gone ... and on BUNGIE DAY .

-blam!- you bungie, -blam!- YOU

flame all you want -blam!-es i wont read it becuase im not coming on this retarded forums again. so flame all you want kids :)

btw the post above me + rep son , you know ur stuff and these -blam!-s will just say omfg i dont notice anything with the br YOU SUCK and then well go onto there service record and there force luitenant 2446 assualt rifle kills 246 br kills 0.45 k/d and they say WE suck -blam!-

[Edited on 07.07.2008 1:15 PM PDT]

  • 07.07.2008 1:13 PM PDT

Posted by: urk
Eat raw meat.
Punch a bear in the face.


If you don't know who I am, the feeling is mutual.

It's already one of the best and most popular weapons around, so I don't understand why people are complaining now about a weapon that [i]never changed since the beginning of Halo 3. Hell, its pratically the same since half way through Halo 2's lifespan. Why now?

Edit: For everyone who says the BR needs to be fixed and is based on luck, wtf? Who honestly cares if your favourite weapon isn't perfect in every way. I use it, and it doesn't explode in my hands when I fire it so it isn't broken. Hell, that wasn't even something you cared about until someone said it was broken.

[Edited on 07.07.2008 1:22 PM PDT]

  • 07.07.2008 1:19 PM PDT

When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.

ok -blam!- it, some people are just to retarded i noticed itwas broken since day one , having to lead shots at 10 yards is just retarded

  • 07.07.2008 1:24 PM PDT

MY LOVE FOR YOU IS LIKE A TRUCK...
Posted by: Langley
--on another note, I think MLG Chewhatever is an idiot.

Posted by: Achronos
There is a reason I am user ID 1 and my account creation date is before this site came online.

Posted by: Jammyd0dger93
what it all comes down to is,Bungie are just too god damb lazy and naive to fix the BR. they know its broken and to be honest i think they might aswell shut down the forums becuase they dont listen to us. LUCKEMS IS A -blam!- FULLY RETARDED . too -blam!- lazy to fix the BR what a -blam!- he even says on this vid that the brs broken so wtf -http://gameroom.mlgpro.com/view/pFtsSuwjNUo.html

Bungie what happened to the days you acctaully listened to us? i have almost completely abandoned halo 3 after tonight and im going back to halo 2 on my other account because Bungie you are retarded -blam!- U -blam!-s i hope microsoft shuts you -blam!-s down i dont want halo 4 id rather buy a ps3 than buy halo 4 youll probobly respawn with rocket launchers and theyll call it skill. pfft all the respect i had for bungie is gone ... and on BUNGIE DAY .

-blam!- you bungie, -blam!- YOU

flame all you want -blam!-es i wont read it becuase im not coming on this retarded forums again. so flame all you want kids :)

btw the post above me + rep son , you know ur stuff and these -blam!-s will just say omfg i dont notice anything with the br YOU SUCK and then well go onto there service record and there force luitenant 2446 assualt rifle kills 246 br kills 0.45 k/d and they say WE suck -blam!-


Another shining example of the MLG community. What the hell is a Force Lieutenant? That sounds awesome though.

Go back and cry to InsanityTest and cT because we'd rather not have you here if you're just going to through pointless tirades.

~B.B.

  • 07.07.2008 1:26 PM PDT

When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.

halo 1 > halo 2 > viva pinyata > halo 3



[Edited on 07.07.2008 1:34 PM PDT]

  • 07.07.2008 1:28 PM PDT
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tighten the spread.

  • 07.07.2008 1:43 PM PDT

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I don't know if anyone has notice but the BR seems to have changed......................

  • 07.07.2008 2:21 PM PDT
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the only thing i think is bad about the BR, is that now in halo 3, it isnt based on if your cross hairs are on the guy, unlike in halo: CE where if your cross hairs were on the Enemy, you would automatically injure that player. The new way is really good for making the game more realistic, but in turn makes the game laggier, because this means every bullet has to be comprehended by the game, and guided to its correct location. Now take how many bullets are shot in 1 game of Big Team Battle, and understand why it is so laggy. I may be a little bit of with some of my explanations, but this is only what i have taken to be true over my years of playing halo.

I hope this helps some people with the "BR spread" question. Yes the br spread does exist, but most of it is because each bullet is guided differently based on how you move the BR.

i think. lol

  • 07.07.2008 4:47 PM PDT
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Why do people only complain about the BR? Many other weapons have preoblems with them also.

Why does the BR have to be perfect? Why do you have to complain about it? Why do you have to use it? I can out BR about 85% of people on my skill level and I can take out just about anyone with just about any weapon if I'm keeping my aim solid. What's wrong with it?!

  • 07.07.2008 6:11 PM PDT
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I like it. It's my tool of destruction in Ranked & Social. The only thing to change is the way how it looks when you hold it.

  • 07.07.2008 6:13 PM PDT
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Posted by: Team Prototyp3
the only thing i think is bad about the BR, is that now in halo 3, it isnt based on if your cross hairs are on the guy, unlike in halo: CE where if your cross hairs were on the Enemy, you would automatically injure that player. The new way is really good for making the game more realistic, but in turn makes the game laggier, because this means every bullet has to be comprehended by the game, and guided to its correct location. Now take how many bullets are shot in 1 game of Big Team Battle, and understand why it is so laggy. I may be a little bit of with some of my explanations, but this is only what i have taken to be true over my years of playing halo.

I hope this helps some people with the "BR spread" question. Yes the br spread does exist, but most of it is because each bullet is guided differently based on how you move the BR.

i think. lol

You obviously didn't play much of CE because you had to lead your shots...This isn't the problem...The problem is the randomness that the spread brings to the game....

  • 07.07.2008 6:25 PM PDT
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Posted by: TheFaze
I only read through the first page, but I find many of you users ignorant. The BR spread IS A PROBLEM. Not to long ago there was a test done. A guy made 2 spawn points to ensure distance accuracy, aimed in on the guest's head with a scope, and started shooting him with the BR. The results? First try was a perfect 4 shot, second...5 shots....third...6 shots. How is that SKILL? That is not skill at all. That my friend is just pure luck. Luck=/=Skill, and I do not know when you Bungie kids will not understand this...There is seriously something wrong with the BR and it needs to be fixed. But Bungie will never do it because they cater to all you AR noobs and you guys say it is fine, when in all actuality it is not, and so Bungie just goes around saying it is fine. But how did we as a gaming community that cares about the competative aspect of gaming not forsee this. Bungie has dissapointed us so much in the past (Blackout comes to mind here) that we should come to expect this nonsense. And for all you kids who say "If you don't like it don't use it." THAT IS THE STUPIDEST RESPONSE EVER. That isn't even an argument. If you say that you already admit that you have no idea what you are talking about, or you know that I am right. This community is exactly why I quit Halo 3. If you guys said something about it, Bungie would LISTEN, because they cater to their little noobs. They have dumbed down the competative edge so much in their series that there is practically NO SKILL GAP. Halo 1 was GREAT, competative gamers loved it, casual gamers loved it. But as the series goes on it can only get worse. Why you may ask? Because Bungie tries to appeal to the casual gamer. If they just made Halo 4 look exactly like Halo 1, they would lose most of their income, but it would be their best game yet. They would lose so much money because people like you guys who sit here and patrol these forums think that graphics=good game. That is NOT the case. If you would like to even try to argue with me about this either add my aim[gcthefazegc], my xfire [thefaze] or pm me on these forums. Thanks~

  • 07.07.2008 6:27 PM PDT

Posted by: BerserkerBarage
Posted by: ST CheezHead
This thread was made because of the BR's inconsistency,

And a starting weapon that is inconsistent needs to be fixed.

TIGHTEN THE SPREAD PLEASE


Absolutely!! FIX THE AR SPREAD! Make it the full-aut sniper rifle it should be!!

~B.B.


Please stop bringing up this point. The AR works at its intended range, the Sniper Rifle works at its intended range. The BR however, does not work at its intended range.

  • 07.07.2008 7:07 PM PDT

So, essentially I'm going to have to say - -blam!- YOU ACHRONOS. Seriously - the incessant screeching about the Br and how it is broken because it has a random spread might tell Bungie something - IT -blam!- NEEDS TO BE FIXED!!!! Essentially what Achronos has said is that "We'll leave all of these epic fail threads that talk about how we need 60606060606060606060 kills before Bungie Day - but we can't have intelligent debate about a flaw in the developer's design of a game that they are fully capable of fixing but are just too lazy and too rich to fix." Good day - after the weekend of July18th - 20th (in which I will be attending an out of province Halo tournament) I will no longer be playing this game, nor will I be buying any more maps nor will I be purchasing Halo Wars / the rumored Halo 4. In fact - I will be asking my friend if I can sell his copy back to the store (I will give him his money of course) just so that the developer received no money from that copy of Halo.

Or Bungie could give two -blam!-s towards the people who actually understand this game / game design in general - and change it. This isn't the -blam!- Wii - where the main target is soccer moms. The Xbox 360 is meant to be a HARDCORE GAMING CONSOLE, just like the PS3 (but who gives a flying -blam!- about the PS3 to be honest). Now show your appreciation for the gamers who played your goddamn Halo:CE up until the release of Halo 2 and give us some respect about our understanding of game design and change the Br so that it is a consistent weapon. Whilst I may not be the best Halo gamer in the world - I can't imagine what it would be like to be the most skilled Halo 1 player, consistent 3 shots, etc. - then all of a sudden every single -blam!- noob in the entire world can consistently kill me.

So, to end this rant, I will quote a certain someone named Cursed Lemon, and just say this "Play Shadowrun".

  • 07.07.2008 7:20 PM PDT

Halo: CE > > Halo 3 > Halo: Reach = Halo 2

Posted by: BerserkerBarage
And yet again, why are people willing to allow randomness with other weapons if they refuse to accept it with the BR? There is bullet spread in the AR, Shotgun, and Mauler and yet I doubt people would be clamoring for Bungie to remove the bullet spread from those weapons. So unless you can give me a better justification than "randomness shouldn't be in H3" then there is nothing wrong with the H3 BR.

~B.B.

Why? Because the AR, Shotty, etc. are not accurate, skill orientated weapons... so we don't care about their spread. We do not duel with these weapons, because doing so is pointless, requires no skills, and flat out is not fun. The BR is the only replacement weapon for the Halo 1 pistol. And having randomness with the BR's spread, takes away the skill and fun from the game.

  • 07.07.2008 7:52 PM PDT
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First off, I'm not quite sad enough to 'diss your stats' because I'm not 12 years old.

Second off, I wasn't bragging, I was simply trying to show that if you can be accurate with the BR then you will have no problem using it.

Sometimes, I hit people 5 times directly in the face and they don't die, but that's just lag or a game problem whatever it is.

Now, I'm not sure whether I said I won all my games, but I meant I haven't lost one.

I'm not a pro, and to be honest, I don't think I'll ever be one. All I want to do is get to level 50, and being 3 levels away is just really annoying, that's why I decided to practice with the BR.

So before you waste your life trying to piss people off, realise you don't actually matter to anyone, because you're not up there with anyone anyway.

I've not looked at your stats but you all you seem to be doing is ranting about technical faults and lag or game metres or some rubbish like that... Just play the game, practice with all weapons, and you won't have a problem will you?

FtS Sickshot BR

P.S. Don't know how to quote, this is to the prick giving me -blam!- about 'bragging'.

[Edited on 07.07.2008 8:40 PM PDT]

  • 07.07.2008 8:40 PM PDT

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It's broken in campaign. Other than that, no complaints about it.

  • 07.07.2008 11:15 PM PDT

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Maybe this is why I'm starting to do badly on SWAT. First it was the melee fix where every hit caused both attackers killed regardless of health, and now this. :(

I really wanted to see a SWAT respawn fix. I hate spawning next to a teammate in combat. I'll spawn and get hit by bullets before I can fire. I want to spawn somewhere safe, where I won't get shot instantly.

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Posted by: GIR091572
Posted by: mooshmoossh
I like the BR just the way it is.

I really don't see what's wrong with it.

I feel the same way


Me also.

  • 07.08.2008 12:36 AM PDT