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Subject: The Only BR/AR Thread

BR SUCFKS BUILSSLSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

  • 10.07.2009 5:35 PM PDT

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i think the BR is to strong 4 shots an people die but i sometimes 6 shot someone and they kill me whats with the head shot response.

  • 10.07.2009 6:08 PM PDT
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the BR is fine I HATE the AR

  • 10.07.2009 6:09 PM PDT

I am a Metallica fan it rules . live with honor or fall in into darkness . alround im a cool person

tell me whats wrong with the AR

  • 10.07.2009 6:13 PM PDT
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  • 10.07.2009 6:18 PM PDT
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  • 10.07.2009 6:18 PM PDT
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  • 10.07.2009 6:21 PM PDT
Subject: The Only BR Thread

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Posted by: Pk 4 Skillz1
My thoughts:

*The BR was designed with strengths and weaknesses.
*The weaknesses were added in to offset the strengths.
*It takes skill to use the BR like JonnyOThan said.
*The BR is as effective as it was designed to be.
*Bungie DOESNT have to fix the BR because it is the way they want it to be.

So, if you don't like the BR there is one real simple solution.......................Don't Use It



I agree with what you're saying but I think that it should be consistent 100% of the time especially in Swat and MLG where one BR shot can be whether you win or lose.

  • 10.07.2009 6:32 PM PDT
Subject: The Only BR/AR Thread

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Posted by: spawn031
Please just remove the AR from Halo 3.

There is no point with that gun.

It's only there for the casual players that don't have what it takes to wield a BR effectively.

  • 10.07.2009 6:35 PM PDT
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I'm not insane... just a sane person in an insane world.

The BR is for skilled players.

This is a self evident truth guys, anyone who argues is just in denial of their garbage aiming.

  • 10.07.2009 7:37 PM PDT
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exactly the BR is a tool for those of us with the skill to aim correctly, cause if u cant you just end up making an idiot of yourself.

  • 10.07.2009 7:40 PM PDT
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Posted by: Yukimura 91
i think the BR is to strong 4 shots an people die but i sometimes 6 shot someone and they kill me whats with the head shot response.


It could be your not leading your shots, that or your not making headshots, the first 3 can be body shots but at least the 4th must be a headshot. It can also have to do with who hosts the game.

  • 10.07.2009 7:45 PM PDT
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Figured I'd add my two cents to the eternal debate; I'll try my best to remain objective.

A lot of people say the AR takes no skill, after all how hard can it be to keep pressure on the trigger while holding the reticle over the general location of the target's center mass? From my experience, its about as hard as holding an aim assisted weapon on the target's head and pulling the trigger four times.

Neither of these weapons are particularly demanding on the user; it is no great feat to score a kill with either weapon. In a 1v1 scenario the winner in a contest of either weapon usually comes down to reaction time, who lands the first shot, and who takes better advantage of the environment.

That said, in a side by side comparison the BR is by far the superior weapon; the AR is almost exclusively a short ranged weapon, the BR can fulfill any role at the very least passably well, and a single shot from a BR will drop an unshielded opponent.

It is my opinion that the BR's reputation as a "pro" weapon is because of it's efficiency. Someone who is good at the game will use it over the AR because it is the better weapon, surpassing the AR even at short range.

Is the BR overpowered? Hard to say, the answer depends entirely upon the intent of the game's design; if the intention is for the BR to be the workhorse weapon of Halo 3, with the other weapons being intended for situation roles, then in my opinion the BR is where it needs to be. If the intention is for the BR to be on an even level with the rest of the Halo 3 arsenal in any given situation, then I would say the BR needs some work.

That said, I believe that the later scenario is very unlikely. The fact is, not all weapons were created equally. Look at real life armed forces; a semi-automatic rifle like the BR is generally the weapon of choice, with other weapons being used in limited numbers for situational roles, kind of like where the Halo 3 metagame currently stands.

In closing, is the AR a weapon that requires no skill? Objectively I'd say it requires about as much skill to kill someone in a situation to which the AR is suited as it does to four shot someone. If you don't like the AR, the MLG gametype is open to you, and I'm pretty sure that every playlist offers BR starts at least some of the time, some all of the time. Is the BR overpowered? I don't think so, I think it performs about as well as a weapon that is suppossed to be reliable in any situation should.

  • 10.07.2009 8:25 PM PDT
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"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return." - Leonardo da Vinci

tey haz teh skillz to use teh BR lolololol i haz skillz, if u dun use BR u haz no skillz.

Thats what i'm seeing most of the time...

Posted by: CooDaeGras
That said, I believe that the later scenario is very unlikely. The fact is, not all weapons were created equally. Look at real life armed forces; a semi-automatic rifle like the BR is generally the weapon of choice, with other weapons being used in limited numbers for situational roles, kind of like where the Halo 3 metagame currently stands.



Actually no. Firing mode of choice is a single shot selection, more accurate and less recoil. And that is present on all rifles. The M249 and heavy MG's primary purpose is to lay down suppressing fire, thats why they are fully auto. Accuracy is not paramount. Putting the fear of god into the enemy is.

  • 10.07.2009 8:34 PM PDT

I like using both. Obviously I use the BR more, but the AR has its uses as a backup. I like pulling out the AR when my clip runs dry and putting a short burst into my opponent. That has saved me multiple times.

  • 10.07.2009 8:35 PM PDT

Problem I have is this:

To kill one person with the AR, you must empty an entire clip.

For the BR, you can kill three people in just one clip (assuming you never miss). Most people I'm sure can comfortably kill two with how large the clip is.

Given this scenario rules out the possibility of grenades and melee, the argument is still present! Either the clip for the AR is too small, or the BR is too large.

Contrasting this with the BR's closest rival, the Covenant Carbine? The Carbine can kill two people per clip providing you never miss.








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  • 10.07.2009 10:04 PM PDT
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"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return." - Leonardo da Vinci

Can i just ask why no one hates on the Carbine, which drops shields quicker and kills in one shot to the head? Also fires faster depending on how fast you can pull the trigger.

  • 10.07.2009 10:30 PM PDT

Because the Carbine is balanced? Just kidding!

In seriousness, I'd have to say because Carbine has issues at long range. Each shot will sorta wander within the aiming reticle at random and will likely miss the what you're aiming for... anything but dead center!

Inversely, the Battle Rifle's 3-shot spread benefits it at long range since it's easier to get a headshot with a net of bullets versus just one. At least from my experience.

Even if it isn't meant to, you can make the BR work at any range. The other standard guns in the game have some kind of property that keeps you from doing so.


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  • 10.07.2009 10:49 PM PDT
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"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return." - Leonardo da Vinci

Posted by: Badwrong
Because the Carbine is balanced? Just kidding!

In seriousness, I'd have to say because Carbine has issues at long range. Each shot will sorta wander within the aiming reticle at random and will likely miss the what you're aiming for... anything but dead center!

Inversely, the Battle Rifle's 3-shot spread benefits it at long range since it's easier to get a headshot with a net of bullets versus just one. At least from my experience.

Even if it isn't meant to, you can make the BR work at any range. The other standard guns in the game have some kind of property that keeps you from doing so.


Never noticed that. I play SWAT most of the time, Carbine hits on target. One shot one kill.

  • 10.07.2009 11:01 PM PDT

Yeah, back when ODST first launched it felt like a power weapon in the Prepare to Drop playlist.

I don't know what it is, but I can't get it to be as consistent as a Battle Rifle when playing on Sandbox variants. Maybe it's the latency in Social Big Team? Heh, or more likely just me not being used to the weapon since it rarely shows up.






  • 10.07.2009 11:49 PM PDT
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well i dont really care about any complaints about the BR/AR they are both well rounded solid guns and if you cant use them then.....get some skill

  • 10.08.2009 12:49 AM PDT

Eff that, it's all about the M6G. That pistol is P-R-O.

  • 10.08.2009 12:55 AM PDT
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"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return." - Leonardo da Vinci

Posted by: spartan21338
WE LOVE BUNGIE DONT WE? THEY ACCUTALLY MADE HALO FOR US THEY GAVE US NEW UPDATES , THEY GAVE US THE CHANCE TO CHANGE OUR ARMOUR THEY GAVE US NEW WEAPONS. SO SHOULDNT WE SHOW A LITTLE THANKS NOT COMPLAINING JUST BECUASE SOME BR SPREAD. IT DOSENT MEAN ITS ALL BUNGIES FAULT A FEW IDIOTS DIDNT LIKE THE BR AND STARTED DISSING IT. THE BATTLE RIFLE IS THE WAY IT IS IT IS NOT FOR DUMB NOOBS THAT SHOOT WHEREVER THEY LIKE, U NEED SKILL AND ACCUARCY SO IF U DONT LIKE IT TOO BAD LIVE WITH IT OTHER PEOPLE DO LIKE IT SO SUCK IT UP AND STOP NAGGING LIKE GIRLS ABOUT IT


Other way round dumbass, AR is the one receiving hate all the time.

They are weapons, designed to kill. If it kills quickly, you use it. -blam!- skill

  • 10.08.2009 4:50 AM PDT
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Best weapon for shooting in the head (BR).

  • 10.08.2009 6:24 AM PDT