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"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return." - Leonardo da Vinci

Posted by: Shoeman71894
BR has more Versatility, and can be used more effectively in more maps. In Team Swat, it's praticaly your best friend when your on maps, such as Ghost Town and Orbital


Well considering that the AR doesn't feature in Team SWAT.

  • 10.10.2009 9:11 PM PDT
Subject: The Only BR/AR Thread
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Posted by: AR IS4 NUBS
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Why do people want the AR out of halo 3? The BR is better, but one thing the AR dominates are vehicles. On BTB, i use the AR and dual smgs to take out banshees.

So don't say the AR sucks, because it doesn't...


Pics, or it dunz happen n00b!

That's not very fair. He has a good point and I agree with him. Maybe you should get out and use something other than a BR and see how you go, hmm? Then post something like that.
Now, I actually love the BR (t00l 0f d3structi0n), but it is only good for it's job: Mid-range combat. The AR is good on vehicles and CQC battles. Easy as that. Done.
Now let people have their say about their own tactics, and respond at least with a well constructed argument (yours truely), not words like "dunz" or "n00b".

  • 10.11.2009 5:09 AM PDT
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Posted by: ACAce23
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Personally, I find the AR to be a bit underpowered. Perhaps a slight accuracy boost would be good, but otherwise, the balance is fine. The BR is multipurpose, so is the AR, but to a lesser extreme


Accuracy definitely. Unless we want to believe that weapons technology will be worse in the future. Gimme a AUG A3 over an AR, BR, SMG or anything Halo any day



See, I don't like the A3. Too chunky and "slap-on-some-more-add-ons" looking. Aug A1 is beast, though.

  • 10.11.2009 5:16 AM PDT
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Posted by: New Mufasa
I believe very strongly, there should be two separate slayer gametypes. One for the assault rifles, and one for battle rifles.

Why? Because they produce two completely different styles of gameplay. The assault rifle creates variety in gameplay with players primarily throwing granades at long range, then shooting at medium to close range, then finishing by meleeing the enemy. On the other hand, the battle rifle, with it's 2x scope, creates a scenario where players don't need to use grenades at long range. Also, players shields are usually drained before coming within medium range, where the players with full shields will have the upper hand and will no longer need to melee, at least not nearly as much.

Now why these are not separate slayer gametypes, is beyond me, maybe bungie can answer that?!

Am I the only one always hesitant to play the multiplayer because I am forced to play a style of gameplay I do not wish to play in Halo 3?


I know what you mean. My friends and I have been hoping for Slayer and Slayer BRs to be separate playlists. It's too variable to choose Social Slayer, you might get AR, maybe BR. I hate it.

  • 10.11.2009 5:19 AM PDT
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Posted by: Ultinum
Ok. Why are AR users so stubborn and unwilling to improve. When this topic gets mentioned, straight away I hear;

"get used to the AR",
"go play MLG",
"get better with weapons other than the BR",
"I play for fun, the BR is to competitive",
"the AR is a good all-round weapon",
"AR are "newb-friendly",
and more.

"get used to the AR"

No. I got used to the AR within the week I started playing. After I was good enough to understand that the game is played better at range, I stopped using the AR and used the BR. There is a reason why good players don't use the AR, it's a trash weapon.

"go play MLG"

No, I don't want to be forced into a playlist because I don't want to start with an AR. I'm not even a huge fan of MLG. Just because people like the BR, doesn't mean they are a try-hard "MLG wannabe". This is just a lame insult people use, when they have no real argument to a BR vs AR topic.

"get better with weapons other than the BR"

The BR is the most versatile and effective weapon in the game. Combo'd with any other weapon, is perfect. This other weapon could be a shotgun, mauler, sniper, etc. Why would I need to be good with every weapon, when the BR+secondary, is all it takes to be good.

"I play for fun, the BR is to competitive"

Would you say this if MLG didn't exist? The idea of the BR being "competitive" is inspired by the fact that it is the starting weapon in MLG. It was not Bungies intention to put the BR in the game to create competitiveness. The reason MLG uses the BR, is because it is extremely versatile, effective and balanced. The BR is a perfect "counter" weapon. I don't enjoy AR starts, getting spawn trapped, with no way to fight back, because all I have is a short range AR. I would much rather start with a BR, so I could fight back. Just because the AR is easy to use, doesn't mean you need to. I think the above quote should be; " I play for fun, I'm to lazy to learn how to use the BR, the AR is easier, I'll stick with that". If you are good with the BR, BR>AR, in any situation.

"the AR is a good all-round weapon"

The AR is good at close range, when you take your opponent by surprise. If they know you are there, and they have a BR (and they are good), or any other effective weapon, you will be killed. The AR is also effective when combo'd with a melee. That is all. There is no other use for the AR. Why do people actually decide to run around the map, holding their AR. And furthermore, why the F*&% would you switch to your AR on spawn, in a Team BRs variant.

"ARs are newb-friendly"

Yes, newb friendly. Not noob friendly. I think after a short while, people realise that the AR is a good weapon to use while learning the basics of the game, but that is it. Why do I see major grade 3s running around with ARs, they aren't newbs. They are noobs, because they choose to continue using the AR. AR users are not willing to learn to use the BR, why? Because it is too hard?

Do you understand? I believe that the AR is meant as a "basic training" weapon. Not something to rely on after you have played abit. Any player should realise after a few games that the BR is superior. Why do people who use the AR religiously, not realise that it is ineffective, when they get owned by the BR so much. Sure the AR is better than the BR in certain situations. But not enough to use it ALL the time. As I said, there is a reason why people who always use the BR are better than those who use the AR.

Don't say to me, "oh you're a BR fanboy, go to MLG". I'm not a "fanboy", I'm smart. Why don't you AR users give the BR a go. It's ok, I assure you it will improve your game. Sure, riding around in mongooses or doing whatever "noob" stuff you do is fun. But being good at this game is also fun. IMO, it is alot more fun being good than riding mongooses all game, or generally getting raped while running around with an AR. Although, I have had some pretty epic moments with the mongoose. :)



I use the Ar and get 15 + kills a match so dont talk crap


...On what? Guardian? Epitaph? Some other rediculously close-quarters maps that anyone with a brainstem can get 15+ AR kills on? I bet it is in Lone Wolves, where those maps are the only thing that comes up.
That being said, big maps like Sandtrap or Standoff shouldn't be in the game. When I play these maps, I feel like taking the Bungie Map Artists, shaking them by the shoulders and screaming in their faces, "what were you smoking?!?"
Bring on maps like Valhalla, Foundry, Sandbox and Longshore any day.

  • 10.11.2009 5:31 AM PDT
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Yay, 5 posts in a row...
Quoting Spree!

  • 10.11.2009 5:33 AM PDT

Quote-Joy I guess, sorry :(

I feel the BR is too versatile - it makes the majority of the other guns on the map completely useless. How often do you see people with spikers, plasma rifles and SMGs?

Halo 3 has a ton of cool weapons, its just that only 5-6 are useful.

  • 10.11.2009 11:18 AM PDT
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Posted by: Cwagmire
Quote-Joy I guess, sorry :(

I feel the BR is too versatile - it makes the majority of the other guns on the map completely useless. How often do you see people with spikers, plasma rifles and SMGs?

Halo 3 has a ton of cool weapons, its just that only 5-6 are useful.


You just made your own argument obsolete.
Exactly, plenty of cool weapons but only 5-6 are useful for anything.

It's not the BR's fault. It's the fact the other weapons not used are basically just there for Halo nostalgia and not use.
No one with any decent skill would take a Plasma Rifle or SMG over a BR and an AR.

  • 10.11.2009 11:25 AM PDT

Hi, Bungie Forums!


Knight Caboose

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I say that the BR and the AR are balanced...
The spiker beats AR...
and the BR sucks unless your skilled at getting headshots :P

  • 10.11.2009 1:27 PM PDT

Posted by: Ricktrolled

You just made your own argument obsolete.
Exactly, plenty of cool weapons but only 5-6 are useful for anything.

It's not the BR's fault. It's the fact the other weapons not used are basically just there for Halo nostalgia and not use.
No one with any decent skill would take a Plasma Rifle or SMG over a BR and an AR.



It's not that the BR is necessarily too powerful - it's just there are a lot of "nostalgic" weapons that are too underpowered. When there isn't a BR to pick up, give me a reason to pick up the SMG, plasma rifle, etc.

  • 10.11.2009 1:52 PM PDT

br= 4 shot snipe= 1 shot
thats all i need

  • 10.11.2009 3:26 PM PDT

I like Halo games, nuff said.

I can get 15+ AR kills on any map. Sandbox, Sandtrap, Longshore or any other map. I am also good with a BR. Check my service record, ToD is Melee, followed by BR, then AR. Br= 9 rounds to take down shields. AR= 14 rounds. To kill by melee, BR= 6 rounds, AR= 7 rounds. If you can't headshot, BR takes three bursts to kill after no sheilds. AR takes like 5 or something.

  • 10.11.2009 4:13 PM PDT

So far from my few posts on the forums I have gotten 1 HOT post
working on my second

ok

  • 10.11.2009 6:08 PM PDT

at extreme close range the AR is obviously going to be better. I don't see what peopl argue about. The AR is just a close range weapon. The BR isn't. Live with it.

  • 10.11.2009 8:16 PM PDT

everyone.. tell my friendthat he sucks at halo 3...he thinks he is all great because he uses nothing but the sniper and rocket launcher... his gamertag is SINISTERROBERT spam him with messages telling him that "he is trash

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  • 10.11.2009 8:26 PM PDT
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"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return." - Leonardo da Vinci

Posted by: Marksman Fusion
Posted by: ACAce23
Posted by: cedrick123
Personally, I find the AR to be a bit underpowered. Perhaps a slight accuracy boost would be good, but otherwise, the balance is fine. The BR is multipurpose, so is the AR, but to a lesser extreme


Accuracy definitely. Unless we want to believe that weapons technology will be worse in the future. Gimme a AUG A3 over an AR, BR, SMG or anything Halo any day



See, I don't like the A3. Too chunky and "slap-on-some-more-add-ons" looking. Aug A1 is beast, though.


Thats why i like it, much more modular. Basically a bullpup M4, without the crap.

But yeah, A1/A2 series are still cool.

Posted by: Cwagmire
Posted by: Ricktrolled

You just made your own argument obsolete.
Exactly, plenty of cool weapons but only 5-6 are useful for anything.

It's not the BR's fault. It's the fact the other weapons not used are basically just there for Halo nostalgia and not use.
No one with any decent skill would take a Plasma Rifle or SMG over a BR and an AR.



It's not that the BR is necessarily too powerful - it's just there are a lot of "nostalgic" weapons that are too underpowered. When there isn't a BR to pick up, give me a reason to pick up the SMG, plasma rifle, etc.


SMG works better than AR in close quarters. Only problem is limited ammo. You an take out the shields and kill them (if you are a consistent aimer) quicker than you would with an AR, but you can still do the same with the AR.

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  • 10.11.2009 9:48 PM PDT

my br exploded right after someone stuck me dont now why do you

  • 10.11.2009 11:11 PM PDT

Posted by: Marksman Fusion
Posted by: AR IS4 NUBS
Posted by: l Clinch l
Why do people want the AR out of halo 3? The BR is better, but one thing the AR dominates are vehicles. On BTB, i use the AR and dual smgs to take out banshees.

So don't say the AR sucks, because it doesn't...


Pics, or it dunz happen n00b!

That's not very fair. He has a good point and I agree with him. Maybe you should get out and use something other than a BR and see how you go, hmm? Then post something like that.
Now, I actually love the BR (t00l 0f d3structi0n), but it is only good for it's job: Mid-range combat. The AR is good on vehicles and CQC battles. Easy as that. Done.
Now let people have their say about their own tactics, and respond at least with a well constructed argument (yours truely), not words like "dunz" or "n00b".


BR, with playr with skill, can take almost any weapon from almost any range, out.
I prefer BR over AR anytime, because br has more versatility, and its much more efective, unless som1 comes around corner. And even then its easy= i look motion sensor, and ninja him.

  • 10.11.2009 11:26 PM PDT
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"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return." - Leonardo da Vinci

Posted by: halo3kid117
my br exploded right after someone stuck me dont now why do you


Err, because someone stuck you?

Anyone noticed in Landfall the guys BR got shot. I lol'd

  • 10.12.2009 1:05 AM PDT
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The battle rifle's 2x scope, accuracy and precision, makes it unbalanced with the assualt rifle and pick-up power weopons. Thus, causes the multiplayer to lose it's variaty in gameplay and produces the completely different styles of gameplay.

And please, think before replying ignorantly to this message!

Why should we be forced to play a style of gameplay that we don't want too?!

  • 10.12.2009 3:20 AM PDT
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where download halo 2 and 3 ?plis tell me :)


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  • 10.12.2009 7:20 AM PDT
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i think the BR is fine its just LAG!!! i tend to get and i know thats my fault i still ain't bothered about. ITs FINE

  • 10.12.2009 11:43 AM PDT

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I like the BR just the way it is.

I really don't see what's wrong with it.

  • 10.12.2009 1:16 PM PDT