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Subject: The Only BR/AR Thread

Personally, I think that the assault rifle has rapid fire that shoots many bullets at once. The battle rifle, however, shoots three bullets at once that do more damage and are more accurate.

You may disagree with my opinions on the AR and BR, but that is what I believe to be true.

  • 11.14.2009 7:42 PM PDT

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The br has a spread meaning that there is a chance for slightly varied results but this is the same for everyone meaning that even if there is a small chance for you to lose a kill because if it everyone else has the same small chance.

  • 11.14.2009 9:20 PM PDT

*Glances at BR* "Pfft..." *Looks at rocket launcher in awe* "This is gonna be a fair game!"

I just starting playing on LIVE and my BR is ok, but can anyone recommend any game types i could play to improve without going on ranked yet?

  • 11.14.2009 9:24 PM PDT

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i think they should involve a BR in every playlist as primary gun

  • 11.14.2009 10:01 PM PDT
Subject: The Only BR Thread

Ditto

  • 11.15.2009 8:13 AM PDT

why do you want it as a starting weapon??? It's supposed to be a counter-snipe marksman's rifle, not a primary rifle. The primary rifle is supposed to be the AR. It's an assault rifle. The problem with Halo isn't if the BR is broken...it's that by comparison, every other weapon is. We have slow-mo rockets, a sniper that functions excellently when you aren't even looking in the scope, and an AR with as much range as a gun designed by a cub scout. The BR is fine. Every other weapon isn't. I blame the current Halo engine physics.

  • 11.15.2009 11:58 AM PDT

i think there fine the way they are, but a little more ammunition per clip would make things intresting

  • 11.15.2009 5:37 PM PDT

Mada Mada Dane

I agree. More rounds per clip would be much better.

  • 11.15.2009 6:02 PM PDT

BR > AR

  • 11.15.2009 6:57 PM PDT
Subject: The Only BR/AR Thread

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  • 11.15.2009 6:59 PM PDT
Subject: The Only BR Thread

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Yeah I think the BR is fine its one of my fav weapons cause its strong AND it has a cool design. And the assult rifle yeah its Ok but not as good as the BR some of my friends say it looks better than the BR but I think not. The only thing with the BR is some pro-gamers throw a splatter grenade so complicated over 6 corners to make ur shield down and after it they jump and kill u ucant make smth. thats a good system but sometimes very unfair! thats my meaning about the BR and the AR

  • 11.16.2009 9:32 AM PDT

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Posted by: MetricCaboose
BR > AR


I just love it when people do that yet do not actually back up their argument. I personally think the BR is a "crutch" weapon, especially when players will play an entire match only using a BR and nothing else. The game has become boring and repetitive. That is why I have moved on to better games and I am having much more fun now than I have ever had on Halo 3.

  • 11.16.2009 12:42 PM PDT

United Armed Forces

See, the problem is, people focus TOO much on the BR. They consider everything that can out-shoot it and kill them "noobish" because they don't like the fact that it > BR. I'd trade a BR for a rocket any day.

The BR is a great weapon. Even at close range, combined with grenades, it can be extremely deadly. But there ARE weapons that beat it. Period. If the BR was meant to be the "god" weapon, don't you think it would be? No. The AR has its strengths and weaknesses, and the BR has its own share. Think. The AR was scaled down considerably. It actually was the god weapon. Extreme range and damage. Now, the BR is better at range and damage, but for one who knows how to beat it, the AR is much better. *IN SOME CASES*. The problem with the AR is that it doesn't have the headshot factor.

If you added headshots to the AR, it would scale it up considerably. Since it is a bullet-oriented weapon, it should have the same characteristics of the magnum, sniper, BR, etc. Headshots are what make the Human weapons "better". AR lacks that, making it a weaker weapon. The addition of the "headshot" ablility would even things out.

  • 11.16.2009 1:00 PM PDT
Subject: The Only BR/AR Thread

Blame Stosh

BR>AR "Nuff' Said."
This is an overall generalization- There are more cases where the BR beats the Ar, concidering that the AR sometimes wins in Close-range combat. But the Br is deffinately better for taking down mid-long range targets.

[Edited on 11.16.2009 1:04 PM PST]

  • 11.16.2009 1:01 PM PDT
Subject: The Only BR Thread

This arguement is over nothing. The two cannot be compared because they are both efficient in certain situations. AR for close combat and BR for medium combat. They are both fine weapons in their own right so could everyone stop aruging over nothing?

  • 11.16.2009 1:41 PM PDT
Subject: The Only BR/AR Thread

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I was totally expecting a joke out of that.

Posted by: Darkjigglypuff
The AR is NOT always a mutual beatdown.

Judging by the fact that you think everyone charges headlong into enemies with the AR, I'd say that you have jack-all of an idea of how an AR is actually used.

NOONE with a shred of tactical fore-thought is going to mindlessly rush guns blazing because that's not what the AR is for. If you do have any sort of brain, you'll realize the AR is a CQC weapon, not a goddamn Sniper Rifle.

You people seem to think that every body with the AR charges in a straight line:

http://forums.blenderunderground.com/images/misc/straightline .jpg

While a REAL AR user would move in a zig-zagging fashion.
To, you know, not get hit so damn much.



lrn2assaultrifle

  • 11.16.2009 3:41 PM PDT

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Posted by: Darkjigglypuff
Posted by: Darkjigglypuff
The AR is NOT always a mutual beatdown.

Judging by the fact that you think everyone charges headlong into enemies with the AR, I'd say that you have jack-all of an idea of how an AR is actually used.

NOONE with a shred of tactical fore-thought is going to mindlessly rush guns blazing because that's not what the AR is for. If you do have any sort of brain, you'll realize the AR is a CQC weapon, not a goddamn Sniper Rifle.

You people seem to think that every body with the AR charges in a straight line:

http://forums.blenderunderground.com/images/misc/straightline .jpg

While a REAL AR user would move in a zig-zagging fashion.
To, you know, not get hit so damn much.



lrn2assaultrifle


Show me gameplay where the AR works better, where people "AR strafe" ( which is just laughable honestly) where people use "burst fire" succesfully, which makes no difference.

The AR is not a good primary weapon for the maps Bungie designed for Halo 3. It promotes dumb monotonous gameplay. It just doesn't work. The BR is much more well rounded, promotes teamwork and smarter gameplay.

Look at the range of the AR. Look at the range of the motion sensor. Thats where gameplay, according to bungie, is suppose to take place. Maps are too big.

I'm not saying remove AR, a lot of people prefer it, hell i find myself using it in lonewolves, it just does not work as a primary spawn weapon, particularly in FFA and objective games. The AR/BR combo in that sense is perfect. They are both niche weapons and are not independently exclusive meaning that even though they both work in all situations they just not super well. They need each other.

  • 11.17.2009 6:04 AM PDT
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The BR is the perfect weapon, long range, high power, accurate, easy to use, and well adaptable. There is nothing wrong with it. People have been saying that it needs more rounds per clip. It doesn't need more rounds per clip, people just need to know how to strategically use each round in their clip, and know how to use their secondary weapon in quick succession of their BR. A BR should only take 3 rounds (9 bullets) to get a kill with shields.

And the AR, though not as efficient as the BR, is still a very useful weapon. it can be compared to the shotgun in the fact that it is very useful in close quarters. It is more of a close/medium weapon. The only reason why people might not like it is if they are in larger open areas. Which do consist mostly of Halo 3's maps. In a tight area, it is very very useful.

[Edited on 11.17.2009 5:13 PM PST]

  • 11.17.2009 4:59 PM PDT
Subject: The Only BR Thread

C-Train

The Br is much more powerful than the Ar if u use it correctly and go for headshots. the ar is better for new, less experienced players b/c it is usually tough for them to get headshots. I like the br the way it is

  • 11.17.2009 5:19 PM PDT

BR = Best halo gun ever. (There may be an exception for the CE pistol)

Bungie, do not get rid of the BR or Halo will fall apart.

  • 11.18.2009 10:44 PM PDT

The BR spread is awful! The game of Halo 3 takes no individual skill at all. The online aspect is horrible. Halo 1 was the greatest 1st person shooter of all time and to have the name Halo in this game, it's a disgrace. I don't understand what the people at bungie were thinking when they created Halo 3. They downgraded the game in skill to appeal to the kids that have none. Play CoD MW2, then hop on halo and watch how laggy the game is naturally. Even on LAN settings this game is way too inconsistent. Please bungie change the BR to a single bullet gun or change it so there is no random bullet spread. Random Bullet spread = NO SKILL! Halo CE> Halo 2> Halo 3 Beta> CoD MW2> Halo 3. If Halo Reach is gonna be like Halo 3 let me know now so i can save some cash. I suggest bungie makes a new halo for the competitive gamers.

  • 11.19.2009 9:34 AM PDT

I dont know why everybody is complaining about the br. Its fine the way it is.com It has it's own strenghs and weaknesses. As well as a bit of skill as well. Just stop moaning about it.

  • 11.19.2009 11:12 AM PDT

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The AR sucks.

  • 11.19.2009 3:19 PM PDT
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  • 11.19.2009 4:04 PM PDT
Subject: The Only BR/AR Thread

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Posted by: CheckTheMail
BR>AR "Nuff' Said."
This is an overall generalization- There are more cases where the BR beats the Ar, concidering that the AR sometimes wins in Close-range combat. But the Br is deffinately better for taking down mid-long range targets.


I actually disagree with that generalization. I have(on Halo 3) won in a mid-range fight using an AR against a friend's BR. And yes he is a better player than me. I am just that comfortable with the AR, unlike 99% of all Halo players who think the AR is some kind of joke gun.

If people would give guns other than their beloved BR(introduced in the least fun Halo game BTW) a chance they might realize that the weapon isn't a god weapon and they can win without it if the need should arise.

I only use underused weapons like the AR and Brute Shot and I do just fine, even taking out Snipers when I need to.

  • 11.19.2009 10:27 PM PDT