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Subject: The Only BR Thread
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well the pros ive so far i met havent complained by thats there thing. but if your right, yeah i made a mistake. but rly,it rly isnt that hard to adapt to the br. its so much easier than halo2s br that i think. or that might juss b cuz it was easy to out br on claw in h2 lol

  • 07.08.2008 11:17 PM PDT
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Halo 2's BR was better by far not because it could shoot across the map, it was because it was dependable. We don't want a BR that can 4 shot across the map. We want a BR that is consistent and doesn't have this spread nonsense that brings way to much of a luck factor. And to all you idiots who say it is realistic[the spread]..I think we threw that out the door when we made a 1000lb suit of armor that can jump constantly, needlers, spartan lasers, brute spikers, etc...

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  • 07.08.2008 11:27 PM PDT
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Well the spread,it was too easy in H2 from my pov in halo3 it took me more time to get used to it. and leading shots,that was realistic. i mean really. in H2 all you had to do was aim&shoot. here you need more skill. i think thats why some of halo2s 30+ are rly bad at H3.
Posted by: TheFaze
And to all you idiots who say it is realistic[the spread]..I think we threw that out the door when we made a 1000lb suit of armor that can jump constantly, needlers, spartan lasers, brute spikers, etc...

i thought MC was a cyborg super soilder in the FUTURE where its supposedly realistic to his kind in the spartan II program? but idk. maybe some things you said are correct. but if they did change it they need to make it so its not a look&shoot&instant hit..or we can all juss go play LAN

  • 07.08.2008 11:34 PM PDT
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Did I ever say take out leading? Yeah take it out at like 10 yards..you shouldn't have to lead there. But if you want to bring up the point about it being in the future and keeping up the times..well...here goes...If it is 400 years in the future, don't you think that they would have a gun that could eliminate spread? Come on...
Note that this isn't an attack directed at you...just your comments.

  • 07.08.2008 11:49 PM PDT

take no survivors

The BR is awesome I -just started using it 1 month ago I used to be a AR/Melee I got really good at BR and my k/d went up with more kills for me I'm know a AR/BR person I find nothing wrong with the BR.

  • 07.08.2008 11:51 PM PDT
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Faze ill have to admite you have found good flaws,especially with the whole future thing,you got me there ;) haha. thats true. to agree with faze (YES HOLY COW IM AGREEING WITH HIM jk breh) thats true i mean rly why do i sometimes have to lead shots at a really close range
EXAMPLE: top middle of guardian 2 ppl at each end i still have to lead a little. i mean rly. thats kind of odd. but if they did lower the spread,go ahead. but i dont want it lowered as much as H2s spread. but maybe close idk.

  • 07.08.2008 11:56 PM PDT
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Finally, someone realizes how retarded this argument is!! <3

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Ahaha faze. funny. well i think me&faze said the flaws of the br& yes bungie maybe you should tweak it a little. but not so much it reverts to H2. reduce the br spread by a little not a lot. as long as its not as tight as H2s. id like to keep up to maintain my same style of br if you guys did change it.

  • 07.09.2008 12:02 AM PDT
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And to clarify this; MLG is only asking for Bungie to throw them a bone..not the whole dog house. Compared to what Bungie has given the Bungie.net forum community, Bungie has given nothing to MLG. In fact the only thing I can think of is Forge and Foundry so we don't have to play their god-awful maps[yes, that is a hyperbole]. All MLG wanted,for example, at MINIMUM was an ACCURATE remake of lockout, but Bungie even ruined that by making it overtexted and eliminating key set up positions. Even though I know my argument will never get through the ignorance that is Bungie, it is fun seeing these people with horrible arguments crumble under my walls of text.

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  • 07.09.2008 12:06 AM PDT
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Posted by: TheFaze
And to clarify this; MLG is only asking for Bungie to throw them a bone..not the whole dog house. Compared to what Bungie has given the Bungie.net forum community, Bungie has given nothing to MLG. In fact the only thing I can think of is Forge and Foundry so we don't have to play their god-awful maps[yes, that is a hyperbole]. All MLG wanted,for example, at MINIMUM was an ACCURATE remake of lockout, but Bungie even ruined that by making it overtexted and eliminating key set up positions. Even though I know my argument will never get through the ignorance that is Bungie, it is fun seeing these people with horrible arguments crumble under my walls of text.

Enough said Faze...enough said.

  • 07.09.2008 12:10 AM PDT
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Posted by: AtomicPurity
Posted by: TheFaze
And to clarify this; MLG is only asking for Bungie to throw them a bone..not the whole dog house. Compared to what Bungie has given the Bungie.net forum community, Bungie has given nothing to MLG. In fact the only thing I can think of is Forge and Foundry so we don't have to play their god-awful maps[yes, that is a hyperbole]. All MLG wanted,for example, at MINIMUM was an ACCURATE remake of lockout, but Bungie even ruined that by making it overtexted and eliminating key set up positions. Even though I know my argument will never get through the ignorance that is Bungie, it is fun seeing these people with horrible arguments crumble under my walls of text.

Enough said Faze...enough said.

LoL, what can I say, I am passionate.

  • 07.09.2008 12:12 AM PDT
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Hey Bungie i have an idea why not grab regular h2 lockout and convert it to a h3 map file and delete h3s blackout and insert it with lockout with no editing done to the map! maybe then you will MLG happy. b cuz all you do is have ppl with SUPER AWESOME INTERNET br like its no prob. and after a few mins of shooting on guardian i realzied wow big spread. lol. i mean rly bungie. blackout is bad you cant setup in library correctly anymore without that window. anyways the br i do indeed think its need change.

  • 07.09.2008 12:17 AM PDT
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I have converted one man over to the light side. REJOICE!

  • 07.09.2008 12:18 AM PDT
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Ahahaha,faze. but i think we should stop talkin on this thread,were not saying BR related things anymore lol. alright. peace out ppl everyone start arguing agn then you can wait for me & faze to reply =)

  • 07.09.2008 12:24 AM PDT

Halo: CE > > Halo 3 > Halo: Reach = Halo 2

Posted by: TheFaze
And to clarify this; MLG is only asking for Bungie to throw them a bone..not the whole dog house. Compared to what Bungie has given the Bungie.net forum community, Bungie has given nothing to MLG. In fact the only thing I can think of is Forge and Foundry so we don't have to play their god-awful maps[yes, that is a hyperbole]. All MLG wanted,for example, at MINIMUM was an ACCURATE remake of lockout, but Bungie even ruined that by making it overtexted and eliminating key set up positions. Even though I know my argument will never get through the ignorance that is Bungie, it is fun seeing these people with horrible arguments crumble under my walls of text.


I love the BR in Halo 3, why? Because it is the best, most accurate, skillful weapon in Halo 3 (sniper excluded). It is the primary weapon that i use. Just as the Pistol in Halo 1 was, and the BR in Halo 2 was...

But does that mean i'm content with the Halo 3 BR? No. The inconsistency in the spread is frustrating. And imo, it would be better if there was no spread at all, but instead making a small variance in how all 3 bullets in one burst vary compared to the next burst (i.e., making it like the one bullet in the Halo 1 pistol, of which bullets has some degree of variance).

Now about the comment that Bungie hasn't given anything to the MLG, competitive community. I disagree...

Bungie has given use forge, which is a huge plus in customizing the game to how we like to play. More individual weapon customization would have been nice, but what they did give was very good.

They reworked the Melee system. And while having both people die frequently during a melee confrontation isn't the best, it is definitely better then the way it was before the AU update patch.

They have also thus far given use 3 new competitive maps: Foundry, Blackout and Cold Storage. And while some might disagree on their faithfulness of remaking these maps, Bungie still had good intent to give back to the competitive community. And in all fairness, they are not that bad.

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  • 07.09.2008 12:31 AM PDT
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Now about the comment that Bungie hasn't given anything to the MLG, competitive community. I disagree...

Bungie has given use forge, which is a huge plus in customizing the game to how we like to play. More individual weapon customization would have been nice, but what they did give was very good.

They have also thus far given use two competitive maps back: Blackout and Cold Storage. And while some might disagree on their faithfulness of remaking these maps, Bungie still had good intent to give back to the competitive community. And in all fairness, they are not that bad.

To correct you if you look through one of fazes other post it indeed does say they have given us forge and foundry. and blackout 6/8 ppl in a around 90% of the mlg customs i play usually evry other day say blackout is weak. no more ledge jumping and no library window which frustrated a lot of ppl. plus the top jumps down to bottom are hella close. with a lot more easy movement,i like how it was more spread apart and you were in danger of dying. cold storage is good but tell me that when they make an MLG variant to it.

  • 07.09.2008 12:36 AM PDT
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Posted by: MadroKurgan
Posted by: TheFaze
And to clarify this; MLG is only asking for Bungie to throw them a bone..not the whole dog house. Compared to what Bungie has given the Bungie.net forum community, Bungie has given nothing to MLG. In fact the only thing I can think of is Forge and Foundry so we don't have to play their god-awful maps[yes, that is a hyperbole]. All MLG wanted,for example, at MINIMUM was an ACCURATE remake of lockout, but Bungie even ruined that by making it overtexted and eliminating key set up positions. Even though I know my argument will never get through the ignorance that is Bungie, it is fun seeing these people with horrible arguments crumble under my walls of text.


I love the BR in Halo 3, why? Because it is the best, most accurate, skillful weapon in Halo 3 (sniper excluded). It is the primary weapon that i use. Just as the Pistol in Halo 1 was, and the BR in Halo 2 was...

But does that mean i'm content with the Halo 3 BR? No. The inconsistency in the spread is frustrating. And imo, it would be better if there was no spread at all, but instead making a small variance in how all 3 bullets in on burst vary compared to the next burst (i.e., making it like the one bullet in the Halo 1 pistol, of which bullets has some degree of variance).

Now about the comment that Bungie hasn't given anything to the MLG, competitive community. I disagree...

Bungie has given use forge, which is a huge plus in customizing the game to how we like to play. More individual weapon customization would have been nice, but what they did give was very good.

They have also thus far given use two competitive maps back: Blackout and Cold Storage. And while some might disagree on their faithfulness of remaking these maps, Bungie still had good intent to give back to the competitive community. And in all fairness, they are not that bad.

To be completely honest, when I was creating that thread I initially put the part about Forge in there, but took it out after reading over it. And as for Blackout being a competitive map...It is ok, but it is not what we wanted. But to the part about Cold Storage, I can't say anything about it because I have not played it, and quite frankly don't even care to. But honestly, how does2-3 things given to MLG, no, not even MLG, the whole COMMUNITY, compare to what Bungie has given to their Bungie.net community. Think about it. Forge is a great tool for MLG players to get away from Bungies horrible map designs, but even then MLG hasn't got what they wanted.[I could go on forever about that detail.] And Blackout and Cold Storage? Come on..everyone wanted those remakes, and even though Bungie said they had the competative community at mind, they completely ruined it for us.
All in all though I can see your point, and as i am reading over this I can see that I got really off the topic of BR. So to jump back on-board..fix the BR!
edit: I guess I did post the bit about forge..thanks Atomic

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  • 07.09.2008 12:41 AM PDT
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I have one last thing to say before i get outta this for the day and return to my normal life as a kid.

If Bungie wishes to fix the BR,i pray they do it the way a lot of ppl want like i do,but if they dont want to thats their choice. No matter how much we argue,its all in the hands of bungie if they decide to tweak the br or leave it be. there maybe flaws in the br,but they are good sides to some flaws,cuz hey you never knoe when you will go "holy moly! i got that overkill kill ez! thanks super br spread!"

  • 07.09.2008 12:48 AM PDT

Halo: CE > > Halo 3 > Halo: Reach = Halo 2

But i'd rather die or get the kill by my own skill and efforts, rather then it happening due to chance or the games fault. Less frustrating and more rewarding.

Plus the chances of random bullets hindering you rather then helping you is far greater.

And the whole idea that a random BR spray is beneficial in SWAT is ridiculous. Even if the 3 bursts from the BR were all perfectly accurate, you could still swipe spray a group of opponents in SWAT and get 3 kills with one BR burst. Effectively making it easier (for those that can aim) to get 3 kills with one burst, as opposed to having a random BR bullet spray.

[Edited on 07.09.2008 3:17 AM PDT]

  • 07.09.2008 12:53 AM PDT

Mt. Dew

Ok, I know this is a "BR" thread, but the "AR" is the worst weapon ever made, it's a short-mid ranged weapon that holds about 60 rounds. Where the BR is a Short-Long ranged weapon that has increaced aiming. Even if it's not fully automatic it allows you to save bullets with "short controlled burst", says a soldier on crows nest the second campain level. But the AR allows the use of bunoculars to see how far the enemy is (hopefully 50 meters) But the BR is a shock weapons. because all you fell is burst about burst, and when you turn around... HEAD SHOT -o{ BLAM!!!! OWNAGE ...but with the AR it's contast and easy to kill with the short clip and large random firing.

  • 07.09.2008 3:39 AM PDT
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All i can say is that the Br on H3, in customs and the MLG playlist is almost the same as H2. You all jus goin to have to get used to it, its not as bad as most make it out, yeh it can be annoyin but its better than because you can actually out Br someone if ure a shot or two down, this requires skill people !!

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  • 07.09.2008 4:00 AM PDT

Halo: CE > > Halo 3 > Halo: Reach = Halo 2

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All i can say is that the Br on H3, in customs and the MLG playlist is almost the same as H2. You all jus goin to have to get used to it, its not as bad as most make it out, yeh it can be annoyin but its better than because you can actually out Br someone if ure a shot or two down, this requires skill people !!

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You don't make any sense.

Same as Halo 2 BR?

You can out BR someone if your a shot or two down, thereby it requiring skills?

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  • 07.09.2008 4:12 AM PDT
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Posted by: TheFaze
And to clarify this; MLG is only asking for Bungie to throw them a bone..not the whole dog house. Compared to what Bungie has given the Bungie.net forum community, Bungie has given nothing to MLG. In fact the only thing I can think of is Forge and Foundry so we don't have to play their god-awful maps[yes, that is a hyperbole]. All MLG wanted,for example, at MINIMUM was an ACCURATE remake of lockout, but Bungie even ruined that by making it overtexted and eliminating key set up positions. Even though I know my argument will never get through the ignorance that is Bungie, it is fun seeing these people with horrible arguments crumble under my walls of text.


Dude, i'm coming over to your side also.

But Bungie is probably not going to fix the BR, it's fine in their vision. They dumbed down the game to the masses, they just want money.. Atleast, they should tighten it to the most it can go to is .25 of a degree. I just find it odd, me BR'ing A LOT, when my aiming is immaculate, I lead and everything, and only seeing my first bullet hitting, and the other guy getting lucky and having his bullets hit me. I want to get better at BR'ing(I'm pretty good, I want to become better) but there's nothing I can do when I get out BR'ed because somebody had a better, luckier spread than me.

  • 07.09.2008 5:39 AM PDT
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the BR kinda looks like a g36k with a bit of custimization, or an SL-8

  • 07.09.2008 6:47 AM PDT
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if you like the ar then... well... your dumb.

  • 07.09.2008 7:15 AM PDT